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Old 11-14-2007, 11:14 AM   #1
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My Yorkie Kassie has food allergies and is on Royal Canin skin support. The vet told us no treats for ten weeks. Kassie has always had treats and is misbehaving any way she can to let us know how unhappy she is without . Is there anything we can give her for treats that wont go against what the vet has told us.

Kassie is one headstrong yorkie and we are not getting any sleep at our house, she dumps the food bowl out and then swats the empty bowl around all night long. She has peed beside her bowl twice , stands in front of the now empty treat cupboard and squeaks for hours. Tips over her water bowl and in general is in our face all the time bugging.

I love her to pieces but am getting pretty frustrated with the little monster.

Any help would be appreciated, Kassie wants a treat lol

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I have Cali on California Natural lamb and rice because of her skin allergies and they have a health bar that is the same ingredients so I have her on those. She likes them ok but she misses her other treats. I have had her on this for months and she still is scratching so I don't know that it matters for her. I feel so bad for her scratching all the time. I had her tested and nothing showed up! Good luck
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Thanks, I feel for your baby cali too, it is hard to watch them suffer in any way. Kassie never did scratch but chewed her paws, ran around like she was possessed and would drive her face into things crying.

I will have to maybe check and see if royal canin makes any kind of treats .

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I checked and royal canin makes one treat and I am not sure it is okay for allergies. I couldnt find anything saying it was. Kassie probably sounds like a monster and for the most part she is a real handful . My husband said tonight to be thankful it was us that picked her out of the litter or she most likely would have ended up in a shelter. She is our second yorkie and we love the little monster to pieces. We want another one so bad but after the way she attacked our other yorkie it isnt an option for us right now.

If anyone has any suggestions as to what we can give her for treats , homemade or otherwise that wont interfere with food allergies we would really appreciate the help not to mention nights sleep lol

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I have a 10 year old pom that I tell all the time "you'd be in a shelter if anyone else had bought you!!! LOL. I know any treats with grains in them can be a cause of allergies. Have you tried the natural sweet potato ones at Petsmart. I think they are called Buddy bisquits.
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Honestly i wouldn't give her anything but her food. Your vet is trying to single out what she's allergic too and the only way to see if the food works is to not give her anything else to eat. if you give her a treat or some other type of food that the vet hasn't approved then you can ruin the whole food trial and the weeks she spends on this food will be for nothing. Stick it out, she'll give up eventually.

does she even eat the food? you can try tricking her and give her a piece of kibble as a treat. put some in the treat jar, maybe she won't notice LOL
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Hi,

You are most likely right about not giving her anything but she truly is going to drive us both nuts and I am seriously exhausted from not sleeping. She does eat it after she gets hungry enough and I have cleaned kibble up from one end of the house to the other. Not to mention how much I end up throwing out after she flips her water bowl on top of it. She never messes in the house and has peed on her kibble twice after upsetting it.

I think we are on week 3 of a ten week period we are to feed her nothing else and she hasn't given an inch. We would like to think we are smarter than her but she sure can really wear you down. Yorkies are known to be headstrong and stubborn but Kass really takes it beyond that. I still want another yorkie, call that in your right mind??????


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I still want another yorkie, call that in your right mind??????
Well, you clearly fit in here!

Here are the ingredients in the RC Skin Support (I'd pee on my bowl too!):

Ingredients:
ROYAL CANIN Veterinary Diet™ canine SKIN SUPPORT SS 21 Dry
Rice, brown rice, Menhaden fish meal, rice gluten, chicken fat, natural flavors, cellulose powder, dried beet pulp, curcumin, vegetable oil, salmon oil, L-tyrosine, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, sodium chloride, taurine, choline chloride, borage oil, vitamins [DL-alpha-tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), inositol, niacin, L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), D-calcium pantothenate, biotin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), riboflavin (vitamin B2), thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A acetate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement], aloe vera extract, trace minerals [zinc amino acid chelate, zinc oxide, ferrous sulfate, manganese amino acid chelate, copper amino acid chelate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], marigold extract, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, and citric acid.

The highlighted items are often allergy causing! I am personally not a fan at all of any RC products - they are really below average. If it were me, I would elect to choose a better quality (and probably better tasting) allergy kibble. These icky ingredients could be contributing to why she's bouncing off the walls too. The SS is a fish based diet - so if it were me, I'd instead get my paws on Orijen's 6-Fish. Orijen is an incredible kibble, as far as kibbles go - and way superior to RC.

As for treats - would "chewy" things help? You could try Caviar Fish Stix, but I think you'd have to order online - unless you have a premium pet store near you that might sell them...
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Thanks wylies mom, I printed your response and am going to go on a quest for both the chewies and kibble this weekend. I am off to the states this weekend christmas shopping so should be able to find both there. Is the kibble you mentioned allergy safe for sure? I dont want Kass to get any kind of set back, she is 100% back to herself. A good thing I think but she used to be pretty quiet hiding out in the closet lol.


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Thanks wylies mom, I printed your response and am going to go on a quest for both the chewies and kibble this weekend. I am off to the states this weekend christmas shopping so should be able to find both there. Is the kibble you mentioned allergy safe for sure? I dont want Kass to get any kind of set back, she is 100% back to herself. A good thing I think but she used to be pretty quiet hiding out in the closet lol.
Well...if she's doing better, then maybe don't change anything - but I wouldn't keep her on it long term. Orijen is made in Canada - so it should be easy to find for you (you lucky thing!).

Here are the ingredients in Orijen:

Ingredients:
Fresh salmon (includes chinook. coho and sockeye species), salmon meal, russet potato, herring meal, fresh lake whitefish, sweet potato, fresh lake trout, fresh Northern walleye, freshwater cod, fresh herring, sunflower oil, salmon oil (preserved with mixed tocopherals, a natural source of vitamin E), sun-cured alfalfa, dried sea vegetables (brown kelp, Irish moss, dulse and bladder wrack), leeks, psyllium, crab shell, rosemary, lecithin, apples, black currants..
TONIC HERBS AND BOTANICALS
Chicory root (FOS), licorice root, fennel seed, zea mays, peppermint leaf, marigold flowers, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosemary, rosehips.
ORGANIC MINERALS
Iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate.
PROBIOTIC MICROORGANISMS
Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, Enterococcus faecium fermentation product..
PREMIUM VITAMINS
Mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), choline chloride, vitamin A, vitamin D3, niacin, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12, folic acid, biotin, pyridoxine (source of vitamin B6).

Pretty good stuff! Maybe talk w/ your vet next time about using Orijen for the long term?
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I will talk to my vet and wow something actually made in canada for a change . Normally it is a quest to find things in the US that we dont have here.


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ps wylie is too darn cute.
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