Loyall Dog food made by Nutrena

[jexxie]

So, I went to the local farm store here and they were giving out tons of samples of a new dog food called loyal.I snatched several bags of the puppy formula and brought it home and they all love it! I have been feeding my pups science diet small bites puppy because its little, but this Loyall is even tinier than the science diet! Heck, the cats were even trying to eat it and they are picky eaters. I went to the website and there are some FAQ's and it seems to be good food. I also read several reviews and found that some kennels/dog boarding places have switched exclusively to this brand. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about or have you ever used it? Is it good?

[pnkcandle9]

i am so glad to see that someone else has heard of this stuff! I snatched a couple free bags also the other day... my little girl LOVES it. I'm just really curious of what others think. She was getting the puppy version of chicken soup for the dog lovers soul, but now i've gotten her the adult version and she won't eat it, so i put the loyall with it and she loves it!! hopefully this thread gets around so we can find out what others think! :-)

[tinkerbell231]

I went looking for a better dog food when i got max. He did not have many teeth and I was concerned he was not getting enough to eat. The lady who Opened the feed store in my home town recomened loyall. She had tryed it and said even her yorkie liked it. They are a family with big and little dogs and she said all of the dogs liked it. she also said that they we all eating less. So I tryed it and all of my dogs and even my cats seem to like it. She also said she had done alot of reserch on the enternet befor she decieded to carry it

[hugz4all4]

My local feed store carries it too. I tried over a year or so ago and my dogs ate it for alittle while then stopped. Im glad that you found something that your dogs will eat!!

[viviansnickers]

I just checked this food out on their website and I have to tell you, this is not a good quality high quality ingredients list. First and foremost the 1st ingredient is BY PRODUCTS. Then there is whole corn, wheat, and beet pulp in this it as well. ALL RED FLAGS. I would NOT feed my dog this food, but please do not take my post offensive, if you feel like this food is for your dog, then definitely feed it. I have been researching foods since the day I got my Snickers and his health is am important to me as my own health.

This is what is in the Adult Maintanance Formula:

NGREDIENTS


Poultry by-product meal (natural source of glucosamine and omega-6
fatty acids), whole corn, brewers rice, poultry fat (naturally preserved
with mixed tocopherols), whole wheat, beet pulp, natural chicken
flavoring, flaxseed (natural source of omega-3 fatty acids), spray-dried
egg, aspergillus meal (natural source of glucosamine), bentonite,
potassium chloride, calcium carbonate, menhaden fishmeal (natural
source of glucosamine), salt, sodium hexametaphosphate, calcium
propionate (a preservative), dried brewers yeast, yucca schidigera
extract, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, vitamin A supplement, vitamin
D3 supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, niacin supplement, riboflavin
supplement, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, biotin,
thiamine, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, folic acid), minerals
(zinc amino acid complex, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, iron amino acid
complex, copper sulfate, manganese amino acid complex, manganese
sulfate, ethylenediamine dihyroiodide, sodium selenite)

[jexxie]

My outdoor cat is always eating the Loyal dog food..lol.. anyway, I know the first ingredient is by product, but if you go to their website there is an FAQ from a person that works there and he tells you why their food is good even though it was made from by product. Not saying this makes everything ok, but you should check it out. Thanks.

[xoxodoglover89]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

I just checked this food out on their website and I have to tell you, this is not a good quality high quality ingredients list. First and foremost the 1st ingredient is BY PRODUCTS. Then there is whole corn, wheat, and beet pulp in this it as well. ALL RED FLAGS. I would NOT feed my dog this food, but please do not take my post offensive, if you feel like this food is for your dog, then definitely feed it. I have been researching foods since the day I got my Snickers and his health is am important to me as my own health.

This is what is in the Adult Maintanance Formula:

NGREDIENTS


Poultry by-product meal (natural source of glucosamine and omega-6
fatty acids), whole corn, brewers rice, poultry fat (naturally preserved
with mixed tocopherols), whole wheat, beet pulp, natural chicken
flavoring, flaxseed (natural source of omega-3 fatty acids), spray-dried
egg, aspergillus meal (natural source of glucosamine), bentonite,
potassium chloride, calcium carbonate, menhaden fishmeal (natural
source of glucosamine), salt, sodium hexametaphosphate, calcium
propionate (a preservative), dried brewers yeast, yucca schidigera
extract, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, vitamin A supplement, vitamin
D3 supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, niacin supplement, riboflavin
supplement, calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, biotin,
thiamine, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, folic acid), minerals
(zinc amino acid complex, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, iron amino acid
complex, copper sulfate, manganese amino acid complex, manganese
sulfate, ethylenediamine dihyroiodide, sodium selenite)

I'm the same way. I have nothing against anyone feeding their dogs food with those type of ingredients in it. Some people just prefer it and their dogs do really well on it. I'm a food nut as well ever since I joined this site, so I do look for foods without by-products, corn, etc. I personally wouldn't use this food either, but it's good to hear that your baby likes this food!

[rockstar1]

I am a professional Field Trialer. I Run in the BDC and UFTA circuits. I have finished 10 at the UFTA Nationals and been ranked as high as 13 in the BDC. I feed loyall and have for over a year. I had previously tried almost everything on the market and couldn't find anything to keep weight on my dogs I ran them so much. I am feeding half to two thirds of what I was feeding on everything else and my dogs are maintaining weight and look healthy. This is the best food on the market in my opinion. My dogs have more energy. They go o the bathroom less which tells me htey are absorbing the nutrients in it and there stool is solid instead of runny. I have seen an older dog that couldn't hunt anymore because of arthritis switched to this food and since that time he now being hunted again and sometime all day long. That is how good this food is. What makes it so much better than any other food is there opti cook system. This system guarantees taht every batch is cooked the same and cooked just right so your dog is able to obsorb the nutrients. I am impressed with this food and will never switch.

[amandawash]

It is all personal preference about what you choose to feed your baby, but it does pay to be informed. You can do some research about poultry by-products and animal by-products in general and decide if you want to keep feeding it to your little one. I would also be nervous about the whole corn, as corn is such an inflammatory, it tends to make more pups than not very itchy. Many develop allergies and intolerance to corn and wheat. That said, if you like it and are happy with it, go for it.

Oh, and I am totally not against Nutrena. I feed my horses who are high-level athletes their concentrates from the Nutrena line, and I have been extremely happy with it.

[rockstar1]

Just to let you know, whole corn is not listed on the ingredients for Loyall 26/19 or the 31/20 as stated on this forum. I have a friend that is an Ag Major, he has shown me that chicken has more water then the chicken by product. Even though a bag of pet food has chicken listed at number 1, you are paying for the first indredient to be water not something your pet can get anything from. The reason to worry about whole corn in a dog food is that the non TDN from corn can get bound up in their kidneys cause kidney failure. This comes from a friend that had a dog on a major leading pet food company that had this problem. We believe the Loyall is one of the best out there, and they have done the research on the pet feeds that they are producing. The ingredients they have are all for specific reasons and not just as fillers. As an example, the chicken by product used is for natural sources of Glucosamine and Omega 6 fatty acids. They do not use the man made Glucosamine product in this feed that they themselves produce and sell to everyone else.

[viviansnickers]

Just chicken being the 1st ingredient and being mainly water is true. That is why many top manufactures use chicken MEAL as their 1st ingredient where all that water is removed. Chicken MEAL and any protein MEAL is what is key to look for and has all the glucosamin and essentials in it. BY PRODUCTS= disregarded NON-HUMAN grade parts, can include, anything for diseased animal parts, dogs, cats, rotting parts etc.

WIKIPEDIA:
Animal by-products are biodegradable wastes consisting of animal carcases, parts of animal carcases, products of animal origin which are not intended for human consumption, includes catering waste (all waste food from restaurants, catering facilities, central kitchens, slaughterhouses and household kitchens).

A by-product is a secondary or incidental product deriving from a manufacturing process, a chemical reaction or a biochemical pathway, and is not the primary product or service being produced. A by-product can be useful and marketable, or it can have negative ecological impact.

[edit] Animal sources
[LIST][*]dried blood and blood meal - from slaughterhouse operations[*]chicken by-product meal - clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines.[*]chrome shavings - from a stage of leather manufacture[*]collagen and gelatin - from the boiled skin and other parts of slaughtered livestock[*]feathers - from poultry processing[LIST][*]feather meal - from poultry processing[/LIST][*]lanolin - from the cleaning of wool[*]manure - from animal husbandry[*]meat and bone meal - from the rendering of animal bones and offal[*]poultry byproduct and poultry meal - made from unmarketable poultry bones and offal[*]poultry litter - swept from the floors of chicken coops[*]whey - from cheese manufacturing[*]fetal pigs[/LIST]

[MaddiesMommie]

Chicken may have more water in it than chicken by-product but ANYTHING can be in chicken by-product. Byproducts consist of anything BUT the quality cuts of meat and highest quality edible offal used for human consumption.
I know how difficult it is to find a food for your furbaby. They definetly recieve the pickiest eater award . You finally have to decide what is right for YOU and YOURS.
I would suggest you research quality ingredients and ingredients to avoid. This will help you decide what YOU think is healthy for your Yorkie. I like to review websites for companies but keep in mind they are trying to sell thier product. I have refered to the website THE DOG FOOD PROJECT at The Dog Food Project - Identifying better products many times in my continual search for quality food for Maddie.

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

Just chicken being the 1st ingredient and being mainly water is true. That is why many top manufactures use chicken MEAL as their 1st ingredient where all that water is removed. Chicken MEAL and any protein MEAL is what is key to look for and has all the glucosamin and essentials in it. BY PRODUCTS= disregarded NON-HUMAN grade parts, can include, anything for diseased animal parts, dogs, cats, rotting parts etc.

WIKIPEDIA:
Animal by-products are biodegradable wastes consisting of animal carcases, parts of animal carcases, products of animal origin which are not intended for human consumption, includes catering waste (all waste food from restaurants, catering facilities, central kitchens, slaughterhouses and household kitchens).



A by-product is a secondary or incidental product deriving from a manufacturing process, a chemical reaction or a biochemical pathway, and is not the primary product or service being produced. A by-product can be useful and marketable, or it can have negative ecological impact.

[edit] Animal sources[LIST][*]dried blood and blood meal - from slaughterhouse operations[*]chicken by-product meal - clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines.[*]chrome shavings - from a stage of leather manufacture[*]collagen and gelatin - from the boiled skin and other parts of slaughtered livestock[*]feathers - from poultry processing[LIST][*]feather meal - from poultry processing[/LIST][*]lanolin - from the cleaning of wool[*]manure - from animal husbandry[*]meat and bone meal - from the rendering of animal bones and offal[*]poultry byproduct and poultry meal - made from unmarketable poultry bones and offal[*]poultry litter - swept from the floors of chicken coops[*]whey - from cheese manufacturing[*]fetal pigs[/LIST]

I also did some research on this.

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

Just chicken being the 1st ingredient and being mainly water is true. That is why many top manufactures use chicken MEAL as their 1st ingredient where all that water is removed. Chicken MEAL and any protein MEAL is what is key to look for and has all the glucosamin and essentials in it. BY PRODUCTS= disregarded NON-HUMAN grade parts, can include, anything for diseased animal parts, dogs, cats, rotting parts etc.

WIKIPEDIA:
Animal by-products are biodegradable wastes consisting of animal carcases, parts of animal carcases, products of animal origin which are not intended for human consumption, includes catering waste (all waste food from restaurants, catering facilities, central kitchens, slaughterhouses and household kitchens).

A by-product is a secondary or incidental product deriving from a manufacturing process, a chemical reaction or a biochemical pathway, and is not the primary product or service being produced. A by-product can be useful and marketable, or it can have negative ecological impact.

[edit] Animal sources[LIST][*]dried blood and blood meal - from slaughterhouse operations[*]chicken by-product meal - clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines.[*]chrome shavings - from a stage of leather manufacture[*]collagen and gelatin - from the boiled skin and other parts of slaughtered livestock[*]feathers - from poultry processing[LIST][*]feather meal - from poultry processing[/LIST][*]lanolin - from the cleaning of wool[*]manure - from animal husbandry[*]meat and bone meal - from the rendering of animal bones and offal[*]poultry byproduct and poultry meal - made from unmarketable poultry bones and offal[*]poultry litter - swept from the floors of chicken coops[*]whey - from cheese manufacturing[*]fetal pigs[/LIST]

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

Just chicken being the 1st ingredient and being mainly water is true. That is why many top manufactures use chicken MEAL as their 1st ingredient where all that water is removed. Chicken MEAL and any protein MEAL is what is key to look for and has all the glucosamin and essentials in it. BY PRODUCTS= disregarded NON-HUMAN grade parts, can include, anything for diseased animal parts, dogs, cats, rotting parts etc.

WIKIPEDIA:
Animal by-products are biodegradable wastes consisting of animal carcases, parts of animal carcases, products of animal origin which are not intended for human consumption, includes catering waste (all waste food from restaurants, catering facilities, central kitchens, slaughterhouses and household kitchens).

A by-product is a secondary or incidental product deriving from a manufacturing process, a chemical reaction or a biochemical pathway, and is not the primary product or service being produced. A by-product can be useful and marketable, or it can have negative ecological impact.

[edit] Animal sources[LIST][*]dried blood and blood meal - from slaughterhouse operations[*]chicken by-product meal - clean parts of the carcass of slaughtered chicken, such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, and intestines.[*]chrome shavings - from a stage of leather manufacture[*]collagen and gelatin - from the boiled skin and other parts of slaughtered livestock[*]feathers - from poultry processing[LIST][*]feather meal - from poultry processing[/LIST][*]lanolin - from the cleaning of wool[*]manure - from animal husbandry[*]meat and bone meal - from the rendering of animal bones and offal[*]poultry byproduct and poultry meal - made from unmarketable poultry bones and offal[*]poultry litter - swept from the floors of chicken coops[*]whey - from cheese manufacturing[*]fetal pigs[/LIST]