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abbie's mom 11-12-2007 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lauraopi (Post 1511752)
btw..can you get tripe at the grocery store??
No. What you might find at the supermarket is bleached/cleaned out. All the nutrients are processed out. You need green tripe.

abbie's mom 11-12-2007 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1511615)
I don't supplement with vitamin c at all, so can't help you with that one.
Nor do I. Sorry.

JCarlson2004 11-12-2007 08:10 AM
Raw Meaty Bones
 
Let's talk Raw Meaty Bones for a minute. Exactly what type of bones are we talking about as being ok for small breed dogs?

Are chicken legs, wings and thighs ok?

What about turkey legs, wings and things?

What other RMB's can I use for right now because Codie may be allergice to chicken/turkey?

What about rabbit? Would rabbit legs be good?

Sorry to ask such basic questions but I want to go and buy some RMB's tonight and I want to make sure I buy the right ones (ones that will not damage their teeth, like marrow bones).

Thanks ladies!!

PS - THANK YOU for all of your help!! I'm so happy we made the switch!! You ladies are amazing!!

lauraopi 11-12-2007 08:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by abbie's mom (Post 1511779)
No. What you might find at the supermarket is bleached/cleaned out. All the nutrients are processed out. You need green tripe.
Ohhh...so where should I get it then?? When I was at the store the only parts of lamb I saw were the chops..I dont know if they have the organs and stuff..this is all very new to me..I have never had to shop for such things!!

With the poultry allergy thing, I know I probably sound crazy..I just want to start her on something completely new to see if it works and then I at least have a baseline, ya know??

JCarlson2004 11-12-2007 08:12 AM
Vitamin C
 
How many days a week would I have to feed RMB's to ensure that they're getting enough vitamin C for me not to have to supplement them on it (by mixing it in with their ground meat)? I guess that's my concern.

Should they eat RMB's EVERY DAY? What about every other day? What about 3 times a week? How much is enough to be sure that they're getting enough vitamin C?

lara2913 11-12-2007 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1511786)
Let's talk Raw Meaty Bones for a minute. Exactly what type of bones are we talking about as being ok for small breed dogs?

Are chicken legs, wings and thighs ok?

What about turkey legs, wings and things?

What other RMB's can I use for right now because Codie may be allergice to chicken/turkey?

What about rabbit? Would rabbit legs be good?

Sorry to ask such basic questions but I want to go and buy some RMB's tonight and I want to make sure I buy the right ones (ones that will not damage their teeth, like marrow bones).

Thanks ladies!!

PS - THANK YOU for all of your help!! I'm so happy we made the switch!! You ladies are amazing!!
All of the ones you mentioned are great for little dogs, lamb ones are good too, lamb chops, meaty ribs etc.

lara2913 11-12-2007 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1511792)
How many days a week would I have to feed RMB's to ensure that they're getting enough vitamin C for me not to have to supplement them on it (by mixing it in with their ground meat)? I guess that's my concern.

Should they eat RMB's EVERY DAY? What about every other day? What about 3 times a week? How much is enough to be sure that they're getting enough vitamin C?
I feed rmb's most days, if for some reason they go a day without them it doesn't matter. The minimum I would advise would be every other day.

lara2913 11-12-2007 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lauraopi (Post 1511787)
Ohhh...so where should I get it then?? When I was at the store the only parts of lamb I saw were the chops..I dont know if they have the organs and stuff..this is all very new to me..I have never had to shop for such things!!

With the poultry allergy thing, I know I probably sound crazy..I just want to start her on something completely new to see if it works and then I at least have a baseline, ya know??
If you ask your butcher he may me able to source some green tripe for you. Or, Sookie posted this link a while back- http://www.greentripe.com/. Lamb chops are a great rmb, lamb breast (and ribs) you can usually get from butchers. Lambs liver is available from most big stores, and butchers.

abbie's mom 11-12-2007 08:34 AM
While we talking RMBs, let's not forget that the emphasis is on the MEATY. The dog's mainstay should be MEAT from whatever protein source you choose.

lara2913 11-12-2007 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by abbie's mom (Post 1511819)
While we talking RMBs, let's not forget that the emphasis is on the MEATY. The dog's mainstay should be MEAT from whatever protein source you choose.
:thumbup: Absolutly, the best rmb's are mostly meat :)

JCarlson2004 11-12-2007 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by abbie's mom (Post 1511819)
While we talking RMBs, let's not forget that the emphasis is on the MEATY. The dog's mainstay should be MEAT from whatever protein source you choose.
So then it would be better to get a bone with a lot of meat on it. Like if I have a choice between chicken wings or chicken breast, I should choose the breast because it has a lot more meat on it than wings ... right?

lara2913 11-12-2007 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004 (Post 1511824)
So then it would be better to get a bone with a lot of meat on it. Lile if I have a choice between chicken wings or chicken breast, I should choose the breast because it has a lot more meat on it than wings ... right?
Yes, chicken breast with the ribs attached is a good one. Providing your dogs crunch their bones up well chicken wings are fine, but when I feed them I always give a little more muscle meat on that day to compensate for the wings not being that meaty. I try to give my dogs as much variety as possible, so feed as many different rmb's as I can get.

abbie's mom 11-12-2007 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1511827)
Yes, chicken breast with the ribs attached is a good one. Providing your dogs crunch their bones up well chicken wings are fine, but when I feed them I always give a little more muscle meat on that day to compensate for the wings not being that meaty. I try to give my dogs as much variety as possible, so feed as many different rmb's as I can get.
........:thumbup: :thumbup:

Just be sure they are consumable bones. NOT rec (wreck) bones.

<tags lara>...I'm going to bed. Been up since 4:00am :sleep:

later, y'all

JCarlson2004 11-12-2007 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by abbie's mom (Post 1511851)
........:thumbup: :thumbup:

Just be sure they are consumable bones. NOT rec (wreck) bones.

<tags lara>...I'm going to bed. Been up since 4:00am :sleep:

later, y'all
What are wreck bones?? :confused:

lara2913 11-12-2007 08:57 AM
They are large hard bones such as beef bones or the leg bones of large animals, they are too dense to be consumed so are often called wreck bones as they have the potential to break teeth.

JCarlson2004 11-12-2007 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1511874)
They are large hard bones such as beef bones or the leg bones of large animals, they are too dense to be consumed so are often called wreck bones as they have the potential to break teeth.
That makes sense. Thank you. :p

I wish Codie could eat turkey or chicken because those bones are soooo much easier to find than rabbit or lamb bones. Maybe he will be able to eat them in the future, who knows. :p

011011 11-12-2007 09:25 AM
My pm ? was just answerd in this thread!
What about deer liver and heart,I had the boys save them for me just in case? They have been trying to get at the deer hanging in the tree.Jc our biggest was out trying to eat the hooves.

JCarlson2004 11-12-2007 09:27 AM
Organs
 
Let's talk organs. :p

I don't know what to say on the subject except WHAT KIND do I feed lolol I want to buy more than just ground up meat. What would I specifically ask for?

lara2913 11-12-2007 09:43 AM
Double post.

lara2913 11-12-2007 09:46 AM
Organ meats- liver and kidney from any animal, or even beef sweetbreads or lungs if you can get them. Be careful not to give too much organ meat at first as it will result in bad runny poop, I give a small amount 1-2 times a week.

http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhotos/10,
http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhotos/21
http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhoto/27/0
http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhotos/44

BTW, heart is GREAT but it is classes as a muscle meat, not organ.

Tissy 11-12-2007 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1511993)
Organ meats- liver and kidney from any animal, or even beef sweetbreads or lungs if you can get them. Be careful not to give too much organ meat at first as it will result in bad runny poop, I give a small amount 1-2 times a week.

http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhotos/10,
http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhotos/21
http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhoto/27/0
http://rawfeddogs.net/RecipePhotos/44

BTW, heart is GREAT but it is classes as a muscle meat, not organ.
What on earth is beef sweetbread?

lara2913 11-12-2007 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tissy (Post 1512012)
What on earth is beef sweetbread?
Interesting question, sometimes they are the glands located behind the breast bone, in the upper chest or near the heart. They can also be the testicles, depends on where in the world you are lol, in both cases though, they are organ meat LOL.

011011 11-12-2007 10:15 AM
I am glad the boys and brett saved them then.The livers are HUGE hearts not as big but alot tougher.
Do any of you feed the NV dry food or both? Dont know of any one around here who has the dry.I was just reading about it today didnt know they made a dry food? Is that dry better than the regular dog food?

lauraopi 11-12-2007 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1511817)
If you ask your butcher he may me able to source some green tripe for you. Or, Sookie posted this link a while back- http://www.greentripe.com/. Lamb chops are a great rmb, lamb breast (and ribs) you can usually get from butchers. Lambs liver is available from most big stores, and butchers.
On that website there is dehydrated green tripe..is that good for a chew treat? I have to tell you, when I looked that the pictures of the fresh tripe I almost gagged!!!

lara2913 11-12-2007 11:16 AM
Some people do give dehydrated green tripe as a chew treat, but fresh is better :D :p

abbie's mom 11-12-2007 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lauraopi (Post 1512131)
I have to tell you, when I looked that the pictures of the fresh tripe I almost gagged!!!
Yeah...you should smell it! :sickie:

lauraopi 11-12-2007 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by abbie's mom (Post 1512413)
Yeah...you should smell it! :sickie:
I don't even want to THINK about what that must smell like!!! The things we do for our babies!!!:eek:

lauraopi 11-12-2007 01:51 PM
so i noticed that in reese's poop there was small bone fragments from the NV. Is that ok?? It was very light in color too...

lauraopi 11-12-2007 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1511760)
Ok well if you think she has an allergy to poultry then you could go with lamb. For the first couple of weeks you could feed lamb muscle meat (any meat without bone, lamb rmb's (any lamb bone with meat, such as lamb chops or meaty ribs) and lamb organ meat (such as lambs liver). If she does great on that then you could begin to add the other meats, such as poultry.
If i can't find lamb liver in the store, can i give another liver..i saw beef liver in the store...

abbie's mom 11-12-2007 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lauraopi (Post 1512673)
If i can't find lamb liver in the store, can i give another liver..i saw beef liver in the store...
Yes; though it's quite strong, and not readily accepted by some. Don't be discouraged if she rejects it right off. Just keep trying...


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