Rescue Remedy....let's try this again

[megansmomma]

I am very interested in other members experiences with Rescue Remedy and Calm Down. Since Part 1 of Rescue Remedy started out great and then took a turn to I would like to try this again~staying on the subject.

So here is my original question:

Bogey is horrible on car ride, thunderstorm, construction noise and I have been debating about Rescue Remedy. I finally bought some the other day and now I am wondering about dosage. He's a big boy close to 13 lbs of yorkie lovin' He loves to go in the car and on walks but is a total freak when I take him.

What dose should be given?

Can I overdose him?

What experience has everyone else had with Rescue Remedy?

How much time should I allow from the dose to the time we go in the car?

Has anyone seen an adverse reaction to using this?

Here are the links and information that I found regarding both Rescue Remedy and Calm Down (that Mardelin suggested)

Calm Down! (love the ! in the name )
lIex Aqui
Impatiens Glan
Helian. Num.
Ornith Umb. all
3C in 13% alcohol.

Directions:
• For immediate results administer 1 tsp. twice daily orally OR in dog's drinking water.
• Amount applies regardless of size or weight of dog.
• For puppies use 1/4 tsp.
• For Cats, use CALM DOWN! - FOR CATS
• CAUTION: Keep out of reach of children.
• Store in a cool dry place.


CALM DOWN! For Dogs & Cats by NaturVet - A Veterinarian Approved Aid to Help Your Dog or Cat Through Stressful Times
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*Looks like there are 2 different formulas one for pets and the other for people--

Rescue Remedy for Pets
Helianthemum nummularium 5x HPUS
Clematis vitalba 5x HPUS
Impatiens glandulifera 5x HPUS
Prunus cerasifera 5x HPUS
Ornithogalum umbellatum 5x HPUS
80% glycerin and 20% water


Rescue Remedy (People)
Helianthemum nummularium 5x HPUS
Clematis vitalba 5x HPUS
Impatiens glandulifera 5x HPUS
Prunus cerasifera 5x HPUS
Ornithogalum umbellatum 5x HPUS

Inactive Ingredients:
27% Alcohol


They both are the same dose of 4 drops on a treat or tongue but one has alcohol and the other glycerin and water base.


What I did find and this might go along with Mardelin having read that a pet died from using RR is that they also sell a candy/pill this is made with Xylitol which can cause liver damage to pets and even death.

Here is what I found relating to the Pastilles on the Rescue Remedy website:

http://www.rescueremedy.com/pdf/Resc...-Pastilles.pdf

This is the product that contains Xylitol"

Organic Pharmacy >> PRODUCTS

Boy am I glad that I asked this question otherwise I would have never started digging around.

Seems that both Calm Down and RR have about the same type of ingredients both being homeopathic flower essences. I'm questioning the alcohol but I did read in all that I looked into the the alcohol will NOT hurt our pets because of the way it is processed and if you add it to boiling water the alcohol evaporates (like adding wine to food )

I also would LOVE to have more information on the Peppermint Oil too. I'm now going to PM several of the members that contributed to the original thread and see if they would please come back and finish the discussion that was originally started regarding Anxiety and Stress caused my noise, cars rides, etc.

Hoping that this will now stay on track

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I am very interested in other members experiences with Rescue Remedy and Calm Down. Since Part 1 of Rescue Remedy started out great and then took a turn to I would like to try this again~staying on the subject.

So here is my original question:

Bogey is horrible on car ride, thunderstorm, construction noise and I have been debating about Rescue Remedy. I finally bought some the other day and now I am wondering about dosage. He's a big boy close to 13 lbs of yorkie lovin' He loves to go in the car and on walks but is a total freak when I take him.

What dose should be given?

Can I overdose him?

What experience has everyone else had with Rescue Remedy?

How much time should I allow from the dose to the time we go in the car?

Has anyone seen an adverse reaction to using this?

Here are the links and information that I found regarding both Rescue Remedy and Calm Down (that Mardelin suggested)

Calm Down! (love the ! in the name )
lIex Aqui
Impatiens Glan
Helian. Num.
Ornith Umb. all
3C in 13% alcohol.

Directions:
• For immediate results administer 1 tsp. twice daily orally OR in dog's drinking water.
• Amount applies regardless of size or weight of dog.
• For puppies use 1/4 tsp.
• For Cats, use CALM DOWN! - FOR CATS
• CAUTION: Keep out of reach of children.
• Store in a cool dry place.


CALM DOWN! For Dogs & Cats by NaturVet - A Veterinarian Approved Aid to Help Your Dog or Cat Through Stressful Times
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Looks like there are 2 different formulas one for pets and the other for people--

Rescue Remedy for Pets
Helianthemum nummularium 5x HPUS
Clematis vitalba 5x HPUS
Impatiens glandulifera 5x HPUS
Prunus cerasifera 5x HPUS
Ornithogalum umbellatum 5x HPUS
80% glycerin and 20% water


Rescue Remedy (People)
Helianthemum nummularium 5x HPUS
Clematis vitalba 5x HPUS
Impatiens glandulifera 5x HPUS
Prunus cerasifera 5x HPUS
Ornithogalum umbellatum 5x HPUS

Inactive Ingredients:
27% Alcohol


They both are the same dose of 4 drops on a treat or tongue but one has alcohol and the other glycerin and water base.


What I did find and this might go along with Mardelin having read that a pet died from using RR is that they also sell a candy/pill this is made with Xylitol which can cause liver damage to pets and even death.

Here is what I found relating to the Pastilles on the Rescue Remedy website:

http://www.rescueremedy.com/pdf/Resc...-Pastilles.pdf

This is the product that contains Xylitol"

Organic Pharmacy >> PRODUCTS

Boy am I glad that I asked this question otherwise I would have never started digging around.

Seems that both Calm Down and RR have about the same type of ingredients both being homeopathic flower essences. I'm questioning the alcohol but I did read in all that I looked into the the alcohol will NOT hurt our pets because of the way it is processed and if you add it to boiling water the alcohol evaporates (like adding wine to food )

I also would LOVE to have more information on the Peppermint Oil too. I'm now going to PM several of the members that contributed to the original thread and see if they would please come back and finish the discussion that was originally started regarding Anxiety and Stress caused my noise, cars rides, etc.

Hoping that this will now stay on track

I've already given you my input.

I have one thing to add on the Peppermint Oil. And I don't know how to put this then just say it. I watched an infommercial on Natural Products to rid your home of pests.....Peppermint Oil is used on cotton balls to keep mice away.....don't know if that makes any difference.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I've already given you my input.

I have one thing to add on the Peppermint Oil. And I don't know how to put this then just say it. I watched an infommercial on Natural Products to rid your home of pests.....Peppermint Oil is used on cotton balls to keep mice away.....don't know if that makes any difference.

Now isn't that interesting~ I don't even know who I would ask about using Peppermint oil.

Thank you for answering my original thread--much appreciated.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Now isn't that interesting~ I don't even know who I would ask about using Peppermint oil.

Thank you for answering my original thread--much appreciated.

I have heard great things about Lavander Oil as having a calming affect on dogs. I've never used it but, maybe worth a try.

[megansmomma]

That is interesting too. I've seen the Kiosks at the mall that sell the flower essence heat pillows and they have some with Lavender Oils for calming.

[stovesj]

Rescue Remedy has several different formulas. I prefer to use the one that does not have any alcohol in it. I put it directly in their mouth as opposed to in their water. It is much easier to control the dose that way. Izzy can get very worked up on car rides and this has really helped her. Sorry, but I don't remember how much I gave her. I do know I put some in her mouth waited awhile after having no relief, then gave her another small amount. It took about 15 minutes to take effect and then she quit panting and shaking. Rescue Remedy worked very well for us.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by stovesj

Rescue Remedy has several different formulas. I prefer to use the one that does not have any alcohol in it. I put it directly in their mouth as opposed to in their water. It is much easier to control the dose that way. Izzy can get very worked up on car rides and this has really helped her. Sorry, but I don't remember how much I gave her. I do know I put some in her mouth waited awhile after having no relief, then gave her another small amount. It took about 15 minutes to take effect and then she quit panting and shaking. Rescue Remedy worked very well for us.

So does Plush Puppy Formulas

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by stovesj

Rescue Remedy has several different formulas. I prefer to use the one that does not have any alcohol in it. I put it directly in their mouth as opposed to in their water. It is much easier to control the dose that way. Izzy can get very worked up on car rides and this has really helped her. Sorry, but I don't remember how much I gave her. I do know I put some in her mouth waited awhile after having no relief, then gave her another small amount. It took about 15 minutes to take effect and then she quit panting and shaking. Rescue Remedy worked very well for us.

Thank you for sharing. I believe it is the pet formula that has no alcohol. So we were able to give one dose and then add a second to to get the relief?

[Wylie's Mom]

Oh, Jodi also! What about Melatonin for this? It can be used for this, and also for 4th of July:

Noise phobia in dogs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And also see that link for "pressure wraps" - have you thought about using an "anxiety t-shirt" for him during walks?

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Oh, Jodi also! What about Melatonin for this? It can be used for this, and also for 4th of July:

Noise phobia in dogs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And also see that link for "pressure wraps" - have you thought about using an "anxiety t-shirt" for him during walks?

I remember Nikki2+2 talking about Sugar and the pressure wraps. It sounded very encouraging.

Is the Melatonin a prescription?

[cathys]

I've used RR for years myself and also for my children and my dogs. I give it directly into there mouth. Sofia is very small so I gave her 2 drops within 10 to 15 minutes she was ready to go. My Maltese is closer to 8 lbs he gets 4 drops worked great for car rides. RR also has a formula for sleep it's for humans and has helped me a lot. If I can't get to sleep a couple drops or sprays under the tongue an I can get some rest. My College kids use it to help them calm down when over stressed about tests. I would recommend it to anyone with stress or anxiety. JMOP.

[megansmomma]

There were a couple of links at the bottom on the Wiki link for the pressure shirts.

Dog Anxiety Treatment | Cures Noise Anxiety In Dogs | Thundershirt.com

https://anxietywrap.com/default.aspx

[darnlora]

I was the poster on peppermint oil. You can purchase it at most homeopathic herbalist stores. I was told by herbalist and my accupressurist both to use on pets as calming agent to use 1 -2 dilution with mineral oil. (like 1/2 oz. oil to 1 oz. mineral oil.) To use you put on pads of the feet. You can also for human migraines by putting on temples. Lavender oil also works same way on pads of feet as well as put it on their chin. I also have used accupresurist for Samantha problems in conjuction with these.

My vets' ideas were meds amitriptiline and clomicalm. Dummy me actually tried both at vets suggestion. Result? Calmed her to zombie like.... Also tried Rescue Remedy- At his suggestion- Only to end up with a very bad sick girl both throwing up and the runs. Alot of Samanthas problems started when I spayed her vet said alot of her problems were caused by extreme hormone fluctuations...Nervousness to aggression issues. Also have learned alot from Leslie K9 trainer on this forum she has helped me learn alot about behavior modification.... We have alot of wonderful ppl on here who I have learned oodles from. Sorry so lengthy -I get windy sometimes all about the love for our fur babies! I have also heard about the peppermint for mice thing... It does work, however you use lots of oil not diluted, on lots of cotton balls. Peppermint not only calms it also can be utilized as appetite deterrent if you smell it. If diluted properly can be used for congestion too!! Hugs to all!!!!

[dwerten]

here is a link to the previous thread about this - thanks to ann for teaching me how to google yorkietalk only

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...ral-drops.html

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by darnlora

I was the poster on peppermint oil. You can purchase it at most homeopathic herbalist stores. I was told by herbalist and my accupressurist both to use on pets as calming agent to use 1 -2 dilution with mineral oil. (like 1/2 oz. oil to 1 oz. mineral oil.) To use you put on pads of the feet. You can also for human migraines by putting on temples. Lavender oil also works same way on pads of feet as well as put it on their chin. I also have used accupresurist for Samantha problems in conjuction with these.

My vets' ideas were meds amitriptiline and clomicalm. Dummy me actually tried both at vets suggestion. Result? Calmed her to zombie like.... Also tried Rescue Remedy- At his suggestion- Only to end up with a very bad sick girl both throwing up and the runs. Alot of Samanthas problems started when I spayed her vet said alot of her problems were caused by extreme hormone fluctuations...Nervousness to aggression issues. Also have learned alot from Leslie K9 trainer on this forum she has helped me learn alot about behavior modification.... We have alot of wonderful ppl on here who I have learned oodles from. Sorry so lengthy -I get windy sometimes all about the love for our fur babies! I have also heard about the peppermint for mice thing... It does work, however you use lots of oil not diluted, on lots of cotton balls. Peppermint not only calms it also can be utilized as appetite deterrent if you smell it. If diluted properly can be used for congestion too!! Hugs to all!!!!

Thank you for giving us all of this mixture ratios. It's interesting that you had aggression issues after her spay. Pebbles has some issues as well and always wondered if this was the cause.