Teeth extraction....

[Rhetts_mama]

Funny thing is, that when you post something on a public forum, you WILL get opinions.

And any vet that tells you that it's safer for dog to whelp rather than undergo spay/neutering is one who's judgment should be questioned.

[Brenda2349]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Funny thing is, that when you post something on a public forum, you WILL get opinions.

And any vet that tells you that it's safer for dog to whelp rather than undergo spay/neutering is one who's judgment should be questioned.

You should really try to just answer posters questions. Thats MY POINT. You are obviously a very opinionated person who loves to shove it down others people throats (check your posts).. Just give your opinion when someone asks for it, not even your opinion but your experiences, it would make for a better forum!

Incase you never had children.. childbirth as puppybirth, is a very NATURAL occurence and much safer than cutting and anesthesia. Any vet that says other.. "I" would question. It's obvious you don't take a 7lb bitch and breed her with a 10lb stud..etc.. there is a lot to be said here..but WE aren't going there.. NOW focus... I am not asking for your opinion about breeding, vets, etc.. If you have something to add about "at what age and if you had any teeth extractions with your yorkie ..I would love to hear about it!

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Brenda2349

You should really try to just answer posters questions. Thats MY POINT. You are obviously a very opinionated person who loves to shove it down others people throats (check your posts).. Just give your opinion when someone asks for it, not even your opinion but your experiences, it would make for a better forum!

Incase you never had children.. childbirth as puppybirth, is a very NATURAL occurence and much safer than cutting and anesthesia. Any vet that says other.. "I" would question. It's obvious you don't take a 7lb bitch and breed her with a 10lb stud..etc.. there is a lot to be said here..but WE aren't going there.. NOW focus... I am not asking for your opinion about breeding, vets, etc.. If you have something to add about "at what age and if you had any teeth extractions with your yorkie ..I would love to hear about it!

Let's first begin with the fact that when you post on a public board, the things posted here are not just for the OP, but future readers as well. Your questions about the Lepto and teeth extraction were answered. The conversation then turned to breeding. If you don't like the fact that the conversation turned, feel free to stop participating in the thread or, better yet, send a pm to the admin and ask them to close the thread. If my responses bother you so much on other threads, then I suggest you go to your user control panel and put me on your "ignore" list; doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

As for having children, yes I do have them. I also have 20+ years experience as an NICU nurse who's primary job is to attend high risk deliveries. While child birth is "natural" in the sense that the body does it, anyone who has experience in the field will be the first to tell you that there is nothing "safe" about it. Dying during birth is also "natural". It takes experienced people to know the danger signs that present in both the mother and the fetus to intervene properly. If any idiot could deliver a child safely, then there would be no need for hospitals, doctors, nurses, midwives and anesthesiologists. Unfortunately, I've seen far more bad outcomes with people who have refused interventions when required than those who knew when to step back and accept the help.

The same goes for whelping. It takes someone who has been properly trained by a good mentor to safely deliver their bitches. Picking up a few tips on the internet isn't going to cut it. Some people will get lucky. Many more won't. Take a look at the breeder section to see a few of the very sad stories about lost puppies and bitches. A spay or neuter done by an experienced vet who is up to date on anesthesia protocols and has performed the requisite pre-anesthesia testing on a Yorkie is far safer than a whelp.

The best breeders have studied the subject and their particular breeds for years before undertaking the risks. They are aware that it takes more than just knowing that you don't breed a 7 pound female to a 10 pound male. They know that the vast majority of Yorkies out there are not suitable for breeding. They have thoroughly investigated the health of the whole line they are planning on breeding. They have had their dogs tested. They have made sure their dogs are excellent representations of the breed, not just "cute". They know that with every whelp, there is a chance that they will lose their bitch or her pups. They are on the watch for things such as prolonged labors, infections and eclampsia and know how to intervene properly. They aren't flippant when it comes to breeding.

These breeders are very aware that a spay or neuter done with a properly trained vet is far safer than an inexperienced person breeding. They are also very aware that their job as a breeder doesn't stop once the puppies are whelped and the pups (hopefully) placed in to good homes. Unfortunately, those good breeders are far too rare.

Now, I'm done with you and this thread. I hope your little one has it's own guardian angel to look out for it's well being.

[Priincess10]

I have a 8 month female yorkie and shes had a bad habit of
Tearing up paper or toiletpaper. Iv tried many ways to
Mske her stop and she still wont listen. Does anyone know
How to stop that habit of hers.

thank you

[Brenda2349]

You just couldn't bite your tongue..could you..lol.. Enough said! Just answer peoples questions and make this a much more pleasant forum!

[Brenda2349]

Originally Posted by Priincess10

I have a 8 month female yorkie and shes had a bad habit of
Tearing up paper or toiletpaper. Iv tried many ways to
Mske her stop and she still wont listen. Does anyone know
How to stop that habit of hers.

thank you

Mine does it too..I just shut the bathroom door and keep paper out of her reach! Spray bottle (water) may work if you catch her in the act. Dogs just like to tear up paper.. I have a 8 year old golden that will still shread napkins!

[cally930]

At 9 months old my yorkie had not lost most of his teeth. He actually had two rows of upper teeth in his mouth. He had to have 11 teeth extracted. Luckily my vet charged me the sme whether he had to extract one tooth or 20, so my bill was not that much. He is on the tiny side (2.2 lbs at the time) and was very worried with him going under. Thank God all went well and when I picked him up from the vet, he acted like nothing ever happened. I, too, have researched a lot and have found that most yorkies are notorious for retaining their baby teeth. My Coco lost all her teeth on her own and at 5 years old has yet to have a teeth cleaning (the vet says maybe next year), but Beckham, who will be a year in a few weeks, needed to have most of his teeth extracted, hates the greenies, and I am thinking most likely would need a teeth cleaning sometime in his second year. We will see. Good luck to you.

[Priincess10]

Originally Posted by Brenda2349

Mine does it too..I just shut the bathroom door and keep paper out of her reach! Spray bottle (water) may work if you catch her in the act. Dogs just like to tear up paper.. I have a 8 year old golden that will still shread napkins!

So it will always be a habit of them then. Did the spray bottle kunda stopped the habit or they still keep doing it.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Let's first begin with the fact that when you post on a public board, the things posted here are not just for the OP, but future readers as well. Your questions about the Lepto and teeth extraction were answered. The conversation then turned to breeding. If you don't like the fact that the conversation turned, feel free to stop participating in the thread or, better yet, send a pm to the admin and ask them to close the thread. If my responses bother you so much on other threads, then I suggest you go to your user control panel and put me on your "ignore" list; doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

As for having children, yes I do have them. I also have 20+ years experience as an NICU nurse who's primary job is to attend high risk deliveries. While child birth is "natural" in the sense that the body does it, anyone who has experience in the field will be the first to tell you that there is nothing "safe" about it. Dying during birth is also "natural". It takes experienced people to know the danger signs that present in both the mother and the fetus to intervene properly. If any idiot could deliver a child safely, then there would be no need for hospitals, doctors, nurses, midwives and anesthesiologists. Unfortunately, I've seen far more bad outcomes with people who have refused interventions when required than those who knew when to step back and accept the help.

The same goes for whelping. It takes someone who has been properly trained by a good mentor to safely deliver their bitches. Picking up a few tips on the internet isn't going to cut it. Some people will get lucky. Many more won't. Take a look at the breeder section to see a few of the very sad stories about lost puppies and bitches. A spay or neuter done by an experienced vet who is up to date on anesthesia protocols and has performed the requisite pre-anesthesia testing on a Yorkie is far safer than a whelp.

The best breeders have studied the subject and their particular breeds for years before undertaking the risks. They are aware that it takes more than just knowing that you don't breed a 7 pound female to a 10 pound male. They know that the vast majority of Yorkies out there are not suitable for breeding. They have thoroughly investigated the health of the whole line they are planning on breeding. They have had their dogs tested. They have made sure their dogs are excellent representations of the breed, not just "cute". They know that with every whelp, there is a chance that they will lose their bitch or her pups. They are on the watch for things such as prolonged labors, infections and eclampsia and know how to intervene properly. They aren't flippant when it comes to breeding.

These breeders are very aware that a spay or neuter done with a properly trained vet is far safer than an inexperienced person breeding. They are also very aware that their job as a breeder doesn't stop once the puppies are whelped and the pups (hopefully) placed in to good homes. Unfortunately, those good breeders are far too rare.

Now, I'm done with you and this thread. I hope your little one has it's own guardian angel to look out for it's well being.

All of it!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

When you post something on a public forum, you WILL get opinions.

This is correct . All members can post on this thread.

To the OP: all threads do have some leeway regarding the topic at hand, as that's the nature of discussion. Since you mentioned breeding in your first post of this thread, it's expected that some may comment. Thanks!

[Brenda2349]

My question did not ask for opinions on breeding, I asked for peoples experience with puppy teething and extractions. This post has turned into nothing but obnoxious harassment. Do not harass me about what I do or don't do with my dog. You do not know me, my vet, my breeder my intentions. I was very involved with showing and the politics that surround it. I do have experience with breeding and birthing of puppies.. get over it. If my bitch is not within the standards, to small, health, temperment, if tests are not conclusive she will not be bred. My dogs breeder will be a part of the decision. I do not care what you "breeder police" have to say! You said your piece so let it alone. Is your life so empty and so pitiful that you have nothing better to do than harass people? There are people here that want to discuss the info I was looking for and not have it full of your obnoxious posts! I think posters get the hint that breeding without ethics is bad news. You have it all over your forum. This is not the case. Since the moderators are reading these posts I will ask that all posts not pertaining to my question of teeth extraction be removed. To the moderators : What happened to the friendly poster motto that you have? No harassing as part of the rules! This is Harassment so please either delete the post or delete the posts that do not pertain to the question that I asked. Thank you for your support on this matter.

[Wylie's Mom]

Brenda2349 - please see my post, directly above yours -- that is still the answer. Stating opinions is not what we consider harassment. The thread was reviewed, and we don't see any posts that warrant deletion.

We won't be deleting your thread, however, I'll lock it for you. Thank you.