Yes, you can refreeze the neck.

Well, how "tiny tiny" are ya thinking? The tip of your finger, tiny? :) You can give her two or three of her bite sizes, until you find out how much is fitting for her. Yes, too much = cannon butt. So, poop watch! :p Now, with gizzarrd, if Abigail eats too much, it upsets her tummy and she throws it back up.

How was everyone's Thanksgiving? The neighbor put my cooking to shame!

Yep same here, I usually give them 2 or 3 bits a week. Don't want any cannon butt :eek:

Turkey necks are a major favourite here, each whole one makes 3-4 yorkie sized meals, depending on how big they are.

so you refreeze the necks after they are done with them or since you have a few dogs do you just put them back in the fridge?

I was told on the "other" forum to only give a very small piece of liver to start with, like tip of the finger size because it can cause major diarrhea, but if you guys say its ok i'll give her two bite sized pieces, then refreeze it. i should probably defrost all the 'parts' on saturday and cut them up into pieces then take out when i want them

Whoooaaa....no pressure! LOL Those guys'n'gals are pretty savvy about their feeding, so I'd probably go with the more experience. Guess it depends on who gave that advice. One of the veterans - or a newbie? Ultimately, your the mom - your call ;). Abigail can have three or four bites with no ill effects. But, I also feed something else along with it, like an RMB, or chickie feets. And, she's 7lbs.Sounds like a plan :).

If there is any left I just put it back in the fridge and reserve it the next day :)

Hi, I've been reading this thread with great interest and I think I'm going to start today. For now, just to start "small" I was thinking of picking up some chicken wings and bone in breasts. The grocery store I'm going to usually has some pretty cheap and already frozen. If they have some cheap pork chops with bone, or any liver/kidneys of other than beef, should I pick those up too? I have a 7 month old 9.5 pounder.

Yes chicken is very good to start with, I wouldn't feed pork to him this soon, it can be a bit much for them at first. Liver and kidney are good but as they are organ meat make sure to feed them in very small amounts at first, and only 1-2 times weekly. Congratulations and feel free to ask us lots of questions :)

Ok, you asked for it! :D

With the chicken wings/bone-in breast, how much should I give? From what I've read based on his weight he should get 3-3.5 oz per day. Other than the training treats I've giving him (home less than a week and he pretty much knows sit and lie down!) he seems to be a pretty picky eater. He has the kibble his breeder sent in a bowl and barely touches it unless I hand feed him a piece or 2 at a time. So once a day feeding (with training treats mixed in - if those are ok to mix with raw?) should be ok with him. Should I weigh and portion out the 3 oz or just leave a few wings on the floor (supervised, of course!) and let him decide?

For the organ meat, I'll be surprised if I can find anything other than beef organs for today (chain supermarket) but if I can, can you tell me in what order I should get them? Like lamb is best, then pork, then beef, etc? I will be calling butchers in the area this week, but I expect much of the same reaction others have gotten (like they just grew a second head) especially when I have to try and translate what I'm looking for into French... lol

Oh, one last set of questions for now - I noticed people saying pig's feet are good. Pig knuckles are VERY popular human food here in Quebec (not with me) and should be fairly easy to find, especially around the holiday season. Once I get him settled in with chicken, are pig knuckles the same as pig feet? Should he get one foot per meal? Do they have the glucosamine benefits like chicken's feet?

Thank you!

Tara :D

Well, honestly, I don't really think about weighing, I feed to condition. One wing or breast with ribs would probably be 1 of 2 daily meals for him, or a couple of table spoons of boneless meat or 2-3 of his bitesized peices of organ meat. Some raw egg is often appreciated, I mix it with meat. Also if you want you can give live/natural/plain yogurt, a couple of spoonfuls, mine adore it.

Treats wise, go easy on any treats with grains in. There are quite a few grain free treats you can give, such as dried or freeze dried meats. I would advise feeding him twice daily.


Beef organ meat is fine, you only feed a small amount 1-2 times weekly anyway. I feed beef, lamb and chicken or organ meats, all depends on what I can source.


I'm not completly sure (perhaps ada will be?) but i'm thinking that pigs knuckles will be too dense for him to eat unfortunatly.



Your welcome :)

Ok, here are some more questions... lol

1. For the raw egg and yogurt, are they every day/every meal additions?
2. For liver treats, I found a couple of recipes where I would cook them for a long time on low temp in the oven. I realize this isn't raw, but would that be considered dried, and therefore ok?
3. If I find a whole chicken on sale, is there any part I can't give him once cut up a bit? I'm not a big chicken eater and when I said frozen wings, I meant more like what you get in a pub style restaurant. Hubby corrected me and explained those are smaller pieces of a whole wing. I doubt I can easily get whole wings so I think a whole chicken would be better. And I just saw I can get 2/$9, woo hoo!
4. For fish, is there any kind that isn't good? We can often get cheap frozen shrimp here, cooked or not, same with scallops. Should I stay away from crustaceans completely? If I can give shrimp, do I need to take the skin off?

Ok, I think that's it for now :)

Doesen't really matter, neither are really nessasary. I generally give egg once a week and live yogurt whenever, lately they have been getting a spoonful every night before bed, but just because my local store has it on offer at the moment and they love it soooo much.

Yes that would be perfect.

Whole chickens are fantastic, you can just chop it up into manageable bits for him and freeze them. You can give everything.

I think small amounts of raw shrimp would be fine, be aware though that some dogs cannot handle raw fish and vomit it. If he does this then in future you can give canned oily fish instead, such as sardines, pilchards, mackerel etc. Its obviously not as good as raw fish, but if your dog cannot have raw fish or you cannot get it, its better than no fish at all.

So, Kellie...how did Morgan do with this, on Saturday?

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well i gave her everything yesterday and she wanted no part of it. she did eat a few pieces of gizzard but didn't want the heart or the liver. so i picked everything up and that was that for food for the day.

Today i get it back to her and again she wanted no part of it, but did eat the piece of heart that she didn't want yesterday. So i took the neck and smashed it with a mallet and then took a butchers knife and whacked it a few times. i gave the mess back to her and she started to eat it better.

she's such a pain in the butt. she likes her pre-made stuff better

Good to know. I didn't pick any up (thought we'd start with chicken, got 4!!) but saw some frozen whole salmon and fresh trout REALLY cheap so once we're settled we'll try those. I also picked up a lot of liver (for treats since we're in full on training right now) and a few kidneys, all pork I believe. The recipes for liver treats call for sprinkling garlic on the liver. As long as it's light sprinkling, do you think that would be ok?

Another question - if I'm feeding dried liver as treats, should that replace the fresh organ meat I give?

**We just had our first chicken wing... he took to it RIGHT away! He didn't finish it by any means, but he had had some kibble a few hours ago so he probably wasn't 100% hungry. He ate a ton of skin and most of the meat off part of the wing. I don't think he got much bone but I did hear bone crunching a few times. (ewww, HATE that sound! lol) So we're off to a great start! Though hubby wasn't impressed cutting the chicken up - I didn't have enough strength with our crappy knives to do it! lol Next on the purchase list is a good set of knives, particularly a meat cleaver!

You may want to go easy on the skin as this may be too much fat. Hope he does ok.

Depends on how many treats you're feeding/day. Poop patrol: too much liver = cannon butt. hhhmmm......that's my favorite sound, now :). The assuring sound of my furbabes eating what they should.

Ahhhh, thank you for the tip! lol I'm going to make them into really small pieces for training purposes, but I'm trying really hard to train, so I'd say quite a few. I think until I slow down the training I'll hold off on the kidney for now, which was the organ meat I was going to use.

As for the crunching sound, I guess I associate with shows like E.R. when they're cutting into someone's chest, or I just worry about breaking teeth. Either way, it's like nails on a blackboard to me... which ironically, nails on a blackboard DOESN'T bother me! :D

Another 1st... while I was cutting up the liver to make the treats, I gave him 2 small pieces. He LOVED it! Nice to know he'll like the cheap and easy to get organ meat :) Mommy doesn't need to see or smell liver again anytime soon though, ewww! lol Yeah, not much about feeding raw is appetizing, but at least I know it's good for him!

Good to hear that he enjoyed his wing :)

Yep thats fine, garlic is only harmful to them in large amounts.

I ended up skipping the garlic, which is fine since he likes the dried liver as much as the fresh. I wish I could send everyone some SoCo loves liver vibes, cause he couldn't get enough last night! I stopped after 2 pieces though.

It's funny though - as much as he seems to like the chicken, he'll take his "morning" (12-1 pm when I get up) meal in 1 shot but his "dinner" (6-8 pm) he won't finish. Both nights now I end up having to give him what he didn't finish around 12-1 am. Then he finishes it no problem. Well, mostly anyway. He missed a small bit of bone last night, and a larger piece tonight so far. He thought it was a lovely toy to fling around my office while I'm on a customer service call for Pizza Hut trying to keep a straight face and someone's in my ear saying their pizza was gross... lol It's never a dull moment with yorkies, eh?

So here's this post's questions: he's definitely chewing on the bones and eating a percentage of the bones, but if he's not getting it all, should I start feeding an egg more than once a week? Or maybe just more yogurt? Is it good that I'm trying to give him rmb in every meal or should I tone that down a bit?

As long as he's eating some bone he will be fine, I only usually feed rmb's in one of their two meals a day. Sounds like your boy is a pretty good self regulator, thats what my Indy is like, she never over eats, just eats what she needs.

RMB's are a no go
 

My dogs do not like to eat bones. The only thing they eat are turkey necks (cut into bite size pieces or maybe a tad bigger than bite size). I'm so frustrated!! I've tried everything ... chicken wings, legs and breast, turkey wings and legs but to no avail. They want nothing to do with bones!! This is so frustrating. I don't know what else to do! Any suggestions to get them eating bones?

I had my butcher grind up some bones for me and I've been putting it in their ground meat and also mixing it in with their cutlets (like turkey and pork) and steak. They are eating more expensive meat than hubby and I put together lolol Althought I'm not really a meat person and definitely not a red meat person lol

But seriously, am I doing something wrong? I tried again this morning with chicken wings and they wanted nothing to do with it. :( The butcher said he'd have my order of rabbit legs and duck wings and legs by Friday, so hopefully that will tempt them a little bit more than the turkey or chicken bones.

We ended chopping up the chickens so that 95% of the pieces have bone, some more than others. Like you say though, he seems to take what he needs, so unless you feel it's HARMFUL to have too much bone (if he eats too much bone) I think we'll keep doing this.

On another note, I think someone got too much liver last night. We had a mix of liquid and really solid on the floor this morning. Lesson learned! Not that I didn't believe you - just didn't know how LITTLE it took! lol

Tara :)

so, Chloe is being so picky lately! I think she is finally tired of eating NV Organic chicken! She didn't show any interest to it lately! So, I finally decided to cook it a little to bring out the good smell, then she finally decided to eat it! What a brat! she is too spoil! So, this morning I switched her to NV vension and she showed interest! thanks God! I thought she was sick of eating raw meat! So, I think she just sick of eating the same raw meat! I guess I will go buy more different meats for her. So, she won't sick of eating same meat over and over again!:p

Yay Chloe!!

i usually have at least two different kinds at a time so that she doesn't eat the same thing for breakfast and dinner. Right now i have venison, beef, and chicken. she never knows what she's gonna get.

Reese had her first raw chicken leg today...SHE LOVED IT..crunched down every last bit..except for the very end of it..she is a gulper so I am afraid she will choke...I swear, this dog will eat anything!!