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abbie's mom · 11-08-2007, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lara2913

Doesen't matter, you always remember things that I forget

.....Ditto!

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Originally Posted by 7TimesBlessed

...Bless you all!!!

Bless YOU. You kinda "rock", y'self

. I'm sure lara would agree that it's good to be postitively reinforced, instead of having people accuse us of ramming it down their throats, or trying to kill off our pets!

JCarlson2004 · 11-08-2007, 07:46 AM

Oh and thanks for telling me what green tripe is lolol I can't believe I thought it was some type of fish lol

lara2913 · 11-08-2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

Once again you ladies are amazing!!

THANK YOU not only for sharing your welath of knowledge but also for being so kind.

Ok marrow bones are a big NO NO, got it. They're off my "list of food to buy." I'll stick to rabbit meaty bones for right now. I think I'm going to start them off the first week with ground beef. I'll see how they adjust to just that one meat for about a week to a week and a half (depending on how they do) and then slowly each week add another meat to the mix. That should also help determine what Codie is truly allergic to. I'll start with beef, then add rabbit, then venison. If all of those meats agree with them (and Codie's allergies are in check), I'll try adding lamb. If that's good, then turkey and last chicken. I'll even give ground pork a try (hopefully it won't make them gassy lolol)

I didn't know that you should always freese the meat for 48 hours before thawing it and feeding them. Thanks for that tip!!

I just wrote it on my instruction list (as you can probably tell, I have a lot of lists lolol)

As for the Vitamin E, I will definitely give it to them in addition to the grizzly salmon oil. Can one of you ladies please post a link to buy it on-line? I'm not sure if it needs to be in liquid form or what or even if there's a different type of Vitamin E for canines vs. humans.

Sounds like you are getting it all worked out

Vitamin e, you can get from any health food stores, I buy it in liquid capsules, natural vitamin e is better than synthetic. Theres no difference between the one for humans vs canines. This is not where I get mine from (as i'm in the UK) but this is what they are- http://www.roysvitamins4health.com/page370.cfm. I buy the 100iu natural capsules.

JCarlson2004 · 11-08-2007, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lara2913

Sounds like you are getting it all worked out

Vitamin e, you can get from any health food stores, I buy it in liquid capsules, natural vitamin e is better than synthetic. Theres no difference between the one for humans vs canines. This is not where I get mine from (as i'm in the UK) but this is what they are- http://www.roysvitamins4health.com/page370.cfm. I buy the 100iu natural capsules.

Do you make them sawllow the capsules? I wonder if I could buy it in liquid form and just squirt some into their food. If not, Codia and Tia can definitely swallow the capsules but Cali is extremely tiny. I have trouble getting her to swallow her monthly heart worm pill -- I have to smash it and mix it in with some nutrical.

lara2913 · 11-08-2007, 08:09 AM

Mine will swallow them but you can squeeze them onto the food too, either is fine, just whatever works for them best

sillyjacki · 11-08-2007, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

I have always fed my dogs canned green beans and they LOVE them. Do you think I should switch to natural green beans? Also, would I cook them or feed them raw? I'm still a little confused on all of this lol

Canned has preservatives, so when you can do fresh, that is absolutely the best choice!

sillyjacki · 11-08-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

How is your baby's teeth since switching to raw? I brush my trio's teeth every night, so hopefully that will help once we go raw.

It's better for their teeth to eat raw- the starches from kibble can get caked in the teeth and cause all kinds of tartar damage.

With the raw, since it is soft, it gets dissolved MUCH faster with the saliva.

If you are really concerned about it, though, I suggest a product called LEBA, which is a teeth spray. The ones you add to food or water can sometimes be damaging, but really all the LEBA is is a little apple cider vinegar and I think water. But I'm not entirely sure.

RMKC · 11-08-2007, 08:34 AM

After everyones exitment i bought some medallions, and tried it last night. Rosi sniffed it and walked off, Apollo took a tiny bite and walked off also

after about a half an he i had to throw it away

now what...

sillyjacki · 11-08-2007, 08:37 AM

I DO feed BARF, and the store I worked for distributed both BARF and Nature's Variety.

As far as the quality on BARF, everything is human grade. Our philosophy on the veggies is that, dogs DO eat animals, and animals only. So yes, they need the meat. But they also eat the stomach contents of their prey- (Tripe helps handle this requirement), but the prey is normally herbivorous, and those partially digested contents are replaced by the pulpy veggies.

I'm glad to see so many who make their raw- I like the no hassle approach of premade, myself. But I like that we have so many knowledgeable people who do RAW. We can all agree on one thing- It has AWESOME benefits.

TLC · 11-08-2007, 08:42 AM

Man, I am so jealous - yet again....

Jen,
Your guys are gonna love Raw. TJ and Roxy were in pure delight! But since they have Liver Issues, I had to stop the Raw. I am hoping for a miracle and one day be able to go back to Raw.

Honestly though, if I were you, I would start out with one of the "premade" brands first. At least for the first week or two. This way everyone can adjust. The brands that I would recommend are Aunt Jeni's and Bravo. There are tons of different choices within those two brands and they are filled with the right amount Meat, Bones and Organs. Once you have established that they all like the Raw and their Poops are good, then you can go right over to make your own raw

Best of Luck!

JCarlson2004 · 11-08-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sillyjacki

It's better for their teeth to eat raw- the starches from kibble can get caked in the teeth and cause all kinds of tartar damage.

With the raw, since it is soft, it gets dissolved MUCH faster with the saliva.

If you are really concerned about it, though, I suggest a product called LEBA, which is a teeth spray. The ones you add to food or water can sometimes be damaging, but really all the LEBA is is a little apple cider vinegar and I think water. But I'm not entirely sure.

I have Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar and I always put a little bit in their water to keep their teeth pearly white.

Love that stuff.

JCarlson2004 · 11-08-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by abbie's mom

Here are some links I hope you find helpful:

- Feeding Your Dog

- Jane Anderson's RAW Learning Site

- RAW Feeding (might want to look into the Recipes on this one

)

- RAW fed

Wow, these links are AWESOME!! Thank you!!!

kalina82 · 11-08-2007, 09:12 AM

Its great to see you jumping right into RAW feeding!!! The gang is going to love it. Your much braver then i was when i started feeding raw. I started with premade. I still feed premade most of the time and a couple meals a week are raw chicken. morgan eats AFS and nature's variety. AFS is all meat and NV has veggies mixed in. She also gets a joint supplement and fish oil (which i hate giving because it makes her beard smell... any suggestions on that lara? LOL)

This thread is full of great information.

I'm actually off to the store now to pick up some more food for morgan

good luck!

011011 · 11-08-2007, 09:39 AM

This is great info,how much does it cost to to go raw?Meaning is it alot more than feeding good dry food?
I would be worried about the bones ,I am assuming everyone is when they first start.
I take it either raw or dry you cannot do both?

abbie's mom · 11-08-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sillyjacki

But they also eat the stomach contents of their prey-

ummmm....some of us beg to differ this point

: http://rawfed.com/myths/stomachcontents.html

11-08-2007, 07:46 AM	#32
JCarlson2004 Mommy To 3 Poochies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 8,287	Oh and thanks for telling me what green tripe is lolol I can't believe I thought it was some type of fish lol __________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You

11-08-2007, 08:09 AM	#35
lara2913 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,920	Mine will swallow them but you can squeeze them onto the food too, either is fine, just whatever works for them best __________________ Indy, Benjamin and Malachi There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face- Ben Williams

11-08-2007, 08:34 AM	#38
RMKC Rosi & Poli's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 5,428	After everyones exitment i bought some medallions, and tried it last night. Rosi sniffed it and walked off, Apollo took a tiny bite and walked off also after about a half an he i had to throw it away now what... __________________ ROSI & POLI Love my Babies

11-08-2007, 08:37 AM	#39
sillyjacki Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 544	I DO feed BARF, and the store I worked for distributed both BARF and Nature's Variety. As far as the quality on BARF, everything is human grade. Our philosophy on the veggies is that, dogs DO eat animals, and animals only. So yes, they need the meat. But they also eat the stomach contents of their prey- (Tripe helps handle this requirement), but the prey is normally herbivorous, and those partially digested contents are replaced by the pulpy veggies. I'm glad to see so many who make their raw- I like the no hassle approach of premade, myself. But I like that we have so many knowledgeable people who do RAW. We can all agree on one thing- It has AWESOME benefits. __________________ Jacki & Roxy Dogster My mom's company makes dog products!

11-08-2007, 08:42 AM	#40
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 7,247	Man, I am so jealous - yet again.... Jen, Your guys are gonna love Raw. TJ and Roxy were in pure delight! But since they have Liver Issues, I had to stop the Raw. I am hoping for a miracle and one day be able to go back to Raw. Honestly though, if I were you, I would start out with one of the "premade" brands first. At least for the first week or two. This way everyone can adjust. The brands that I would recommend are Aunt Jeni's and Bravo. There are tons of different choices within those two brands and they are filled with the right amount Meat, Bones and Organs. Once you have established that they all like the Raw and their Poops are good, then you can go right over to make your own raw Best of Luck! __________________ Adopt Donate Foster www.yorkie911rescue.com

11-08-2007, 09:12 AM	#43
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	Its great to see you jumping right into RAW feeding!!! The gang is going to love it. Your much braver then i was when i started feeding raw. I started with premade. I still feed premade most of the time and a couple meals a week are raw chicken. morgan eats AFS and nature's variety. AFS is all meat and NV has veggies mixed in. She also gets a joint supplement and fish oil (which i hate giving because it makes her beard smell... any suggestions on that lara? LOL) This thread is full of great information. I'm actually off to the store now to pick up some more food for morgan good luck! __________________ Kellie and Morgan

11-08-2007, 09:39 AM	#44
011011 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 1,432	This is great info,how much does it cost to to go raw?Meaning is it alot more than feeding good dry food? I would be worried about the bones ,I am assuming everyone is when they first start. I take it either raw or dry you cannot do both?