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Wylie's Mom · 03-30-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nellye56

Well for some reason Roxy would not go near the applesauce with the Moducare in it. Maybe she saw me mixing it in. I finally slipped some into some peanut butter and she licked it right off the spoon. Now I have to wait until about 10:30 to let her eat her evening meal. By the way, I have been reading more and more on these plant sterols- seems the FDA has allowed them to be advertised for lowering cholesterol in humans. Also there are studies to prove they are good for autoimmune diseases. Who Knew!?! I'll be taking them myself too.

Yes, that's right - aren't sterols cool? I believe too that if a person is taking sterols for cholesterol lowering, it can be taken w/ meals then. I think sterols are also used for prostate issues and frequent urination. Pretty cool stuff.

Cheryl · 04-08-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Yes, that's right - aren't sterols cool? I believe too that if a person is taking sterols for cholesterol lowering, it can be taken w/ meals then. I think sterols are also used for prostate issues and frequent urination. Pretty cool stuff.

I have been reading with much interest on Moducare! We had another Vet visit shortly after Gyspy's clipping, and this is the second time that has happened to us! It is so serious with her! Her scratching is uncontrollable and she draws blood! She gets red everywhere on her body and it is sad! She is red and feverish too! Hate the steriod shots, and I can't say they work well, but don't know what else to do! It is not the shampoo, and I wonder if it could be the blade or something they clean it with? I am at my wits end with worry! She is resting finally, but we are talking hours of serious scratching! Happened 8 weeks ago too! Please, let me know if this happens to others! Benadryl does nothing!

linda44 · 04-10-2009, 04:57 PM

any results yet?

Julie1760 · 04-10-2009, 05:14 PM

I will be watching this too to see if it works. My bichon has terrible summer allergies. She chews on her legs and feet so much that she chews off her hair and makes herself sore. I tried some of the products suggested by Susan,but they did nothing for her. Benedryl does nothing for her. Even the shots from the vet we tried last summer, only lasted for about 2 weeks max.

I would love to find some relief for her. We haven't gotten into the pollen season here yet, so maybe if I get ahead of it...we won't have that bad of a year.

wemple2 · 04-10-2009, 05:43 PM

Very interesting stuff, can't wait to hear your results...

Nellye56 · 04-11-2009, 08:54 AM

Roxy has been on Moducare for two weeks now, they say it takes about 3 weeks to work. Week 1 I was a little concerned because she seemed to get worse, then Wylie's mom advised me of the extremely high pollen count in my area. She cleared up faster than normal. I have noticed the last couple of days much less scratching and no intense scratching at all as before- just a brief scratch here and there. Folks, it may be a little early but I think we may have a winner! I don't know if a larger dosage makes it work quicker but I have used two capsules already. Roxy gets her's in a little peanut butter which she licks off a spoon. And her little eyes are crystal clear!

I started taking it for cholesterol but realized I haven't had a sinus headache which Iusually get when the pollen count has been extremely high. I've been taking 2 after breakfast and 1 at bedtime for 2 weeks. Haven't had my cholesterol checked again yet. My skinbaby is waiting to see how it works for Roxy and me first.

time2go · 04-12-2009, 04:32 AM

How much are you giving Roxy daily? I have been giving Gracie about 1/2 capsule daily for almost 2 weeks and I can't really tell much of a difference in her scratching. Gracie is about 8 1/2 lbs.

Wylie's Mom · 04-12-2009, 06:06 AM

Nellye

- I was just going to PM you today

! SO happy you might be seeing results! And for yourself too!

I have a bit of an update, but not really a complete one. First, I called Moducare directly and spoke w/ a woman who I think was involved w/ the studies - she was very knowledgeable. I had a few questions for her -- but then she also said that I should go ahead and just give the dogs a 1/2 capsule (rather than trying to give 1/8th capsule, which is what I was doing). She also said that in talking to her Vets, that many of them just go ahead and have their clients sprinkle it on the dog's food - and they're still seeing the results. The Vets said that bc dogs metabolize fats differently than humans, that it seems less important to give w/ non-animal fat. But, she said, they can't put that on the instructions bc that info is anecdotal only (not studied). For now though, I will keep giving it w/ the PB so I can evaluate it first, before changing anything. She also said that the 2-3 wk mark is the earliest one would see results - and that it actually takes 1-3 months to see full results.

On to Marcel - not a whole lot to report yet. His eyes seem less gunky/watery - noticed this after about 2 weeks (this Weds will mark 3 wks for him). His other main symptom was the paw chewing - this hasn't changed much yet...so I'm still hoping for improvement there. The pollen has been and still is so high here, so at least it's a good time to test this out.

Nellye56 · 04-13-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by time2go

How much are you giving Roxy daily? I have been giving Gracie about 1/2 capsule daily for almost 2 weeks and I can't really tell much of a difference in her scratching. Gracie is about 8 1/2 lbs.

I am giving Roxy about 1/4 capsule daily. The first capsule lasted 5 days the next only 4 days. I try to measure it out but with capsules it's difficult. Roxie weights about 7 pounds. I think I'll gradually increase her to the 1/2 capusle dose now though. One other thing I've noticed is that her poo is drier- not hard, but drier- not sure if that has anything to do with the Moducare, but Moducare and peanut butter are the only changes I have made in the last two weeks.

The biggest difference I am noticing is clear eyes and less intense scratching. She still scratches but not like she's losing her mind, if that makes sense. I noticed too that yesteday while we were at my mom's she scratched twice in a 4-5 hour period. My mom noticed that she wasn't scratching as much and called it to my attention. We don't spend much time at my mom's with Roxy because my mom has every pollen bearing flower and tree in the world in her yard! So of course my mom is elated at the possibility of spending more time with her "Granddog"

Nellye56 · 04-20-2009, 04:10 PM

Greetings,

Roxy is heading into week 4 of Moducare. Her eyes are still clear and still no more intense scratching. She's been on about 1/3 capsule daily. we are going to 1/2 capsule this week. I don't know if this has anything to do with the moducare, but her "heels" on her rear feet used to be red and scaly- now they are normal again and hair is growing on them again. Perhaps the redness came from her constantly bumping her foot on the floor/or whatever when she was scratching so intensely. Who knows, I am just soooo glad that she seems to be getting better and better.

linda44 · 04-21-2009, 02:34 PM

ok it seems to be working right? So tell me the name and where to get it, dose and all that again please? Between my Suki who scratches all year and makes sores, and Dakota who doesnt scratch much but whose eyes are gunky, and feet scaley. Im ready to give it a shot. I sure appreciate you guys sharing the results.

Nellye56 · 04-22-2009, 04:51 PM

Greetings,

I got my moducare off Ebay, I believe it's also available at iHerb.com. I paid about $20.00/free shipping for a sealed bottle of 90 vegetarian capsules. I looked and the person I got mine from isn't listed- so I would make someone an offer of $20.00 and see what happens if the price is over $20.00.

I am now giving Roxy about 1/2 capsule daily in peanut butter. I started out with 1/4 capsule. Wylie's mom talked with the company and they advised we could give 1/2 capsule. I only missed about 2 days since I started giving it to her on March 30th.

Nellye56 · 05-04-2009, 06:12 PM

Roxy had been on Moducare- the plant sterol for almost a month. The results looked very promising. Then I took her to be groomed and now her eyes are running, she is scratching and chewing her paws. I have checked for everything. I suspect the groomer did not use the shampoo I bring this time. Also, I increased the Moducare to 1/2 capsule daily about the same time. Not sure if it was too much. She has never been quite this bad. I started her on Benadryl two days ago- it helps her sleep but that's about all. Otherwise she is still active, eating and pooping!

Wylie's Mom · 05-05-2009, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nellye56

Roxy had been on Moducare- the plant sterol for almost a month. The results looked very promising. Then I took her to be groomed and now her eyes are running, she is scratching and chewing her paws. I have checked for everything. I suspect the groomer did not use the shampoo I bring this time. Also, I increased the Moducare to 1/2 capsule daily about the same time. Not sure if it was too much. She has never been quite this bad. I started her on Benadryl two days ago- it helps her sleep but that's about all. Otherwise she is still active, eating and pooping!

Do they use any of those fragrance sprays and stuff on them there? I know many groomer do and I think it's so irritating for the dogs. Poor thing...it does make me think of something at the groomers. Did you check pollen.com - our types of pollen *just* changed a few days ago...so I wonder if yours did too and if that's the issue...

Nellye56 · 05-05-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Do they use any of those fragrance sprays and stuff on them there? I know many groomer do and I think it's so irritating for the dogs. Poor thing...it does make me think of something at the groomers. Did you check pollen.com - our types of pollen *just* changed a few days ago...so I wonder if yours did too and if that's the issue...

The groomer doesn't put any fragrance or perfume on Roxy, but that's not to say she wasn't exposed to it while there. Poor Roxy is worse than she has ever been. My nerves are shattered. I am looking for one of those collars to keep her from scratching her little eyes out. I wipe them with moist cotton balls all day when I'm home- but I work from 9-5 and am gone M-F. Just a few weeks ago her eyes were as clear as could be.

04-10-2009, 04:57 PM	#33
linda44 Luv my 7 Furkids Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: napa Posts: 9,655 Blog Entries: 4	any results yet? __________________ Linda, & furbutts http://www.sketchesbybarney.com

04-10-2009, 05:14 PM	#34
Julie1760 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Packer Country!!! Posts: 666	I will be watching this too to see if it works. My bichon has terrible summer allergies. She chews on her legs and feet so much that she chews off her hair and makes herself sore. I tried some of the products suggested by Susan,but they did nothing for her. Benedryl does nothing for her. Even the shots from the vet we tried last summer, only lasted for about 2 weeks max. I would love to find some relief for her. We haven't gotten into the pollen season here yet, so maybe if I get ahead of it...we won't have that bad of a year. __________________ •·.·´¯`·.·•Julie •·.·´¯`·.·• Chloé & Myah

04-10-2009, 05:43 PM	#35
wemple2 Wee Winston Wiggles Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kewanee, Illinois Posts: 9,666	Very interesting stuff, can't wait to hear your results... __________________ As Ever, Kathy Intruducing Bentley Winston and Spencer: RIP My Sweet Angels

04-11-2009, 08:54 AM	#36
Nellye56 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Point, GA, USA Posts: 51	Moducare update Roxy has been on Moducare for two weeks now, they say it takes about 3 weeks to work. Week 1 I was a little concerned because she seemed to get worse, then Wylie's mom advised me of the extremely high pollen count in my area. She cleared up faster than normal. I have noticed the last couple of days much less scratching and no intense scratching at all as before- just a brief scratch here and there. Folks, it may be a little early but I think we may have a winner! I don't know if a larger dosage makes it work quicker but I have used two capsules already. Roxy gets her's in a little peanut butter which she licks off a spoon. And her little eyes are crystal clear! I started taking it for cholesterol but realized I haven't had a sinus headache which Iusually get when the pollen count has been extremely high. I've been taking 2 after breakfast and 1 at bedtime for 2 weeks. Haven't had my cholesterol checked again yet. My skinbaby is waiting to see how it works for Roxy and me first.

04-12-2009, 04:32 AM	#37
time2go Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TN Posts: 192	How much are you giving Roxy daily? I have been giving Gracie about 1/2 capsule daily for almost 2 weeks and I can't really tell much of a difference in her scratching. Gracie is about 8 1/2 lbs. __________________ Chena

04-12-2009, 06:06 AM	#38
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Nellye - I was just going to PM you today ! SO happy you might be seeing results! And for yourself too! I have a bit of an update, but not really a complete one. First, I called Moducare directly and spoke w/ a woman who I think was involved w/ the studies - she was very knowledgeable. I had a few questions for her -- but then she also said that I should go ahead and just give the dogs a 1/2 capsule (rather than trying to give 1/8th capsule, which is what I was doing). She also said that in talking to her Vets, that many of them just go ahead and have their clients sprinkle it on the dog's food - and they're still seeing the results. The Vets said that bc dogs metabolize fats differently than humans, that it seems less important to give w/ non-animal fat. But, she said, they can't put that on the instructions bc that info is anecdotal only (not studied). For now though, I will keep giving it w/ the PB so I can evaluate it first, before changing anything. She also said that the 2-3 wk mark is the earliest one would see results - and that it actually takes 1-3 months to see full results. On to Marcel - not a whole lot to report yet. His eyes seem less gunky/watery - noticed this after about 2 weeks (this Weds will mark 3 wks for him). His other main symptom was the paw chewing - this hasn't changed much yet...so I'm still hoping for improvement there. The pollen has been and still is so high here, so at least it's a good time to test this out. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

04-20-2009, 04:10 PM	#40
Nellye56 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Point, GA, USA Posts: 51	Heading into week 4- Still looking good Greetings, Roxy is heading into week 4 of Moducare. Her eyes are still clear and still no more intense scratching. She's been on about 1/3 capsule daily. we are going to 1/2 capsule this week. I don't know if this has anything to do with the moducare, but her "heels" on her rear feet used to be red and scaly- now they are normal again and hair is growing on them again. Perhaps the redness came from her constantly bumping her foot on the floor/or whatever when she was scratching so intensely. Who knows, I am just soooo glad that she seems to be getting better and better.

04-21-2009, 02:34 PM	#41
linda44 Luv my 7 Furkids Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: napa Posts: 9,655 Blog Entries: 4	ok it seems to be working right? So tell me the name and where to get it, dose and all that again please? Between my Suki who scratches all year and makes sores, and Dakota who doesnt scratch much but whose eyes are gunky, and feet scaley. Im ready to give it a shot. I sure appreciate you guys sharing the results. __________________ Linda, & furbutts http://www.sketchesbybarney.com

04-22-2009, 04:51 PM	#42
Nellye56 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Point, GA, USA Posts: 51	Moducare info Greetings, I got my moducare off Ebay, I believe it's also available at iHerb.com. I paid about $20.00/free shipping for a sealed bottle of 90 vegetarian capsules. I looked and the person I got mine from isn't listed- so I would make someone an offer of $20.00 and see what happens if the price is over $20.00. I am now giving Roxy about 1/2 capsule daily in peanut butter. I started out with 1/4 capsule. Wylie's mom talked with the company and they advised we could give 1/2 capsule. I only missed about 2 days since I started giving it to her on March 30th.

05-04-2009, 06:12 PM	#43
Nellye56 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: East Point, GA, USA Posts: 51	Suspended Moducare for a few days Roxy had been on Moducare- the plant sterol for almost a month. The results looked very promising. Then I took her to be groomed and now her eyes are running, she is scratching and chewing her paws. I have checked for everything. I suspect the groomer did not use the shampoo I bring this time. Also, I increased the Moducare to 1/2 capsule daily about the same time. Not sure if it was too much. She has never been quite this bad. I started her on Benadryl two days ago- it helps her sleep but that's about all. Otherwise she is still active, eating and pooping!