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_Chrissy_ · 02-08-2010, 06:44 PM

I am so sorry about Sophie.

Our vet only gives the puppy shots one at a time. Every week or 2 spaced out. She said she does this to be able to tell which shots if any the puppy is having a reaction to so they know what the problem is. She only charges for the shots and not a visit each time the puppy is in for these shots. Then we have to wait in the office at least /2 hour after the shots are given.
Also, we chose to not give our dogs the Lepto shot based on info I discovered here on YT and because the vet's staff recommended against it.
No combo vaccines are used.

Personally, I would find a new vet.

violet voon · 02-08-2010, 06:47 PM

I'm sorry to hear this, may Sophie rest in peace..

dwerten · 02-08-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JCBL

The only time she did this was about a week and 1/2 ago. I took her to see a friend who has a poodle and a whippet. The poodle was all in her face. She walked against the counter and the wall there at first - I thought it was to keep the poodle away from her because this way she was behind chairs etc. She did it just a little in their hall but mostly played as she got used to the other dogs. Could this one time event have been a sympton of a liver shunt. That is the only potential symptom I saw till the seizures started.
As regards the test they did a liver function test that was normal. They were waiting till Monday to do the bile acid test, then they decided to go ahead and do it, but by that time she was too sick.

this is what it looks like

YouTube - Liver Shunt - Pug Pacing and Head Pressing

dwerten · 02-08-2010, 07:00 PM

vaccine reactions

Allergic Reaction to Vaccines in Dogs

dwerten · 02-08-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Chrissy_

I am so sorry about Sophie.

Our vet only gives the puppy shots one at a time. Every week or 2 spaced out. She said she does this to be able to tell which shots if any the puppy is having a reaction to so they know what the problem is. She only charges for the shots and not a visit each time the puppy is in for these shots. Then we have to wait in the office at least /2 hour after the shots are given.
Also, we chose to not give our dogs the Lepto shot based on info I discovered here on YT and because the vet's staff recommended against it.
No combo vaccines are used.

Personally, I would find a new vet.

wow sounds like you have a great vet there - i always say it is best to wait 1 hr after shot at office but good to know 2 hrs is even better

dwerten · 02-08-2010, 07:08 PM

more vaccine reaction info

Adverse Reactions to Vaccinations in Dogs

_Chrissy_ · 02-08-2010, 07:16 PM

Sorry typo...she makes us wait at least 1/2 hour to 1 hour after a shot is given.
And she gives the shots first thing in the morning so that the vets office is open should there be a reaction.

Lisa and Pic · 02-09-2010, 03:37 AM

I am so very, very sorry for your loss.....

I had no idea that vaccines could cause so many reactions, until one of my little ones reacted poorly. (In fact, that is how I found YorkieTalk.)

So, relating to your pain and loss. Sending hugs and sympathy your way....

Wrenee4 · 02-09-2010, 10:08 AM

I believe it was the shots for sure. How would they explain that she had no symptoms until AFTER the shots were given?? They gave her way too many shots at once and the Lepto is scary even if given all by itself. Corona IMO is not needed at all and only added to this. I am soooo sorry about your baby

Maddie23 · 02-09-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten

this is what it looks like

YouTube - Liver Shunt - Pug Pacing and Head Pressing

that was so interesting to see... any idea what causes them to pace the walls? I understand it is the liver shunt, but what about having liver shunt would cause them to pace a wall?

ARCHIE · 02-09-2010, 10:49 AM

I am so sorry for your loss.
It's heartbreaking.

blueskies · 02-10-2010, 08:31 AM

I have a breeder friend who let a 12 week old puppy go to their new home last year. She was doing great and the new owner took her to Banfield for her check up. They gave her a parvo/distemper shot as well as a Corona shot. They also did bloodwork and it was normal. The next day the puppy started going downhill. She was hospitalized over the course of 4 days and eventually got so bad that she had to be put down. Her body was sent to a veterinary school state testing lab that has an excellent reputation. A necropsy was done and there were NO abnormalities, no shunting, nothing. The report concluded that the puppy had "hypoglycemia brought on by vaccines". My breeder friend did not have to since the cause was not genetic, but she replaced the puppy. She held onto the next one until she was done with all her vaccines and had had a full blood workup at the breeders vet when she was 4 months old, and the owner went to a different vet. These vaccines DO cause issues in small breed puppies, especially Lepto and Corona. They are both so dangerous and if they are REALLY needed in an area with high incidence of either disease, then they should be given separately from the regular 5 way shot. Vets are too quick to give a 1-2 lb puppy a load of these shots, and they give the same dose to a 100 lb dog. It just doesn't make sense.

livingdustmops · 02-10-2010, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueskies

I have a breeder friend who let a 12 week old puppy go to their new home last year. She was doing great and the new owner took her to Banfield for her check up. They gave her a parvo/distemper shot as well as a Corona shot. They also did bloodwork and it was normal. The next day the puppy started going downhill. She was hospitalized over the course of 4 days and eventually got so bad that she had to be put down. Her body was sent to a veterinary school state testing lab that has an excellent reputation. A necropsy was done and there were NO abnormalities, no shunting, nothing. The report concluded that the puppy had "hypoglycemia brought on by vaccines". My breeder friend did not have to since the cause was not genetic, but she replaced the puppy. She held onto the next one until she was done with all her vaccines and had had a full blood workup at the breeders vet when she was 4 months old, and the owner went to a different vet. These vaccines DO cause issues in small breed puppies, especially Lepto and Corona. They are both so dangerous and if they are REALLY needed in an area with high incidence of either disease, then they should be given separately from the regular 5 way shot. Vets are too quick to give a 1-2 lb puppy a load of these shots, and they give the same dose to a 100 lb dog. It just doesn't make sense.

So why didn't the breeder explain this to the puppy owner? Did the breeder give her any information on vaccinations?

http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf

blueskies · 02-10-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops

So why didn't the breeder explain this to the puppy owner? Did the breeder give her any information on vaccinations?

http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf

Oh yes, she definitely did! I left that part out but she not only tells puppy buyers about the vaccines that they should and shouldnt get, but she gives them paperwork with the information as well in capital letters and goes over it when the puppy is picked up. She did this with that buyer, but when she took the puppy to Banfield they have a discount "package" that includes the vaccines. The buyer said that the vet just gave the puppy the set of vaccines and then gave her a printout when she left of what she had had. They did not even ask her. My friend now makes a point when each puppy leaves to tell her story and to remind each person to TELL their vet which vaccines they want and speak up. It could mean their life!

livingdustmops · 02-10-2010, 09:03 AM

Sad...after the breeders hardwork...I HATE BANFIELD because they make their $$$$ on vaccinations even the ones not needed but in this case they convinced the puppy owner to go ahead.

02-08-2010, 06:44 PM	#16
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	I am so sorry about Sophie. Our vet only gives the puppy shots one at a time. Every week or 2 spaced out. She said she does this to be able to tell which shots if any the puppy is having a reaction to so they know what the problem is. She only charges for the shots and not a visit each time the puppy is in for these shots. Then we have to wait in the office at least /2 hour after the shots are given. Also, we chose to not give our dogs the Lepto shot based on info I discovered here on YT and because the vet's staff recommended against it. No combo vaccines are used. Personally, I would find a new vet. __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie) Last edited by _Chrissy_; 02-08-2010 at 06:48 PM.

02-08-2010, 06:47 PM	#17
violet voon YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: M'sia Posts: 454	I'm sorry to hear this, may Sophie rest in peace.. __________________ Sugar - 6th February 2009

02-08-2010, 07:16 PM	#22
_Chrissy_ Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,561	Sorry typo...she makes us wait at least 1/2 hour to 1 hour after a shot is given. And she gives the shots first thing in the morning so that the vets office is open should there be a reaction. __________________ Max (the Morkie) & Mickey (the Yorkie)

02-09-2010, 03:37 AM	#23
Lisa and Pic ♥ Piccolo & Vivi ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 14,311	I am so very, very sorry for your loss..... I had no idea that vaccines could cause so many reactions, until one of my little ones reacted poorly. (In fact, that is how I found YorkieTalk.) So, relating to your pain and loss. Sending hugs and sympathy your way.... __________________ Lisa, Dixie, and Jazzy (RIP Piccolo and Vivi)

02-09-2010, 10:08 AM	#24
Wrenee4 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,048	I believe it was the shots for sure. How would they explain that she had no symptoms until AFTER the shots were given?? They gave her way too many shots at once and the Lepto is scary even if given all by itself. Corona IMO is not needed at all and only added to this. I am soooo sorry about your baby __________________ ~Wendy~

02-08-2010, 07:00 PM	#19
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	vaccine reactions Allergic Reaction to Vaccines in Dogs

02-08-2010, 07:08 PM	#21
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	more vaccine reaction info Adverse Reactions to Vaccinations in Dogs

02-09-2010, 10:49 AM	#26
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	I am so sorry for your loss. It's heartbreaking.

02-10-2010, 08:31 AM	#27
blueskies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 138	I have a breeder friend who let a 12 week old puppy go to their new home last year. She was doing great and the new owner took her to Banfield for her check up. They gave her a parvo/distemper shot as well as a Corona shot. They also did bloodwork and it was normal. The next day the puppy started going downhill. She was hospitalized over the course of 4 days and eventually got so bad that she had to be put down. Her body was sent to a veterinary school state testing lab that has an excellent reputation. A necropsy was done and there were NO abnormalities, no shunting, nothing. The report concluded that the puppy had "hypoglycemia brought on by vaccines". My breeder friend did not have to since the cause was not genetic, but she replaced the puppy. She held onto the next one until she was done with all her vaccines and had had a full blood workup at the breeders vet when she was 4 months old, and the owner went to a different vet. These vaccines DO cause issues in small breed puppies, especially Lepto and Corona. They are both so dangerous and if they are REALLY needed in an area with high incidence of either disease, then they should be given separately from the regular 5 way shot. Vets are too quick to give a 1-2 lb puppy a load of these shots, and they give the same dose to a 100 lb dog. It just doesn't make sense. __________________ No longer breeding----Just enjoying my four special Yorks! Mom loves Widget, Ice, Tigger, and Blast

02-10-2010, 09:03 AM	#30
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	Sad...after the breeders hardwork...I HATE BANFIELD because they make their $$$$ on vaccinations even the ones not needed but in this case they convinced the puppy owner to go ahead. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!