Another Teeth Question

[veggienut]

I got Maxwell when he was 10 weeks old & now he is over a year old now. I've never had a dog and he was my mid-life crisis. I have learned along the way of so much. I have taken him to puppy classes back in January of this year and a trick class this summer. He's very smart and catches on a lot to new tricks. Now if I can get him to talk For a long time, I was concern with his health, but his eating habits. I have tried 8+ different types of foods and found out he's a picky eater. Now he eats and does love "Royal Canine", but lately he's picking at it and only eats around 10p. Maybe he's eating what's in the grass or my neighbor is giving him something. I have seen that happen once. Then my friends kidded me that since he did eat the rabbit he killed, maybe he needed some real meat. I am vegetarian and don't eat meat at all. Maxwell loves carrots, but not all the time. He's not really fond of celery or lettuce from what I have seen.

I have seen too much to happen in the hospital to take advise from a doctor. Not all doctors, but some of them and/or their advise. I did research on dogs in general and what would be best for me, as well as my neighbor. I didn't want a dog attacking the little kids next door....as I told their Mom recently. It happened to me as a kid and almost had to get rabies shots.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by veggienut

I got Maxwell when he was 10 weeks old & now he is over a year old now. I've never had a dog and he was my mid-life crisis. I have learned along the way of so much. I have taken him to puppy classes back in January of this year and a trick class this summer. He's very smart and catches on a lot to new tricks. Now if I can get him to talk For a long time, I was concern with his health, but his eating habits. I have tried 8+ different types of foods and found out he's a picky eater. Now he eats and does love "Royal Canine", but lately he's picking at it and only eats around 10p. Maybe he's eating what's in the grass or my neighbor is giving him something. I have seen that happen once. Then my friends kidded me that since he did eat the rabbit he killed, maybe he needed some real meat. I am vegetarian and don't eat meat at all. Maxwell loves carrots, but not all the time. He's not really fond of celery or lettuce from what I have seen.

I have seen too much to happen in the hospital to take advise from a doctor. Not all doctors, but some of them and/or their advise. I did research on dogs in general and what would be best for me, as well as my neighbor. I didn't want a dog attacking the little kids next door....as I told their Mom recently. It happened to me as a kid and almost had to get rabies shots.

Just a thought but maybe the fact that he has double teeth is the reason he is not eating well? Yorkies have small mouths and many times they have difficulty in eating kibbles because of this. Add to this that he has many doubt teeth that would only IMO (*in my opinion) cause issues with his ability to eat.

I have also worked in hospitals for many years. What I have learned is that if you believe that you are not receiving the proper advice from your current doctor (vet) that you seek a second opinion. If you are concerned with the second opinion then go for a third. If you are still receiving the same advice then it can reasonably be asumed that it is the current school of thought on your issue. Other then the advice you have received from the Petsmart employee and your fellow YTers have you been to another vet for a second opinion on his teeth?

[veggienut]

Maxwell eats fine without any issues. I've watched him eat and he eats well. He doesn't look like he is having pain when eating, is what I mean. He ate a small amound of the sample food bag, "Holistic Select" a while ago. He does well with hard treats too. When I went to get another opinion on his food earlier this year from another Vet, they gave me samples of "Science Diet" and he really didn't like that. From there, I found "Royal Canine" and he gobbled it up. They also told me at the other Vet about doing surgery on double teeth & neutering him and they wanted to keep him. I couldn't do that and had to think about it I told them. They also wanted to keep him for a few days and get him eating. I couldn't do that either.

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I am very confused at your post regarding your puppy's teeth. I checked back through many of your previous posts to see if I could get a better feel for your pup.
What I have learned is that you brougth him home when he was about 8 wks old, he is about 5 months old now. Please forgive me if I have misread your previous posts but it seems that you are concerned for his health, have taken him to the vet after he chased and killed a rabbit in your yard, want to feed a high quality food to assure that he has proper nutrition, are concerned with his teeth. Most puzzling is that you are a NURSE. I too work in the medical field and take the advice of my human doctors very seriously. Why would you then doubt what your vet has told me regarding your pups oral health? For this reason alone I would think you would understand how teeth can affect the health of pets and people. Prior to purchasing your yorkie did you do research on possible issues like double teeth, dental health in yorkies, spay and neuter for your pets health? Two of three of mine retained at least one tooth that were removed when they were neutered. A responsible pet owner takes every precaution to ensure that their pets health is maintained and preventative vet care is given. I personally live by the motto it is better to be proactive than reactive. If you visit the vet for advice on your pets health, why do you doubt his advice when it comes to something as important as double teeth in your pup?

What a great post!

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by veggienut

Maxwell eats fine without any issues. I've watched him eat and he eats well. He doesn't look like he is having pain when eating, is what I mean. He ate a small amound of the sample food bag, "Holistic Select" a while ago. He does well with hard treats too. When I went to get another opinion on his food earlier this year from another Vet, they gave me samples of "Science Diet" and he really didn't like that. From there, I found "Royal Canine" and he gobbled it up. They also told me at the other Vet about doing surgery on double teeth & neutering him and they wanted to keep him. I couldn't do that and had to think about it I told them. They also wanted to keep him for a few days and get him eating. I couldn't do that either.

Taking what you have said above into consideration, I am not sure how you expect to get any different advice from this forum. If 2 different vets have told you that his teeth need to be removed, you work in the medical field and you have chosen not to address this it seems that you have already decided to not take the advice that has been given to you. Furthermore, he must have a serious issue with his ability or desire to eat if you are now saying that two different vets wanted to keep him. Isn't this telling you something, yet you chose to ignore the advice they give and think about it. IMO there isn't anything more to think about.

I have nothing more to offer you since advice is not what you are seeking.

[veggienut]

He's eating fine as I have recently mentioned. He just ate awhile ago 3/4's of his "Royal Canine" food and now is much on a nylabone, which is hard. I don't wish to address this subject anymore.

[chloesMama]

Chloe is 8 months old and also has some double teeth (around four I believe?) I am very worried about her going in for her spay and teeth removal , she is only 2.5 lbs. and like you , I know what can go wrong. BUT I feel I need to do what is in her best interest ....not only for right now but for her future health.

I know all about fear , believe me I have lost a lot of people tragically , just about every member of my family , so I get it ...but FEAR puts a stop to rational thinking. You are afraid of what can happen right now if you do this , but you are not looking at what most likely will happen down the road if this is left untreated.

Ultimately it is your decision , and I am not here to give you anything other than my own opinion ...but I feel if you take the fear away and look at it from all sides , you may see that it would be best to get it done , even if it means taking that chance.



I must have been typing as you posted ...if you no longer want advice ....just ignore this.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by veggienut

He's eating fine as I have recently mentioned. He just ate awhile ago 3/4's of his "Royal Canine" food and now is much on a nylabone, which is hard. I don't wish to address this subject anymore.

Of course you don't!

[jmdt]

What I don't get is if your supposed to get them "fixed" before their first heat then how do you know that they will have a double row of teeth and that they won't come out on their own. My little girl got spayed at 6mo. but no one said anything about her double row of teeth. Now I don't want to have her put out again.

COCO PEBBLES TRIXIE

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by jmdt

What I don't get is if your supposed to get them "fixed" before their first heat then how do you know that they will have a double row of teeth and that they won't come out on their own. My little girl got spayed at 6mo. but no one said anything about her double row of teeth. Now I don't want to have her put out again.

COCO PEBBLES TRIXIE

Franklin got neutered at 7 months and the vet told us they needed to be pulled. The vet should have discussed it with you. 6-7 months is long enough for them to start falling out on their own.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jmdt

What I don't get is if your supposed to get them "fixed" before their first heat then how do you know that they will have a double row of teeth and that they won't come out on their own. My little girl got spayed at 6mo. but no one said anything about her double row of teeth. Now I don't want to have her put out again.

COCO PEBBLES TRIXIE

I agree that the vet should have noticed. Mine actually removes them routinely during spay and neuters...and she does not charge for it. There are some things that I expect from vets. Number one is a thorough exam and one that fits the breed. For example...check teeth on yorkies and knees at every exam. If mine did not do that, I would go to another. Just my thoughts!

[jmdt]

Wow, thanks for the advice. I will wait until she turns 1 then if they are not out I will have them removed. Hate to put her under again but if she needs it then she needs it. My Coco's second row also was not removed at the time he was neutered but thankfully the second row came out on their own. So we will see. Now I know when I have Trixie spayed I will definatly ask about her teeth if she has a double row. She is only 4mo. and still has her cute baby teeth. Hopefully they will come out before her "big girl" teeth come in then we will have no problem.

COCO PEBBLES TRIXIE

[veggienut]

The Vet never ever brought up about his teeth from day one. I took him to get training to be a show dog earlier this year. They won't allow dogs to show if they are neutered. There at the training class is where I found out from someone that he had double-teeth. She told me that I need to talk to the Vet about it since he won't be able to show with double teeth. When I went back to the Vet, is when they checked him for his teeth.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by jmdt

Wow, thanks for the advice. I will wait until she turns 1 then if they are not out I will have them removed. Hate to put her under again but if she needs it then she needs it. My Coco's second row also was not removed at the time he was neutered but thankfully the second row came out on their own. So we will see. Now I know when I have Trixie spayed I will definatly ask about her teeth if she has a double row. She is only 4mo. and still has her cute baby teeth. Hopefully they will come out before her "big girl" teeth come in then we will have no problem.

COCO PEBBLES TRIXIE

I see you have a Pebbles too! *Sent you a PM

Back to topic~ When I brought Bogey home he had one double tooth in the back and his breath was HORRIBLE. It was removed when he was stayed and now he is kissable again.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by veggienut

The Vet never ever brought up about his teeth from day one. I took him to get training to be a show dog earlier this year. They won't allow dogs to show if they are neutered. There at the training class is where I found out from someone that he had double-teeth. She told me that I need to talk to the Vet about it since he won't be able to show with double teeth. When I went back to the Vet, is when they checked him for his teeth.

Do you have pictures of this pup?