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Ellie May · 02-19-2009, 03:08 AM

Some dogs have bad breath for no good reason but does he have retained baby teeth? But yes, liver disease can cause bad breath.

drabinowitz43 · 02-19-2009, 05:16 AM

Yes, he has retained baby teeth and was supposed to have 4 pulled when he was neutered. You are so helpful, thank you.

Ellie May · 02-19-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

Yes, he has retained baby teeth and was supposed to have 4 pulled when he was neutered. You are so helpful, thank you.

That is probably the problem then.

I think when it is related to liver disease, it is toxins building up

MyFairLacy · 02-19-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

Some dogs have bad breath for no good reason but does he have retained baby teeth? But yes, liver disease can cause bad breath.

I don't know why I didn't think of that. Yes, retained baby teeth really cause the breath to smell

wemple2 · 02-21-2009, 06:06 PM

How is his kidney function? I'm sure the vet did a BUN & creatinine level on the pre-op test. Bad breath is also associated with kidney disease. Just thought I'd mention it...I hope and pray that everything turns out just fine.

drabinowitz43 · 02-21-2009, 10:28 PM

Thank you. The vet said all his other bloodwork came back normal. He is having the Protein C bloodwork on Monday and on March 5th he is seeing the internist and possibly radiologist for an ultrasound. Thank goodness, he continues to act happy, alert, active, great appetite. Sometimes I think it's all a bad dream.

AbbysMom08 · 02-22-2009, 12:21 AM

I'll keep you and your little guy in my thoughts and prayers and hope everything turns out fine.

drabinowitz43 · 02-22-2009, 08:53 AM

Thank you so much.

TLC · 02-22-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

Thank you. The vet said all his other bloodwork came back normal. He is having the Protein C bloodwork on Monday and on March 5th he is seeing the internist and possibly radiologist for an ultrasound. Thank goodness, he continues to act happy, alert, active, great appetite. Sometimes I think it's all a bad dream.

I think that's a good plan. If I had to guess, he probably has 'Mild MVD' - which is easily treatable with a low protein diet and supplements to aid his liver. And we can help guide you with all that too

drabinowitz43 · 02-22-2009, 09:25 AM

Thank you TLC, I always feel good hearing from you. There are two yahoo groups I found. One with a picture of Dr. Senter and the other with a pic of a pug. Which one is yours? Will my other Yorkie be able to eat the same kibble as Joey cuz they free feed.

Ellie May · 02-22-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

Thank you TLC, I always feel good hearing from you. There are two yahoo groups I found. One with a picture of Dr. Senter and the other with a pic of a pug. Which one is yours? Will my other Yorkie be able to eat the same kibble as Joey cuz they free feed.

A healthy dog should not eat food prescribed for a liver compromised dog because of the protein restriction. They could share if the liver compromised Yorkie is healthy enough to eat something like Natural Balance Vegetarian or you could possibly give the healthy dog extra protein. I would feed different foods entirely.

Liver compromised dogs should not really be allowed to free feed because they may eat too much at one time and have to process too much protein. They should be fed 4-6 times a day but if the dog is asymptomatic, you could get away with less and a slightly higher protein food.

TLC · 02-22-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by drabinowitz43

Thank you TLC, I always feel good hearing from you. There are two yahoo groups I found. One with a picture of Dr. Senter and the other with a pic of a pug. Which one is yours? Will my other Yorkie be able to eat the same kibble as Joey cuz they free feed.

I am active on the Dog Liver Disease (with the pug) and that group actively follows and researches Dr. Center with Cornell University.

If the results show that Joey has mild MVD and he remains asystematic, then you can probably feed him a low protein kibble. Natural Balance Veggie formula or another brand's formula for Seniors. And then you can feed both dogs the same.

drabinowitz43 · 02-22-2009, 10:17 AM

I may be getting ahead of myself but I am hearing a lot about Royal Canin LS Hepatic.... I am not sure of the exact label. Would that be okay for Sadie, if I supplemented her with extra protein. Also, when I say free feed, I set out a bowl of food in the am and one in the evening. I don't keep refilling it, but both dogs graze on it throughout the day, Joey never eats a lot at one time, Sadie is more of a scarfer.

02-19-2009, 03:08 AM	#31
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02-19-2009, 05:16 AM	#32
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02-21-2009, 06:06 PM	#35
wemple2 Wee Winston Wiggles Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kewanee, Illinois Posts: 9,666	How is his kidney function? I'm sure the vet did a BUN & creatinine level on the pre-op test. Bad breath is also associated with kidney disease. Just thought I'd mention it...I hope and pray that everything turns out just fine. __________________ As Ever, Kathy Intruducing Bentley Winston and Spencer: RIP My Sweet Angels

02-21-2009, 10:28 PM	#36
drabinowitz43 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 490	Thank you. The vet said all his other bloodwork came back normal. He is having the Protein C bloodwork on Monday and on March 5th he is seeing the internist and possibly radiologist for an ultrasound. Thank goodness, he continues to act happy, alert, active, great appetite. Sometimes I think it's all a bad dream. __________________ Donna, Sadie, Joey and Nicky (and Buddy the cockatiel)

02-22-2009, 08:53 AM	#38
drabinowitz43 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 490	Thank you so much. __________________ Donna, Sadie, Joey and Nicky (and Buddy the cockatiel)

02-22-2009, 12:21 AM	#37
AbbysMom08 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,268	I'll keep you and your little guy in my thoughts and prayers and hope everything turns out fine.

02-22-2009, 09:25 AM	#40
drabinowitz43 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 490	Thank you TLC, I always feel good hearing from you. There are two yahoo groups I found. One with a picture of Dr. Senter and the other with a pic of a pug. Which one is yours? Will my other Yorkie be able to eat the same kibble as Joey cuz they free feed. __________________ Donna, Sadie, Joey and Nicky (and Buddy the cockatiel)

02-22-2009, 10:17 AM	#43
drabinowitz43 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New York Posts: 490	I may be getting ahead of myself but I am hearing a lot about Royal Canin LS Hepatic.... I am not sure of the exact label. Would that be okay for Sadie, if I supplemented her with extra protein. Also, when I say free feed, I set out a bowl of food in the am and one in the evening. I don't keep refilling it, but both dogs graze on it throughout the day, Joey never eats a lot at one time, Sadie is more of a scarfer. __________________ Donna, Sadie, Joey and Nicky (and Buddy the cockatiel)