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Mere_de_Jambo · 12-20-2007, 10:47 AM

I had initially bought some meat from Harmony Farms but the mixture seemed to difficult to masticate for Jambo (maybe because he still has his baby teeth?). Of course the little sucker hardly chews his food..more like gulps it down. Odd when they chew on everything else why they don't practice this with their food which is when it is most needed. I thought the pre-made frozen kind may work better since they are very grounded up. I ended up purchasing Stella & Chewy's chicken medallions at the suggestion of the store over NV. I tried to switch him to lamb. He did not want to touch it. Then I tried beef. Nope, he didn't want it. I really think variety of protein is important so I will try Venison next for him.
What do you all think about Primal vs. K9 vs. NV vs. Stella & Chewys?

HyunSo · 12-20-2007, 02:41 PM

Yep, everybody's different! We've gone through Ringworm hiding in the coat (found it when I got a ringworm on my arm), 5 baby teeth had to be removed, cottony coat, ear mites, skin rash hiding near the paws followed by bad rash in/on the ears, runny eyes, learning commands in English... Slowly but surely we've just about got everything under control. I keep her away from beef most of the time, but just like with people, it's trial and error. If only people were so forgiving and loveable...

omega · 12-30-2007, 08:57 AM

WHEW!!! I just finished reading every post on this thread. I really have to use the bathroom but didn't want to get up.

Mine have been eating NV raw for about half their meals, kibble with no grain for the other half. I have been thinking about going all raw for quite a while now. Mine all (I have 5) love the NV raw, but they do snarf it down way too fast - especially two of the dogs. None of them are picky eaters, so I'm hoping that will continue.

I have been scared to give the raw bones, but I think I am ready to start.

I have a meat market up the road, so I'll see what they can get for me.

Ok, I HAVE to go now and use the loo.

This is a great thread!

omega · 01-01-2008, 08:04 AM

Ok, I know I resurrected this thread but is it dead????

I just started doing this and I want people to talk to!!!!

I actually fed my dogs raw chicken wings yesterday and they are still alive today!!!!

I was so afraid to do that , but they all LOVED it.

My smallest one (Brea) took a little longer to get into it but eventually ate every bit.

I have visited some of the websites and subscribed to the Yahoo group, but it seems so confusing to get into discussions or whatever.

I, personally, am glad this thread is here to give me the courage to do what I've been wanting to do for a while now.

Happy New Year everyone!!!

P.S. I really don't want to be a THREAD KILLER!!!

kalina82 · 01-01-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by omega

Ok, I know I resurrected this thread but is it dead????

I just started doing this and I want people to talk to!!!!

I actually fed my dogs raw chicken wings yesterday and they are still alive today!!!!

I was so afraid to do that , but they all LOVED it.

My smallest one (Brea) took a little longer to get into it but eventually ate every bit.

I have visited some of the websites and subscribed to the Yahoo group, but it seems so confusing to get into discussions or whatever.

I, personally, am glad this thread is here to give me the courage to do what I've been wanting to do for a while now.

Happy New Year everyone!!!

P.S. I really don't want to be a THREAD KILLER!!!

this is a great thread for new raw feeders. I'm sure if you ask questions the others will come and answer anything for you.

omega · 01-02-2008, 06:31 AM

Thank you.

omega · 01-02-2008, 09:42 PM

So, why do some "experts" say dogs need veggies, grains, vitamins, etc... and some say the opposite? How do you know which is right?

I mean I know canine teeth are designed for tearing and chewing but wild animals eat the contents of stomachs which have greens, etc... in them.

How do you know what to do when there are so many conflicting theories out there?

MyFairLacy · 01-02-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by omega

So, why do some "experts" say dogs need veggies, grains, vitamins, etc... and some say the opposite? How do you know which is right?

I mean I know canine teeth are designed for tearing and chewing but wild animals eat the contents of stomachs which have greens, etc... in them.

How do you know what to do when there are so many conflicting theories out there?

I've seen different opinions...some say dogs eat the stomach contents and others say they shake the contents out before eating the stomach. I do know that dogs are carnivores and were primarily meant to kill prey and eat it...meat, bones and organs. However, dogs are also scavengers and will eat what is available to them. If they came upon a biscuit on the ground, they'd probably eat it if they were hungry. Because dogs are carnivores, their digestive system is not set up to properly digest fruits, veggies and grains. From what I've read, I've sided with the theory that dogs don't need fruits and veggies..and certainly not grains. However, I don't think a small amount of fruits and veggies will hurt either. The Nature's Variety raw has about 5% fruits and veggies and they put certain ones in there for specific reasons by the company. They are ground up into teeny tiny pieces so I believe they are easier to digest than if you just gave whole veggie to a dog. I don't think the amount of veggies in NV raw is going to hurt Lacy at all...and I figure 5% is like a treat.

JCarlson2004 · 01-03-2008, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I've seen different opinions...some say dogs eat the stomach contents and others say they shake the contents out before eating the stomach. I do know that dogs are carnivores and were primarily meant to kill prey and eat it...meat, bones and organs. However, dogs are also scavengers and will eat what is available to them. If they came upon a biscuit on the ground, they'd probably eat it if they were hungry. Because dogs are carnivores, their digestive system is not set up to properly digest fruits, veggies and grains. From what I've read, I've sided with the theory that dogs don't need fruits and veggies..and certainly not grains. However, I don't think a small amount of fruits and veggies will hurt either. The Nature's Variety raw has about 5% fruits and veggies and they put certain ones in there for specific reasons by the company. They are ground up into teeny tiny pieces so I believe they are easier to digest than if you just gave whole veggie to a dog. I don't think the amount of veggies in NV raw is going to hurt Lacy at all...and I figure 5% is like a treat.

You explained that great.

I feed my dogs raw meat by itself but I do give baby carrots, fresh green beans and some fruit (watermelon, honeydew, etc.) as a treat now and then. They don't get them every single day but they do get them a few times a week. I also still give my babies bully sticks as treats and they are fine with that.

I'm pleased to say that they are MUCH happier since being on this new way of eating.

omega · 01-03-2008, 09:53 AM

Since we had been using NV raw for a long time, I didn't think I had to be quite so careful doing just one meat before adding another.

They have had chicken and turkey and beef and some organ meats. (very small amount of the organs)They are all loving it.

Well, except the smallest one. She seems to want to eat it - she keeps picking it up and depositing it different places. She will eat the organ meat and the beef but seems to not like the bones so well.

She is 4 lbs. - do dogs that small eat bones? Which bones could I give her small enough for her to chew on? I thought the ones I have been giving her were small enough but maybe not?

My local butcher is looking into getting me necks, backs, organ meat and chicken feet.

He didn't even flinch when I asked him for them.

He said something about another person gets the same things for her dogs. Cool.

This is pretty fun! Meal time does take a lot longer now and I have to watch them cause the piggies will steal from the slower eating ones.

But hey, if it's better for them, I don't mind.

JCarlson2004 · 01-03-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omega

Since we had been using NV raw for a long time, I didn't think I had to be quite so careful doing just one meat before adding another.

They have had chicken and turkey and beef and some organ meats. (very small amount of the organs)They are all loving it.

Well, except the smallest one. She seems to want to eat it - she keeps picking it up and depositing it different places. She will eat the organ meat and the beef but seems to not like the bones so well.

She is 4 lbs. - do dogs that small eat bones? Which bones could I give her small enough for her to chew on? I thought the ones I have been giving her were small enough but maybe not?

My local butcher is looking into getting me necks, backs, organ meat and chicken feet.

He didn't even flinch when I asked him for them.

He said something about another person gets the same things for her dogs. Cool.

This is pretty fun! Meal time does take a lot longer now and I have to watch them cause the piggies will steal from the slower eating ones.

But hey, if it's better for them, I don't mind.

I'm careful about adding different meats because my Codie has severe allergies. So far, we're figured out that he's allergic to turkey and chicken. He's ok with beef and pork. After 2 more weeks, I'm going to add lamb to the list.

omega · 01-03-2008, 10:51 AM

So far things have been ok around here - no allergies at all and we have been feeding NV raw for about 1-1/2 years. Hopefully, things will stay the same in that department.

mminichan · 01-03-2008, 10:52 AM

I wanna add some extra shine to Chloe's coat. What vitamin should I give it to her and where and how much?

Thanks!!

MyFairLacy · 01-03-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mminichan

I wanna add some extra shine to Chloe's coat. What vitamin should I give it to her and where and how much?

Thanks!!

I give Lacy a fish oil & vitamin E supplement. I've been using Eicosaderm from dermapet. I believe you have to get it through a vet. They do have a website www.dermapet.com It comes in a liquid pump and in capsules

mminichan · 01-03-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I give Lacy a fish oil & vitamin E supplement. I've been using Eicosaderm from dermapet. I believe you have to get it through a vet. They do have a website www.dermapet.com It comes in a liquid pump and in capsules

do i need to ask my vey to prescribed it to me?

12-20-2007, 10:47 AM	#466
Mere_de_Jambo YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 328	I had initially bought some meat from Harmony Farms but the mixture seemed to difficult to masticate for Jambo (maybe because he still has his baby teeth?). Of course the little sucker hardly chews his food..more like gulps it down. Odd when they chew on everything else why they don't practice this with their food which is when it is most needed. I thought the pre-made frozen kind may work better since they are very grounded up. I ended up purchasing Stella & Chewy's chicken medallions at the suggestion of the store over NV. I tried to switch him to lamb. He did not want to touch it. Then I tried beef. Nope, he didn't want it. I really think variety of protein is important so I will try Venison next for him. What do you all think about Primal vs. K9 vs. NV vs. Stella & Chewys?

12-20-2007, 02:41 PM	#467
HyunSo Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: King George, VA Posts: 14	Yep, everybody's different! We've gone through Ringworm hiding in the coat (found it when I got a ringworm on my arm), 5 baby teeth had to be removed, cottony coat, ear mites, skin rash hiding near the paws followed by bad rash in/on the ears, runny eyes, learning commands in English... Slowly but surely we've just about got everything under control. I keep her away from beef most of the time, but just like with people, it's trial and error. If only people were so forgiving and loveable...

12-30-2007, 08:57 AM	#468
omega Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MN Posts: 7,575	WHEW!!! I just finished reading every post on this thread. I really have to use the bathroom but didn't want to get up. Mine have been eating NV raw for about half their meals, kibble with no grain for the other half. I have been thinking about going all raw for quite a while now. Mine all (I have 5) love the NV raw, but they do snarf it down way too fast - especially two of the dogs. None of them are picky eaters, so I'm hoping that will continue. I have been scared to give the raw bones, but I think I am ready to start. I have a meat market up the road, so I'll see what they can get for me. Ok, I HAVE to go now and use the loo. This is a great thread!

01-01-2008, 08:04 AM	#469
omega Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MN Posts: 7,575	Ok, I know I resurrected this thread but is it dead???? I just started doing this and I want people to talk to!!!! I actually fed my dogs raw chicken wings yesterday and they are still alive today!!!! I was so afraid to do that , but they all LOVED it. My smallest one (Brea) took a little longer to get into it but eventually ate every bit. I have visited some of the websites and subscribed to the Yahoo group, but it seems so confusing to get into discussions or whatever. I, personally, am glad this thread is here to give me the courage to do what I've been wanting to do for a while now. Happy New Year everyone!!! P.S. I really don't want to be a THREAD KILLER!!!

01-02-2008, 06:31 AM	#471
omega Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MN Posts: 7,575	Thank you.

01-02-2008, 09:42 PM	#472
omega Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MN Posts: 7,575	So, why do some "experts" say dogs need veggies, grains, vitamins, etc... and some say the opposite? How do you know which is right? I mean I know canine teeth are designed for tearing and chewing but wild animals eat the contents of stomachs which have greens, etc... in them. How do you know what to do when there are so many conflicting theories out there?

01-03-2008, 09:53 AM	#475
omega Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MN Posts: 7,575	Since we had been using NV raw for a long time, I didn't think I had to be quite so careful doing just one meat before adding another. They have had chicken and turkey and beef and some organ meats. (very small amount of the organs)They are all loving it. Well, except the smallest one. She seems to want to eat it - she keeps picking it up and depositing it different places. She will eat the organ meat and the beef but seems to not like the bones so well. She is 4 lbs. - do dogs that small eat bones? Which bones could I give her small enough for her to chew on? I thought the ones I have been giving her were small enough but maybe not? My local butcher is looking into getting me necks, backs, organ meat and chicken feet. He didn't even flinch when I asked him for them. He said something about another person gets the same things for her dogs. Cool. This is pretty fun! Meal time does take a lot longer now and I have to watch them cause the piggies will steal from the slower eating ones. But hey, if it's better for them, I don't mind.

01-03-2008, 10:51 AM	#477
omega Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MN Posts: 7,575	So far things have been ok around here - no allergies at all and we have been feeding NV raw for about 1-1/2 years. Hopefully, things will stay the same in that department.

01-03-2008, 10:52 AM	#478
mminichan Slave to Princess Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 1,258	I wanna add some extra shine to Chloe's coat. What vitamin should I give it to her and where and how much? Thanks!!