Teeth extraction....

[Brenda2349]

My yorkies baby canines are still intact (not loose) and the permanent ones are halfway in..at what point and when do you have them extracted if they don't fall out? Should you get a yorkie the Lepto vaccine? Maybe a questions for a breeder? or anyone that knows.. Thanks!

[lock57]

At 6 months I took Sassy to the vet. Her permanent teeth were just piercing the skin inside her baby incisors. The vet suggested having the baby teeth both extracted at a cost of $500-$600 dollars. It's funny because the next week one of the teeth feel out on its own. There was still one left. Ive researched about when baby teeth should fall out on there own and got different answers. A few blogs even suggested getting ones finger and gently moving the tooth back and forth sideways. Well guess what after a month or so of doing this the second tooth came out. Now I'm no expert on Yorkshire Terriers but just wanted to share my experience, GOOD LUCK.

[ArmaniMan]

Retained baby teeth should, if possible, be removed at the same time as spay/ neuter. It prevents the dog from having to go under multiple times. I usually recommend holding off a little on a spay/ neuter if baby teeth are retained and giving them a chance to fall out on their own- my Chloe's teeth finally fell out at 9 months old, she was spayed at 10 months old.

Whether or not to give lepto really depends on how bad it is in your area- I chose not to give lepto to either of mine because the vet didn't feel like they were high risk at all. This is really something to discuss with your vet. Whether or not you give lepto make sure that you only give one shot at a time.

[Brenda2349]

I just came back from the vet and for the 4 fangs and 1 incisor will be $550 lowest to $640 (includes bloodwork) thats without a spay. Darn!! The bottom fangs are side by side and they have to come out as they are being pushed inward..my luck and they said I shouldnt wait on it. Getting another estimate from "my" vet to see what they come up with. Darn these little ones are expensive!!

Roxy did get separate shots.. lepto is the last one.. guess I will wait till spring when she is older. She said that she is not at high risk for it now. Thanks for your input everyone!

[OwnedByJezebel]

Jezebel's bottom fangs did exactly the same as what you describe, the adult teeth coming in on the inside of the baby teeth. The baby teeth did loosen up and come out on their own, and the adult teeth moved outward into the proper position. I waited until about 8 months for her spay just to give all of the teeth a chance to fall out on their own. The only ones that had to be removed were the 2 upper canines, and I think I was charged only about $20 each.

A good portion of the costs for any surgery is the pre-surgical bloodwork, anesthesia, OR equipment, pain meds. You will only have to pay these costs once if you get the teeth done the same time as the spay. Not to mention the risk of going under anesthesia twice if you get this done separately.

If I were you, I would wait a little longer to give them as much of a chance as possible to let them fall out on their own. Give your pup things to chew on and play tug of war.

[YorkieChick1]

My vet does them when I get the pup fixed and only charges me $20 a tooth because the dog is already put under for the spay/neuter. You should ask how much when you fix them. It seems very excessive to charge $500- 600 when you are already getting a spay. Good Luck.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Brenda2349

I just came back from the vet and for the 4 fangs and 1 incisor will be $550 lowest to $640 (includes bloodwork) thats without a spay. Darn!! The bottom fangs are side by side and they have to come out as they are being pushed inward..my luck and they said I shouldnt wait on it. Getting another estimate from "my" vet to see what they come up with. Darn these little ones are expensive!!

Roxy did get separate shots.. lepto is the last one.. guess I will wait till spring when she is older. She said that she is not at high risk for it now. Thanks for your input everyone!

Check around. My vet only charged $15 per tooth for Scarlett when she went in to have her spay.

[Brenda2349]

Got the second estimate from the vet I deal with with my other dog and cats and its only $250 for the 5 teeth, bloodwork and lepto shot..which Im not doing now. The bottom baby canines (fangs) are pushing the adult teeth inward. Im holding off on the spay.. I have friends and family that would like a puppy. If she is healthy and all tests come back that she is sound..I may have her bred once. We shall see. Thanks for telling me your experiences. I go tomorrow for the pre op check, maybe this vet will say something different. Should they be taken out if they are side to side instead of front to back (fangs) in these little dogs?

[Rhetts_mama]

Sigh.

[YorkieChick1]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Sigh.

I'm sighing too....

[Brenda2349]

[Furbaby Friend]

Originally Posted by Brenda2349

Got the second estimate from the vet I deal with with my other dog and cats and its only $250 for the 5 teeth, bloodwork and lepto shot..which Im not doing now. The bottom baby canines (fangs) are pushing the adult teeth inward. Im holding off on the spay.. I have friends and family that would like a puppy. If she is healthy and all tests come back that she is sound..I may have her bred once. We shall see. Thanks for telling me your experiences. I go tomorrow for the pre op check, maybe this vet will say something different. Should they be taken out if they are side to side instead of front to back (fangs) in these little dogs?

Well if your little one is healthy... why not refer your friends/family to the breeder you got them from (I'm assuming they were reputable)? If they can't afford your breeder, how about a rescue? Plenty of dogs that need homes.

That way you can spay your girl and not put her in danger by breeding without prior experience... and everyone can have a happy, healthy pup!

Just a thought...

[Brenda2349]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

That way you can spay your girl and not put her in danger by breeding without prior experience... and everyone can have a happy, healthy pup!

Just a thought...

and who says I haven't!! This will be a very calculated decision..don't lose sleep over it! Thanks for your caring thoughts.

[Furbaby Friend]

Originally Posted by Brenda2349

and who says I haven't!! This will be a very calculated decision..don't lose sleep over it! Thanks for your caring thoughts.

Well I'm assuming from the questions in your original post that you've never bred a Yorkie because a well researched/mentored breeder would know if they should have the lepto vaccine and when teeth would be removed (from owning and caring for the breed in many aspects)... just saying. You also said that those may be questions for a breeder... meaning you aren't one according to yourself.

I just want you to be careful that's all because I know you must love your baby a lot!

Breeding yorkies is a whole different animal from breeding other dogs from what I've read... Your baby could be put in serious danger from you breeding her without the proper knowledge.

Your family/friends could all get happy pups from your breeder who is more experienced (and I'm just assuming here reputable) and knows her lines and which dogs are of breeding quality. Or if they can't afford that, rescues are a great option. I do not think you should be breeding your girl and should consider a spay, but that is just my opinion.

[Brenda2349]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

but that is just my opinion.

Funny thing.. but I don't remember asking for your opinion about breeding. Every precaution will be taken that all goes well should the decision to breed warrant itself. It's sad that posters like you and the ones with the "sigh" remarks ruin it for people who are looking for Yorkie information. I noticed my yorkies baby teeth were still tightly intact with the adult tooth halfway in. I knew that little dogs have more problems with there teeth..so I googled it..hmm.. there are a lot of posts here about it. Just wanted to hear what others "experienced".. she has already been seen by 2 vets with the same diagnoses that they should be extracted right away so Dec. 5th is the day. Mind you that the 2 estimates were quite a bit different in price. My long time vet will be doing the extractions. Roxy was seen by another local vet when I got her because I couldn't get her into my vet for a week after I got her. This vet was great also. So I went to this other vet where she received her checkup and puppy shots. (Hence the reason for the 2 different vets.) The lepto question.. was just merrily that.. I do take my dogs swimming.. so they do have the shot.. being a small dog I was JUST wondering if anyones dog had a bad reaction to it.. I'm not into over vaccinating my animals.. Especially my Goldens. I guess I should have reworded it better.

While I was at the vet we had a conversation about having her bred she said that under the "right circumstances" it is safer for a dog to bear puppies than to have a spay w/anesthesia. No one should take breeding a dog lightly.. it is very expensive and can be even more expensive should something go wrong..and like you said there is always a chance of losing her. But that is the same as when we decide to have babies. You don't tell your daughter..oh... let me birth your kids for you because you don't know how to do it! Seriously.. thats what you are saying about leaving it up to a breeder to breed. How do you think they gained their wisdom. This is not a puppy mill situation.. all puppies will already have homes and will be neutered or spayed..NOT for YOU to worry. I helped a dog whelp a litter of 10 puppies where I had to take the sacks off and cut the cords and supplement them until the mom settled in with them. Thankfully she did! I even removed the dewclaws and cauterized the spots with a vets instruction. Its amazing what you can do with confidence and the willing to learn.

You talked about the Pro's for spaying, everyone hears the pros..have you ever read the cons? Don't get me wrong..I am most definitely for spaying and neutering (my other animals are) but don't mislead people that its all so safe..there is danger in many things we do for our animals. There is no doubt that it is the right thing to do for pet population control but not without it's dangers.

So with having said all this.. please be respectful to people posting on here..they are here to learn..you can never stop learning.. but when posters like you and the others that give "sigh" remarks come along, it really ruins what they have going here. My dog experience is extensive.. showing (Champion Gordon Setter), training, groomer, greyhound rescue, fostering so please don't undermine the people that come to gain more information through other peoples experiences. Give your opinion when asked..please...

Drawbacks of sterilization
Any surgery has drawbacks. Dogs can react badly to anesthesia in spite of precautions or can experience complications during recovery. Some dogs react negatively to the suture material used, and incisions do not heal properly.
Concurrent with the increase in laws and regulations regarding pet sterilization, research since 1990 has shown that spay and neuter surgeries may have specific drawbacks as well as benefits. Dogs neutered before puberty tend to have longer legs, flatter chests, and narrower skulls that intact dogs of their breeds because the hormones that regulate sexual activity also interact with hormones that guide growth of muscles, bones, and tendons. These physical differences can place more stress on joints and can cause problems for active dogs, especially those in training for agility and those that work in physically stressful jobs.
Additional drawbacks specific to spay surgery include increased incidence of bladder incontinence, triple the frequency of thyroid disease, and higher risk of some cancers, joint problems, and obesity and adverse reactions to vaccinations.