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11-29-2007, 07:16 PM | #1 |
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| Is Science Diet ok? Is Science Diet a good food for Yorkies? My 12 week pup seems to poop alot!!! But he weighs 5.5 lbs. already. He went from 2.5 to 5.5 in 3 weeks! I am concerned about the weight gain and his diet now.
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11-29-2007, 07:40 PM | #2 |
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| I personally don't like Science Diet. It's full of cheap fillers like corn and dangerous preservatives like these: Ethoxyquin Promoted kidney carcinogenesis. Significantly increased incidence of stomach tumors. Enhanced bladder carcinogenesis. BHA Enhanced stomach and urinary bladder carcinogenesis. Causes squamous-cell carcinomas in stomachs. (Cancers of this type are among the most lethal and fastest acting, the swiftest effects being seen among animals with light colored fur.) BHT Promoted urinary bladder carcinogenesis. Could be a promoter of thyroid carcinogenesis. Studies have noted that BHA and other antioxidants, particularly Propyl Gallate and ethoxyquin, showed additional effects in inducing stomach hyperplasia and cytotoxicity. http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-...ogy_of_bha.htm I doubt you can blame the food on his weight, though. I think he is just genetically programmed to be a big boy. |
11-29-2007, 07:46 PM | #3 | |
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11-29-2007, 08:05 PM | #4 |
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| I use it as part of the diet for mine, but from what you describe, it doesn't seem as if it is an optimal choice for yours. You may want to consider cutting back and supplementing with a different food, or cutting it out altogether for something that will work better to suit his needs. In any event, do it gradually to allow him time to adjust. |
11-29-2007, 08:25 PM | #5 |
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| Here's another recent thread on science diet http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=105092 My response is on that thread
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11-30-2007, 05:18 AM | #6 |
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| I don't like it either because of all of the fillers, etc. I LOVE Natural Balance potato duck, all 4 of mine eat it.
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11-30-2007, 05:44 PM | #7 |
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| I see that a lot of you don't like Science diet... my dog has had liver shunt surgery and is doing great on this diet. What else is good in its place? |
11-30-2007, 05:59 PM | #8 |
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| I recommend talking to a nutritionist about a homecooked diet appropriate for a dog with liver problems. (Raw diets are not recommended for dogs with liver problems) You would need a low-protein diet.
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11-30-2007, 06:49 PM | #9 |
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11-30-2007, 06:53 PM | #10 |
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| I'm not I just see a lot of negative feedback to this brand of food. Sometimes we don't have choices and for the yorkies on this board who need to be on a special diet. I am giving a good testimonal.. |
11-30-2007, 07:04 PM | #11 |
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| The two best dog foods available for liver compromised dogs are Science Diet L/D and Royal Canin LS 14. I like the second one better. My Yorkie didn't do well on the RC though because it is corn in it. In fact, they both do. While we were concerned that there may be something wrong with her liver, we did homecooked. We are continuing even though we don't have to because I think it is by far the best choice. So, here would be my order for liver problems: Homecooked Royal Canin LS 14 Science Diet L/D canned (this is not a terrible choice as much as I hate Science Diet) I would not want to feed L/D kibble because it has ethoxyquin in it. I wouldn't feed Science Diet I/D or K/D either because they have pork in them and one or both have turkey. These are not recommended for liver compromised dogs.
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11-30-2007, 07:29 PM | #12 |
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| I can completely sympathize with you regarding having to have a special diet. We had a peke that had to have really expensive food that the vet had to order when she began having kidney failure. And it is NO fun having to try to find what is the right thing for them to eat when their immediate health hinges on it so. Good luck! |
11-30-2007, 08:30 PM | #13 |
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| I don't like Science Diet because, like some of the others said, it contains fillers. I used to feed my Yorkies this because my vet sold and recommended it. I did my research and, it turns out, they do not sell it because they think it's the best but because they get high commission off of it. It really disappointed me. You'd think it would be in the vet's best interested to care about our pet's health not the money. I now feed them Nutro - it has natural ingredients and no fillers.
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11-30-2007, 10:09 PM | #14 | |
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Most of the Maltese people I know who are dealing with liver disease have opted to homecook. I can't understand why they can't upgrade the ingredients in prescription diets. Good heavens, we pay enough for them! I had the same problem when Lady was diagnosed with diabetes. Hills w/d is full of corn, and peanut hulls - floor sweepings with no nutritional value! Who would feed a dog with a compromised immune system that garbage? I homecooked for Lady for awhile until the new high protein foods like Evo and Prairie came out. Lady can't have raw because her body is too susceptible to infection from E-coli and other bacteria found in raw that wouldn't bother a normal dog, but Prairie's kibble is wonderful. There's a member on Spoiled Maltese with an MVD dog who has really studied nutrition and has a number of good recipes. I'll pm her and see if I can get some recipes for you. | |
11-30-2007, 10:19 PM | #15 | |
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I don't know a lot about disease-specific diets and of course want and need to learn more. I know liver-diseased dogs need a low-protein diet and diabetic dogs need a high-protein diet. Is it also best for a diabetic dog to have a small to no amount of carbs in their diet? Also, is it because Lady is diabetic that she can't have raw or is it because of her other health problems?
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