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More boosters?? Took Oliver to the Vet today for what i was told was his last in the series of shots. I asked again about neutering and asked if he had any teeth that needed to be pulled. She said only if there were doubles. She said his teeth looked good, canine babies still in, she wants to wait til they're out before she gives the all clear to go out and about with him. One more series of boosters before we can hit the dog park. I asked if in a month his teeth are still not out then what..are we doing more boosters? What if we had them pulled and neutered would we still need to do another set of shots. She assured me in the next few weeks they'd be ready to be out...She also said Parvo is running rambant in Tucson and with the monsoon rains its spreading things around, better safe than sorry. Has this happened to anyone else? She already discounted a series of shots the breeder gave him so we did an extra one...now another?? |
I'm a little confused...does he need his last serious of vaccines? Why is she waiting until he may need teeth pulled. (not sure if I'm reading this right...sorry!) |
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I asked well what if he was neutered next week and they were pulled would he need to come back in a month. What if they're not out in a month do we get that shot and wait another month and do another shot. Gal at desk said no, by 6mo his baby teeth should be out or ready. She told me Tucson was heavy with parvo they're seeing it more this time of year. Said with his baby teeth in so strong and him looking young?! He is 5lbs 5 oz at 5 months. Maybe I'm just frustrated. |
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Yeah I don't get it either. He's had his rabies, he got one shot from breeder that I witnessed, she even put lables on his shot record. He's had 3 from Vet. I was told this was his last one. Now they want to see him in a month for another. |
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Yes, I've only lived in Tucson a year, took Roxy in for shots because it was close to house and then when she passed because they were open. 24 hour Animal Hospital. I just don't understand why he needs so many. Are they discrediting all the shots from the breeder? I witnessed one. I'm going to call around other places. They also wanted 380 for neutering, thats with no blood work, no teeth done....folks at work said that was steep. When I asked if they wanted to check blood for liver shunt, they said that'd be another 120. |
I'm really confused too. Typical schedule is getting shots around (approx) 8 weeks, 12 weeks, and 16 weeks old. Of course it varies a bit depending on when exactly you got your dog, what the breeder may have already given, etc. But either way -- sounds like way too much. Take a look at Dr. Dodd's vaccine protocol, or the AAHA protocol. |
Just reading an local article, parvo in Tucson, is says 3 shots. He's had 4 and they want one more. "According to Valley Animal Hospital, vaccines are usually given to puppies when they are 8, 12, and 16 weeks old with a recommended booster shot annually after the initial three." He had one at the breeder at 8 weeks, Vet has done 3 one at 16, 20 and now 25 weeks. and saying he needs another.... Why does his weight and teeth play into this and are there adverse effects from too many vaccinations? |
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http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-not-give.html There is a good thread with lots of info. |
I agree with Brister. I do NOT vaccinate my dogs every year. I used to have titers done, which arent cheap!. One of my dogs levels for distemper was so high she didn't need another shot for 3 yrs!! So I made a decision, along with my vet, that the furkids would only get booster every 3 =4 yrs. We aren't vaccinated every year...why should our dogs be! Unfortunately Rabies vacs are mandated by the state or I would push those out too! As for the neutering. I just had Bentley done about 4 weeks ago. the total cost(no blood work done, had that done previously for another issue) and having 1 baby tooth pulled was 373.00...And my vet is on the expensive side. Sounds to me like your vet is looking to make some money off you...I know you said you haven't lived there long but do you know someone with pets that you could ask where they bring theirs? If not...I would call around and ditch the vet you have now. MO |
All baby teeth being out has nothing to dowith vaccines. Some retain teeth or a year and I'd hope they wouldn't plan on doing it monthly that whole time. While there are different opinions, it is acceptable to discredit breeder given vaccies. Older than sixteen weeks and usually just two sets are given. Starting younger and it really does have to do with spacing. |
I believe the teeth pulling and Neutering is what was meant to be together. just a mis understanding?? When the puppy put asleep they can do both. They usually put them under for teeth pulling. Pretty common to do this together. That what I get from it??? |
"She already discounted a series of shots the breeder gave him so we did an extra one...now another??" Also if the breeder give the shot and has a sticker that comes with it to put on his chart or records...it's legit. Shots aren't required. Only the mandated ones like Rabies. They are to protect your pets. Thats why you don't take your puppy place because some ppl dont at all...have them vaccinated. |
Use apple cider vinegar as a rub and to wash your dog...no need yo worry about a parvo shot. |
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I wouldn't skip shots . But if the breeder is trusted and has a label. Giving shots isn't hard. I would worry then. |
I dont do parvo shots. Apple Cider Vinegar often called Mothers ACV is widely avalible in almost every grocery store worldwide. |
Dogs who have been fully vaccinated against parvo can still get it.... |
But isn't there less rick of getting Parvo with vaccinations? Why take a chance when Parvo is spread so easy? That why they think theres such a rise in Parvo. Because ppl aren't vaccinating there dogs. Thats what I Goggled anyways. Not like the shot is risky like some others |
My vet doesn't spay/neuter small dogs til most of their adult teeth are in or coming in. He said the less we need to anesthetize little ones is best for them. He will take out the retained teeth at the same time they are spayed/neutered. He also does not push for early spaying/neuters. It is dog, lifestyle, and owner based recommendations- Not cookie cutter. Sounds like vaccine overdose to me. 3 sets and done for most. |
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I Rub a little ACV on my dogs feet when we go to the vets, dog parks oyt in general it kills the parvo virus I rinse with it them (we dont shampoo we wen) and bath when we get home to get any funkies they could have picked up while out. Yhe only vac my dogs get is a rabies booster once every 3y years, we decline the lepto. As far as teeth doing it simaltaniously may be best but really thats subjective based on the situation. |
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Research is sketchy, I have a friend who runs what is basically an all puppy parvo rescue, she started using ACV and can attest to its ptoven working. Until it is scientifically clinically tested count on human errir, inadequate and inconsistant use to be prevelent. |
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Parvo is a very dangerous and deadly disease (especially to pups). However, any vet who recommends yearly vaccines, or is loading up excessively, is not following the AAHA (The American Animal Hospital Association) protocol, and I would never choose them as my pets primary care givers. Currently, the schedule is every 3 years, however it's been proven they last much longer. Yearly vaccines have been proven to be harmful and unnecessary, even by the biggest animal association that vet practices should follow by. "immunity lasts at least 5 years for distemper and parvo, and at least 7 years for adenovirus. So if the AAHA isn't enough evidence for you, I don't know what is. Here is the updated AAHA vaccine protocol: The Best Part About the New Dog Vaccination Guidelines Quote:
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read #14 -#17 post. I was trying to understand all this information. The initial shots I would do on a puppy. Anthing else I wouldn't in "PLACE" of the shots. I was asking for information re guarding the ACV. But it seems like it's just used as preventive care not replacement. A good breeder I would trust if they say they gave the shots and give you a record with the sticker. Never did I say she had to get them. I was looking for evidence that supports the ACV. |
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I am curious about the ACV too. I def wouldn't trust it over a vaccine. But I think concretegirl is saying she uses it in conjunction. |
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