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11-09-2012, 09:15 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bethalto, IL USA
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| Need to brush Peyton's teeth...HELP!!! You know, back in 2009, after my baby girl Yorkie Duchess, and my baby boy Maltese, Frosty cost me around $700 to get their teeth cleaned, I made the commitment to keep their clean. That was in 2009, March for Duchess, and September for Frosty. Of course, since then I've lost Duchess on July 6th to massive kidney disease. But, I was able to fairly easily, get both Duchess and Frosty to allow me to brush their teeth. I brushed Duchess' teeth until she passed away, ever since the 2009 cleaning, and I still brush Frosty's teeth virtually daily, since that last pro cleaning in Sept 2009. When I take (or in Duchess's case, took) them for their annual appts at the vet, I'd usually get kudos from the vet or vet and technician about how great their teeth looked. I started out with a finger toothbrush, back in 2009, with Petrodex Poultry toothpaste. After wearing that out, and having problems finding more finger tooth brushes (and they always much preferred the kind with the regualr bristles, not rubber bristles), I graduated them to using a nice soft human toothbrush, and quite frankly, it has worked great. So, that leads me to my current topic: As many of you know, who regularly read this board, after missing Duchess soooooo bad for a few weeks, I got lucky and was able to purchase/adopt a 3 year old "show quality" Yorkie from N.. Indiana. He's a fantastic little dog, and in just 3 months as become very devoted to me and we're best buddies. But......the one thing I've not been able to accomplish is for him to allow me to brush his teeth. And, he has all of his beautiful little white teeth, and I really don't want him to go through what Duchess went through, losing probably 75% of her teeth, before I began to brush them, and Frosty probably has lost a third or so of his teeth, before I began to daily brush his in 2009. But, both were great with it, since I got them trained to do it, and started in 2009. In fact, they would wait in line for their turn to get their teeth brushed...I think mostly because they really liked the taste of the Petrodex toothpaste. But, my new little 3 year old...I have tried everything I can think of. And, even though he loves me, and trusts me, he will not let me brush his teeth. He pushes my hand away with his front paws. He'll allow me to put some Petrodex on my index finger and "finger" brush his teeth, without any type of brush. But, though I was happy to do that at first, just to get him used to having my finger in his mouth, we've never been able to make any more progress than that. And, I mean, I have tried everything...finger brushes..several sizes, soft baby tooth brushes or kid's tooth brushes. I have one kid's tooth brush that I got which is just the right size and would do a great job - if, he'd just allow me to. My final try was to buy several boxes of plastic gloves, that have a little "brush area" on the index finger and thumb, and to try those. I thought they might work, since he allows me to put my finger in his mouth, with the toothpaste on it. But, not luck...he pushes that away too, and we both just generally get stressed out trying. I really, really want to brush his teeth daily, and give him the opportunity to keep all of his beautiful little teeth, and have no gum disease or dental disease. His teeth are still in pretty doggone good shape, and if we could get started soon, I think we can keep him from losing any at all, and the pain of any decay, etc. But, I just can't get him to allow anything I've tried. Now, he lets me clean his eyes with a small soft toothbrush, and allows me to flush his ears. But, it is just no go with the tooth brushing. Can anyone out there help me, and give me any further ideas on how to get Peyton to allow me to brush his teeth? If he never will allow it, was is the next best way to keep his teeth clean. Do dental stix work? I really need help. After getting both Duchess and Frosty trained to allow me to brush their teeth (and Frosty is pretty hard headed), and I really did not think I would have any problem training him to allow me to brush his teeth. Please...help me save the $300 vet bills from having his teeth cleaned, not to mention, I don't want him to go through the inevitable toothaches and pain, from not keeping his teeth totally clean. I mean, I'm thinking even if we can do it every other day, that still would be great and would keep them very clean. So, does anyone have any good ideas on how to get this little guy to quit pushing the toothbrush..finger brush or otherwise, or even plastic glove, out of his mouth!!! Thanks so much. I want him to keep all of his pearly whites, and I'm certainly willing to put in the work to keep them clean!! |
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11-09-2012, 11:22 AM | #2 |
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| There are just some dog's that no matter how hard you try, you may not be able to brush their teeth at all. Even with brushing their teeth a Dental would still be recommended at times as there is no way to get up under the gum and get that plaque out. That is what causes the problems. Also, some Yorkies are just more prone to dental issues due to genetics. Just as with people, even though I brush and floss at least 3-4 times a day, I still need the professional cleaning to get up under the gum.
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11-09-2012, 03:36 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bethalto, IL USA
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| Me too... Yeah, me too. I have to have my teeth cleaned every 6 months, no matter what i do to take care of them. It's just genetics. 4 months would even be better, if I wasn't such a cheapskate. Actually, his teeth look very good, and he has very good breeding. So, hopefully his teeth will do well, even if I can't brush them...with professional cleanings every couple of years. I don't know if you all are fans of greenies, but I thought I'd try giving him a greenie teenie lite every day after supper, and see if that'll kind of help too. I'll keep plugging away at the brushing. Who knows, with enough diligence, maybe I'll get him used to it?? Thanks for your insight. |
11-09-2012, 04:28 PM | #4 |
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| Just be very careful with the Greenies, they have been known to cause obstructions in the tummy.
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11-10-2012, 09:07 AM | #5 |
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| Columbo hates it, but he stopped fighting so much over time since he knows its happening whether he likes it or not. I make him lay in his bed when I brush his teeth. I tried my lap and the bathroom counter, but it was too difficult and I thought he would fall and/or get away. Laying down in the bed, he is comfortable and less squirmy. I just pull out the lip on the side of the mouth I'm working and stick the brush in. When I've done the outside of the teeth, I force my finger in his mouth to open his clenched teeth, and brush the inside. On a side note, my golden retriever, who has now passed, used to lay on his back on the couch. I'd sit on the end seat of the couch with his head in my lap. Not only did I brush him, but I would scrape any plaque off his teeth!!! He never had to have his teeth professionally cleaned. Don't you and I wish a yorkie would do that! |
11-10-2012, 10:11 AM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bethalto, IL USA
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| Thank you... Thank you very much for your advice...I'm just going to keep at it. It works so well with my Maltese - after 3 years his teeth look as good as the last time they were pro cleaned. Wouldn't you know I'd get a product that could be dangerous?? They liked them quite a bit...I gave them two them for the first time last night after supper. But I don't want something that could lodge in their intestines or esophagus. I read up on them after you said that. What do you all think of Pedigree's Dentastix. I'm just a little skittish about those because they gave my little Duchess diarhea (sp?)....major diarhea. Thought Frosty was fine with them. Do you all think they are safe (the Dentastix)? Thanks again! |
11-14-2012, 12:48 AM | #7 |
♡Huey's Human♡ Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ringgold, Ga
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| I have found that if I provide Huey with a toothbrush with the enzymatic paste on it, he will chew on it all day. I buy the hard, cheap human brushes that are $.99 at the drug store. They last longer. He goes through 1 every week or 2. The vet was pleased with his oral care. This solution was great for both of us & was discovered completely by accident when I dropped a toothbrush. He will even bring his toothbrush to the bathroom so I will put the paste on it! Huey the silkshire terrier brushes his own teeth - YouTube |
11-14-2012, 07:53 AM | #8 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2012 Location: Somewhere, Ohio
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| My Runa loves her toothbrush when I'm not brushing her teeth. I just give to her with or without tooth paste and she'll chew it for hours. I work as a groomer so I always have tooth brushes when she wears away the old one. Another thing I discovered was Elk Antlers. Runa had a little bit of tartar on her teeth and I gave her the antler and you could tell after she had finished playing with it her teeth looked much nicer. |
11-14-2012, 08:48 AM | #9 |
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| My dog Teddy was running from the toothbrush. I finally figured out that he hated toothpaste. I use a little extra virgin oconut oil on the brush now and he lets me brush. I also use Healthy Mouth water additive
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11-18-2012, 11:42 AM | #10 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Nevada, Texas, USA
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| A month ago I adopted a little 7 years olds Yorkie from a Shelter. She did not have a teeth cleaning because she has a respiratory problem. So, she will not be able to survive from anesthesia. My concern is that her teeth get a lot of tartar. Wondering if there is any other alternative process to remove it from her teeth ….. I tried to brush her teeth, but obviously she is not cooperating. I'll provide Samantha with a toothbrush with the enzymatic paste to see what happen.... Does anyone have any other idea on how to remove the thartar from her teeth? |
11-18-2012, 08:29 PM | #11 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DEXTER, MO USA
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| I have used as Seen on TV Dr. George's Plaque Blast(TM) Dog and Cat Oral Spray. It takes the bad breath away almost immediately. In about a week I can tell the difference in their teeth. I have bought it from Dollar General, Walgreens, and on line. I am out right now but picking some up tomorrow. |
11-19-2012, 04:52 PM | #12 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bethalto, IL USA
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| Thank you all for all your replies. I just had Peyton in for his annual check- up the other day, and I had one of the 3 vets there that I really like, and she really tells it like it is. She said Peyton should have his teeth professionally cleaned in about 6 months..or at least we should assess it in 6 months. I just want soooooo bad for him not to lose any teeth, and I know that if he would just let me brush them like my other dogs do or have done, it wouldn't be a problem. Thank you so much again for your replies...especially for the one where the terrier brushes his own teeth. That is really worth a try. Those are the toothbrushes I generally use on them - the kind you get two for $1.97 at Wal-mart. I will try that and see how well it works. Gosh, I want him to keep his teeth...plus I don't want him to suffer toothaches, bleeding gums, etc. I'll give it a try..I already know he likes the enzymatic toothpaste. My problem is, I have two dogs..so usually whatever I do for one, I have to duplicate it for the other - even though the other dog lets me brush his teeth fine, he may have to have one to chew on too. But, if it works, that's ok. I'll let you know how it goes! |
11-19-2012, 05:16 PM | #13 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey
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| I use a battery operated toothbrush that I get at Dollar Tree for $1.00. or try any other Dollar Store. It beats paying $20.00 at a pet store for that type of brush. Just be sure to use dog only toothpaste on the brush. I agree I would not give my dog any greenies or chewing items. Yorkies are so little that they could get lodged in their throat or trachea and my Vet Agrees. Good Luck! |
11-22-2012, 09:51 AM | #14 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Nevada, Texas, USA
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| Thanks so much for such of great ideas: providing with a toothbrush, the coconutoil, Dr. George's Plaque Blast, perusing inbrushing, a battery toothbrush, etc. I provided Samantha with a toothbrush: It works great with a Foaming Tartarremover or Dr. George's Plaque Blast. Thetartar is steel there; however, her gums look better. I'm brushing her teeth twice a day: She is not happy with this but now she allowsme to do it (only for few seconds!). Eventually I'll use a battery toothbrush Sushy (Husky - 14 years old) and Antoinette(Yorkie 4 years old) they never had to have their teeth professionally cleaned.I was brushing their teeth 2 to 6 days/week. thanks |
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