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maxmom · 08-22-2008, 06:15 AM

Do they itch all over, or is it always the same spot? Max frequently scratches his neck, where his collar is, at first I thought fleas, then I took his collar off, thinking it was irritating his skin, you girls got me thinking now.Either way we are in the extremely slow process of switching from RC to NB potato formula.

TiaMaria · 08-23-2008, 03:29 AM

So yesterday I went to my local pet supply place and talked to the guys there about this whole food thing. They told me the best thing to do if you suspect food allergies is to switch them to a fish and potato based food...no chicken, lamb, beef, corn, wheat, or soy. They recommended Wellness - also, if the dog doesn't like the fish they said venison or duck would be okay too. They also recommended salmon oil to go with the food. They told me it to switch them over a 5 or so day period and that I wouldn't see results for about 3 weeks.

My picky yorkies loved the food - I didn't even have to hand feed them

Hopefully this does the trick - I will let everyone know.

Meanwhile we're going to try benadryl - Johnny was itching all night and kept me up!!!

Wylie's Mom · 08-23-2008, 05:02 PM

Well, I love raw

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But, if kibble is the route - I don't think Natural Balance is the *best* route. Partly bc of the protein content.

But mostly bc if allergies are really a concern, I'd choose a fish based kibble like: Wellness Core Ocean, Orijen, Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream.

cobird2 · 08-23-2008, 05:18 PM

I don't understand what you mean by the protein in NB?

Wylie's Mom · 08-23-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cobird2

I don't understand what you mean by the protein in NB?

Bc it's only 20-21%, which might not be great long term. Most average kibbles have about 28% protein content. So, trying to find one closer to that % might be healthier for your baby.

mel Vincente · 08-23-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Bc it's only 20-21%, which might not be great long term. Most average kibbles have about 28% protein content. So, trying to find one closer to that % might be healthier for your baby.

I thought Yorkies should be around 22% when they are adults and 28% if they are puppies. I read that the crude protein if to high was hard on their livers??? I believe that was in book Yorkshire terriers for Dummies. I could be wrong but I'll have to research that again.

Wylie's Mom · 08-23-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mel Vincente

I thought Yorkies should be around 22% when they are adults and 28% if they are puppies. I read that the crude protein if to high was hard on their livers??? I believe that was in book Yorkshire terriers for Dummies. I could be wrong but I'll have to research that again.

Higher protein is not hard necessarily on the liver. It is a concern when dogs have health issues already of the liver/kidney/pancreas/etcetera. Many kibbles are as high as 42%; people who feed raw feed even higher % protein. So, no - 22-28% is not the golden rule, it's just what has been marketed to us in the past, and now marketed in Yorkies for Dummies, LOL

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emilyann · 08-23-2008, 09:46 PM

I don't recommend the Natural Balance. I tried the allergy formula and Lilly still itched with it, I didn't see any change what-so-ever! I'm still on the mission for a food that doesn't cause her allergies to act up, I'm currently feeding Wellness Small Breed Super 5 Mix and it's almost as if her allergies have gotten worse

. I'm so torn.

mel Vincente · 08-24-2008, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Higher protein is not hard necessarily on the liver. It is a concern when dogs have health issues already of the liver/kidney/pancreas/etcetera. Many kibbles are as high as 42%; people who feed raw feed even higher % protein. So, no - 22-28% is not the golden rule, it's just what has been marketed to us in the past, and now marketed in Yorkies for Dummies, LOL

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Yep, I pulled the book out last night and I was going to post my correction today. It is hard on the kidneys not the liver I knew I read something with the crude levels.( my bad

) Ok so they make the dummy more of a dummy with wrong infomation. LOL

I guess you can't believe everything you read which makes it hard to know what the correct levels should be. We even have people with degrees in the field with contradicting info. Oh well I guess thats like with everything....

Missiemiss · 08-24-2008, 06:22 AM

I lost my precious Roscoe to kidney failure just last June. It still has left a hole in my heart (and my DH's).

After loosing him to kidney failure I started researching his pedigree along with the food I was feeding him. His history of health (going back to the 5th generation) was negative of kidney disease. Honestly, I was hoping it was the excuse instead of my bad choices to his health.

I then took a serious look at the food I was feeding him. The food was balanced however I wonder if the source of the proteins were good. Again, more digging and I found that I was not happy with the brand's choices of animal proteins.

Bottom line - we have to make the right decision, the right choices for our furbabies because they don't have the power to choose. I know now that my babies (aged and youth) are getting the highest quality food and treats that I can purchase. It's the least I can do for them. I do it for Roscoe, my Yorkie who died of kidney failure in June. RIP little Roscoe! Momma loves you more than bugs!

Ellie May · 08-25-2008, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by emilyann

I don't recommend the Natural Balance. I tried the allergy formula and Lilly still itched with it, I didn't see any change what-so-ever! I'm still on the mission for a food that doesn't cause her allergies to act up, I'm currently feeding Wellness Small Breed Super 5 Mix and it's almost as if her allergies have gotten worse

. I'm so torn.

How long was Lilly on Natural Balance?

I like the protein and carbs in NB for the most part for allergies but dog food is so complex that she could be reacing to who know what. Have you tried California Natural?

emilyann · 08-25-2008, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

How long was Lilly on Natural Balance?

I like the protein and carbs in NB for the most part for allergies but dog food is so complex that she could be reacing to who know what. Have you tried California Natural?

She was on it for a while, the itching wasn't as bad as it is now but you could tell it still bothered her. I'm most likely going to switch her to Wellness Core Ocean and see if it helps.

Sandysbabies · 08-25-2008, 07:06 AM

Someone mentioned Bendryl, which I do use for one of my schnauzers. The vet said if it made her sleep alot to discontinue it for awhile. I only give it to her when I have too. She also had to be put on K/D for awhile. Her last blood work came back normal and she even eats Welliness and Innovia now. I found an allergy drops you put in their water at the store where we buy their food and it also help alot.

08-22-2008, 06:15 AM	#16
maxmom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 2,307 Blog Entries: 1	Do they itch all over, or is it always the same spot? Max frequently scratches his neck, where his collar is, at first I thought fleas, then I took his collar off, thinking it was irritating his skin, you girls got me thinking now.Either way we are in the extremely slow process of switching from RC to NB potato formula. __________________ maxmom My belongs to Max and Sophie Mei

08-23-2008, 05:02 PM	#18
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08-23-2008, 05:18 PM	#19
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08-23-2008, 09:46 PM	#23
emilyann Lovin' My LilBug! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,513	I don't recommend the Natural Balance. I tried the allergy formula and Lilly still itched with it, I didn't see any change what-so-ever! I'm still on the mission for a food that doesn't cause her allergies to act up, I'm currently feeding Wellness Small Breed Super 5 Mix and it's almost as if her allergies have gotten worse . I'm so torn. __________________ love my lillybug! rags and ribbons!

08-24-2008, 06:22 AM	#25
Missiemiss Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 651	protein and Kidneys I lost my precious Roscoe to kidney failure just last June. It still has left a hole in my heart (and my DH's). After loosing him to kidney failure I started researching his pedigree along with the food I was feeding him. His history of health (going back to the 5th generation) was negative of kidney disease. Honestly, I was hoping it was the excuse instead of my bad choices to his health. I then took a serious look at the food I was feeding him. The food was balanced however I wonder if the source of the proteins were good. Again, more digging and I found that I was not happy with the brand's choices of animal proteins. Bottom line - we have to make the right decision, the right choices for our furbabies because they don't have the power to choose. I know now that my babies (aged and youth) are getting the highest quality food and treats that I can purchase. It's the least I can do for them. I do it for Roscoe, my Yorkie who died of kidney failure in June. RIP little Roscoe! Momma loves you more than bugs! __________________ Gracie Froto Blair and RIP Bear-Bear 12/31/08 & RIP Roscoe 06/12/08 Free Samples! All-Natural, High-quality Pet food for your Furbaby! http://www.trilogyonline.com/missiemiss

08-23-2008, 03:29 AM	#17
TiaMaria Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 30	So yesterday I went to my local pet supply place and talked to the guys there about this whole food thing. They told me the best thing to do if you suspect food allergies is to switch them to a fish and potato based food...no chicken, lamb, beef, corn, wheat, or soy. They recommended Wellness - also, if the dog doesn't like the fish they said venison or duck would be okay too. They also recommended salmon oil to go with the food. They told me it to switch them over a 5 or so day period and that I wouldn't see results for about 3 weeks. My picky yorkies loved the food - I didn't even have to hand feed them Hopefully this does the trick - I will let everyone know. Meanwhile we're going to try benadryl - Johnny was itching all night and kept me up!!!

08-25-2008, 07:06 AM	#28
Sandysbabies YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,234	Someone mentioned Bendryl, which I do use for one of my schnauzers. The vet said if it made her sleep alot to discontinue it for awhile. I only give it to her when I have too. She also had to be put on K/D for awhile. Her last blood work came back normal and she even eats Welliness and Innovia now. I found an allergy drops you put in their water at the store where we buy their food and it also help alot.