The Benefits Of A Prey Model Diet

[Sookie]

Originally Posted by Jad

Thank you for posting the benefits of feeding a raw diet. I agree 100%. I have just started feeding Primal chicken nuggets to my two Yorkies. age 6. One Primal chicken nugget provides 13 ounces of protein. Should I feed them 1 nugget per meal if I am adding 2T of raw veggies to their meal? They weigh 5.4 lbs each.

Jane

Just want to add my own personal experience with Primal nuggets. I have both my girls on the Primal and have for quite some time. They are doing great and I don't add anything else to their food.

Kalina weighs 6 pounds. She gets 1 oz. in the morning and 1 1/2 oz. in the evening and she is pretty solid, could probably stand to lose a few ounces. Matty, on the other hand, is 3 1/2 pounds and eats the same exact amount and she is thin. She is, however, still growing. I'm thinking metabolism has something to do with it, although both of my girls are extremely active and enjoy walks at least once a day and run in the yard quite often.

To the OP - what is the difference between feeding raw and feeding Prey model?

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

It's best to start out with chicken parts. For your Lab it should be a bigger piece. Whole chicken leg quarters. Always feed bigger than the dog's mouth. Digestive issues are sometimes unavoidable and I won't lie to you about that. The good news is, those are short lived. The dog needs to detox the old commercial diet out of his body. I highly advise you to joing the RAW support group on yahoo. I have put a link for that in one of my other posts to lilyorkiemomma. Newbies are welcomed with open arms, no questions are too small or stupid and there are many experienced prey model feeders on there willing to help! I'm also here for you off thread. You can PM me and also email me! chickendido@cox.net
I work from home on my laptop and usually reply pretty quickly! That offer goes out to anybody who wants to email me! Did you get a chance to read through some of the info posted? I don't want to run the risk of repeating things to you that you may or may not have already read....

Originally Posted by AngelWorks

How to get started and how not to cause big digestive disturbances to the older lab.

Waking up to a kitchen explosion of his digestive distress is not fun.

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

Hi Abbie's Mom,
So glad to see you here! Thank you so much for contributing to the information!

Hey So...where were you when I was begging the small breed feeders to ''come out, come out, wherever you are!" ....? LOL How long have you been a member of the egroup? It moves so fast over there, I rarely ever post. But, they are so very essential - especially for early stage jitters!

Originally Posted by AngelWorks

How to get started and how not to cause big digestive disturbances to the older lab.

Waking up to a kitchen explosion of his digestive distress is not fun.

I completely empathize, here. My senior mix is who gave me the nudge to switch to prey model. Lengthy story; but, somewhere on this thread, as I recall.

[dexterandalana]

Originally Posted by Sookie

what is the difference between feeding raw and feeding Prey model?

simply....prey model is giving, say, a chicken leg to your pup, instead of an already processed and ground up medallion for the prepackaged meals. read over the original post to see why it is more beneficial to feed prey model over the pre packaged raw. its all great info!!

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

RAW is referred to as the general idea of feeding a diet of, well, RAW foods to our pets. Primal and other similar brands are formulated to the BARF diet (biologically appropriate raw food) This diet is fed by grinding meats, bones and organs. It also adds pureed veggies/fruit and advocates supplements. The prey model method of feeding mirrors what wild dogs would be eating in the wild. Whole animal carcass, fish, eggs. No veggies/fruits or supplements. For "most" prey model feeders, it's more practical to feed animal parts aka chicken legs, pork chops,beef riblets and things of that nature than a whole carcass. But people who run a rescue for example that have multiple large dogs to feed, usually feed pretty large! I know of one guy who throws half a deer into his back yard and his 12 dogs just have a field day with this!
Not to go on a pre made diet bashing, but I COULD post the down sides/up sides to a pre made diet vs. prey model if anybody is interested?

Originally Posted by Sookie

Just want to add my own personal experience with Primal nuggets. I have both my girls on the Primal and have for quite some time. They are doing great and I don't add anything else to their food.

Kalina weighs 6 pounds. She gets 1 oz. in the morning and 1 1/2 oz. in the evening and she is pretty solid, could probably stand to lose a few ounces. Matty, on the other hand, is 3 1/2 pounds and eats the same exact amount and she is thin. She is, however, still growing. I'm thinking metabolism has something to do with it, although both of my girls are extremely active and enjoy walks at least once a day and run in the yard quite often.

To the OP - what is the difference between feeding raw and feeding Prey model?

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

LOL, I don't know
Maybe I was out, hunting or something, rofl

I've been a member over there on yahoo for over a year now and I also rarely post these days. I guess over time, the usual beginner's issues and questions go away but none the less it's still great support when needed!
I'm now mostly active on my local group and OF COURSE I'm VERY active in the supplier's and sources list! That's how I scored 10 pounds of organic goat and offal from a local source to the tune of $1.99 per pound!
We should form a prey model club on YT!!!! How would we do that???
Nadia




quote=abbie's mom;1949701]Hey So...where were you when I was begging the small breed feeders to ''come out, come out, wherever you are!" ....? LOL How long have you been a member of the egroup? It moves so fast over there, I rarely ever post.[/quote]

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

We should form a prey model club on YT!!!! How would we do that???
Nadia

Nadia ~ done. Click here.

btw, TOTALLY envious about the goat score!

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

Not to go on a pre made diet bashing, but I COULD post the down sides/up sides to a pre made diet vs. prey model if anybody is interested?

ummmm....yeah. Jane did that, here.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Wow, I'm impressed!!!!
I'm a new member now! This is just so totally cool!
Thanks, Abbie's Mom!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by abbie's mom

Nadia ~ done. Click here.

btw, TOTALLY envious about the goat score!

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

LOL, yep yep yep, don't I know this site like the bottom of my shoe! VERY good link to post btw., I'm hoping that more members read it and "maybe" chose to re-decide or to re-think pre-made! However, I still feel that it's a good way to get started, sort of like a layover to prey model town!

Originally Posted by abbie's mom

ummmm....yeah. Jane did that, here.

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

LOL, yep yep yep, don't I know this site like the bottom of my shoe! VERY good link to post btw., I'm hoping that more members read it and "maybe" chose to re-decide or to re-think pre-made! However, I still feel that it's a good way to get started, sort of like a layover to prey model town!

Yes...well, certainly a step up and away from k*bble!

[Sookie]

Originally Posted by RawfedYorkieLuv

RAW is referred to as the general idea of feeding a diet of, well, RAW foods to our pets. Primal and other similar brands are formulated to the BARF diet (biologically appropriate raw food) This diet is fed by grinding meats, bones and organs. It also adds pureed veggies/fruit and advocates supplements. The prey model method of feeding mirrors what wild dogs would be eating in the wild. Whole animal carcass, fish, eggs. No veggies/fruits or supplements. For "most" prey model feeders, it's more practical to feed animal parts aka chicken legs, pork chops,beef riblets and things of that nature than a whole carcass. But people who run a rescue for example that have multiple large dogs to feed, usually feed pretty large! I know of one guy who throws half a deer into his back yard and his 12 dogs just have a field day with this!
Not to go on a pre made diet bashing, but I COULD post the down sides/up sides to a pre made diet vs. prey model if anybody is interested?

I would definately be interested. I think it's obvious that I want what is best for my girls - hence the premade raw at least!!

I also worry about them getting enough of the nutrients, etc. that they need. I am constantly trying to expand my horizons, so to speak, with regard to feeding my girls what is best. Matty is so tiny at only 3 1/2 lbs that I would worry about feeding her certain bones. Kalina, on the other hand, can pretty much take care of herself. I think my neighbors would go nuts if I threw a deer carcass in the back yard however.

Regardless, thank you for the info. Very interesting stuff.

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

I'm rolling over here!!!!! K*bble! That reminds me of the yahoo groups, lol. K*bble is a bad word and I'm comitting myself to spell it that way here on YT, too!

Originally Posted by abbie's mom

Yes...well, certainly a step up and away from k*bble!

[tjdmom]

Originally Posted by AngelWorks

How to get started and how not to cause big digestive disturbances to the older lab.

Waking up to a kitchen explosion of his digestive distress is not fun.

I just wanted to say that my collie has always had a very sensitive tummy. I'll never forget the time we were camping with my sister and bil and he felt sorry for her so he fed her all the leftovers from breaksfast. Mostly leftover eggs. Needless to say, the tent was a mess. I've always been so careful about what I give her but decided to try this cold turkey. I'm not saying that you will have the same results but wouldn't it be nice?


Also, for you other experienced raw feeders.... I was just thinking about this, we have a camp we go to some weekends and bringing raw would probably not be feasible. What do you guys do in situations like this? Any suggestions?

[RawfedYorkieLuv]

Abby's mom posted an excellent link, here it is again;
Jane Anderson's - 10 reasons not to feed pre-made raw foods
I agree that it might be worth it to just post the pros and cons from a "personal perspective" and I shall do so later on today
Sookie, while you're on the above link, might as well check out the rest of this excellent site;
Jane Anderson's Raw Learning Site
Especially of interest is the "Boo hiss" section on the far right side of the page, highlighted in yellow.
Have fun reading!

Originally Posted by Sookie

I would definately be interested. I think it's obvious that I want what is best for my girls - hence the premade raw at least!!

I also worry about them getting enough of the nutrients, etc. that they need. I am constantly trying to expand my horizons, so to speak, with regard to feeding my girls what is best. Matty is so tiny at only 3 1/2 lbs that I would worry about feeding her certain bones. Kalina, on the other hand, can pretty much take care of herself. I think my neighbors would go nuts if I threw a deer carcass in the back yard however.

Regardless, thank you for the info. Very interesting stuff.