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Old 03-03-2009, 11:25 AM   #1
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I don't come on the internet very often but it's raining today so i'm bored.
Anyway in the wild flesh eating animals like wild dogs,lions bears and so on when they eat their prey will always eat the stomach contents which constists of what the animal just ate such as grass and grains,fruits,vegetables and so on.So anyway while dogs are considered flesh eaters they need some vegetable matter as well that is why i would never feed a grain free food as long as it's not used mainly as fillers and is a healthy type of grain.
When i was a kid i used to stay part of the summers with my uncle who was a sheep farmer he always had a problem with wild dogs killing his sheep.When we found a carcass alot of times some flesh would be left but always the stomach and contents would be eaten and his sheep would be fed corn to get them ready for market.
Also when a wild animal such a fox kills a chicken or wild turkey and take it back to the den for the pups to eat they eat the whole animal including the feathers beak and feet, what most people don't understand is feathers, beaks and feet has protein and other needed minerals so it's not a bad thing if companies include some of this in there foods.

Dog food companies that claim human grade foods and charge a high dollar amount for there foods can claim humane grade because it is foods that butchers remove from animals that are being prepared for sell to grocery stores that humans won't eat and some gross stuff that my vet told me that i won't go into.
Anyway i think pet food companies are really taking advanage of people with their marketing strategizes and claims and people are eating it up.
I feed my dogs a medium grade dog food they are doing great on it and they like it so i'm happy and their happy and healthy so that's what matters to me.
The only way to know for sure what your feeding your dogs is preparing the food yourself which is one reason so many people are starting to turn away from commericial dog foods and cooking for their dogs or going to a raw diet.
I'm still learning about it so i'm not ready to try it yet.

As you can see i'm really bored today!!!
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That is actually very interesting because I was originally against the idea of 'cheap food' - that that contains feathers and crushed bones and whatever else (apparently most of it wasn't even meat) after I found all this out on the PETA website. But this has made me think that, yeah in the wild they eat the whole carcass in most cases, guts and all :S and they manage to survive. Even so, my Yorkie doesn't touch this canned stuff and will only eat whatever's most expensive! Fussy girl! xXx
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Since you are really bored today go read and find out what is in by-products of low grade dog food. It will scare you. I believe in feeding my animals human grade food so I know it is not full of diseased animals or vaccinated dead animals.

There is tons of good information out on the internet about feeding your animal and I believe a dog will live longer if we feed and take care of it like a human being.
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Since you are really bored today go read and find out what is in by-products of low grade dog food. It will scare you. I believe in feeding my animals human grade food so I know it is not full of diseased animals or vaccinated dead animals.

There is tons of good information out on the internet about feeding your animal and I believe a dog will live longer if we feed and take care of it like a human being.
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Wow...you will def get a lot of responses. Have to let you know, by-products are DISGUSTING...not just discarded parts but, dead animals, decayed animals etc. Also, my trainer actually showed me a dog food label that had anti-freeze in it which was sold at petsmart and was not very cheap!! It's crazy!! Also, why would I now feed my dog human-grade dog food when it costs almost the same as lower quality foods?? Why would I ever risk it?? My pup is on EVO and it is not the cheapest, not the most expensive but I know it is good stuff & my dog is thriving.
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Wow...you will def get a lot of responses. Have to let you know, by-products are DISGUSTING...not just discarded parts but, dead animals, decayed animals etc. Also, my trainer actually showed me a dog food label that had anti-freeze in it which was sold at petsmart and was not very cheap!! It's crazy!! Also, why would I now feed my dog human-grade dog food when it costs almost the same as lower quality foods?? Why would I ever risk it?? My pup is on EVO and it is not the cheapest, not the most expensive but I know it is good stuff & my dog is thriving.
What dog food has anti-freeze in it...it will kill a dog!
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I tend to agree with some of your points. "Human grade" has a broad definition. Evidently the wheat gluten that was recalled in the massive recall of 2007 was fit for human consumption. So, we just don't know...

I, however, prefer to know exactly what Ellie is eating and I would prefer that she does not eat feathers (even if only one or two were left behind in good processing practices) and certain preservatives like ethoxyquin.

There is no proof anywhere that dogs need grains. They need nutrients and calories...not ingredients.

Some of the "higher quality" food doesn't work for some dogs. Sometimes the fat or protein content is blamed but it could also be individual sensitivity to ingredients.






As for the antifreeze in dog food, can you post the brand? Are you sure it diddn't say propylene glycol? That is a common ingredient and is not the same as ethylene glycol.
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It was the propylene glycol, and I see that it is a proven safe food additive but has been linked to antifreeze. YIKES...SCARY!! 2 brands had it in it:
Kibbles N Bits
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I dont care if dogs in the wild ate feathers and beaks and feet. I dont want mine eating it. They arent wild dogs
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I dont care if dogs in the wild ate feathers and beaks and feet. I dont want mine eating it. They arent wild dogs
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I dont care if dogs in the wild ate feathers and beaks and feet. I dont want mine eating it. They arent wild dogs
Ellie kisses my face, so brains and intestines will not be on the menu if I can help it.
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Along with those beaks and feet there can be other things. This vet explained it well enough for me, to forever change my mind about most commercial pet foods. If you're still bored, take a look.

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Along with those beaks and feet there can be other things. This vet explained it well enough for me, to forever change my mind about most commercial pet foods. If you're still bored, take a look.

YouTube - What's REALLY in Your Pet's Food!!
Thanks for the video. That is disturbing and alarming
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OMG! That's disgusting!
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Oh wow...that video...wow. Thank you for sharing..I'm sending it to all my dog lover friends!!!
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