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KazzyK810 · 12-20-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sdimino

hello all, im in the process of getting my first yorkie. I am having a hard time finding any feedback on a breeder I have been in contact with that has a very cute yorkie I am interested in. any input would be a huge help.

the nice woman's name is Kenia located near watertown NY. the actual town is Calcium NY
www.Dynastyyorkies.com

Run! That "sale contract" does nothing to protect you as a buyer and is solely written to benefit the seller/breeder. No way would I sign such a document or agree to those terms....ridiculous. Guaranteed from death for 72 hours....wow!

mysweetpups · 01-22-2013, 07:05 PM

Nobody seems to mention that weights are only an estimate. I bought my little Holly at 10 weeks and at that point she weighed only 2 pounds, I was told that she would not get much bigger and would gain maybe another pound at most. My kids had already fallen in love with this little spitfire and I was not about to let her walk out of our lives. I had never owned a toy breed before, but only growing another pound sounded questionable to me so when they tried to renage on the price they had given over the phone because she was a true "teacup", I was ready to walk away, even though my kids were ready to be heart broken. Well my hard ball tactics worked and they sold her to me for their first price. Good thing to because her very first week home she gained an entire pound. Now at 16 weeks she is 4 pounds and is charting to be 6 pounds full grown. Hardly a teacup but our vet says that she is the healthiest Yorky he has ever seen.

Yorkiemom1 · 01-22-2013, 07:34 PM

I do not look at Yorkie puppies until I have found a breeder that is reputable and ethical and honest. ALL yorkie babies are absolutely adorable...BUY YOUR BREEDER FIRST,,,,SHE WILL HAVE YOUR BABY. I see several things that send up red flags in my opinion, but the thing I do not appreciate is a breeder that is ready and willing to sell a tiny baby to someone that has no experience with tiny Yorkies. They are fragile, and there are many things that a new owner must be knowledgable about....that disturbs me....I worry that she is not concerned that a new owner is inexperienced in caring for these fragile babies. (I am not faulting YOU for not being experienced with tinies....I certainly hope you do not misunderstand what I am saying....a breeder is most concerned with the future for the babies she has brought into being, not just placing the litter with whoever can pay the asking price....JMO)

yorkietalkjilly · 01-22-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I do not look at Yorkie puppies until I have found a breeder that is reputable and ethical and honest. ALL yorkie babies are absolutely adorable...BUY YOUR BREEDER FIRST,,,,SHE WILL HAVE YOUR BABY. I see several things that send up red flags in my opinion, but the thing I do not appreciate is a breeder that is ready and willing to sell a tiny baby to someone that has no experience with tiny Yorkies. They are fragile, and there are many things that a new owner must be knowledgable about....that disturbs me....I worry that she is not concerned that a new owner is inexperienced in caring for these fragile babies. (I am not faulting YOU for not being experienced with tinies....I certainly hope you do not misunderstand what I am saying....a breeder is most concerned with the future for the babies she has brought into being, not just placing the litter with whoever can pay the asking price....JMO)

Amen to every word here. My last dog was very tiny at just over 3 lbs. and came with many, many medical problems that showed up within a short time of bringing her home. She was considered to be a runt. It can be a very painful thing to watch them struggling to try to live like a normal dog, get injured due to their fragile joints and bones just jumping off the couch when you are not looking, not to mention the pain of watching and nursing them through the genetic problems from too small hearts, poor digestive abilities, malabsorption syndrome, spontaneous kneecap dislocation from just walking, etc., not to mention the thousands in vet bills an unaware owner could be facing. Google "medical problems in teacup dogs" and read some of the problems tiny dogs often face before making decisions to buy a dog that could be tiny as a grown dog if you want to see what can happen. It doesn't always end up this way but the chances of medical problems in tiny dogs needs to be considered by any prospective buyer. Put back about $4,000.00 to start just in case for a reserve for medical problems, add to it every so often and be prepared to watch the dog closely all of its life as they are very delicate and can be more easily injured. I am not trying to be such a big damper here, just speaking from the heart and sharing some thoughts.

Verbena · 01-22-2013, 08:45 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. You buy your breeder first

Marhcarter · 01-23-2013, 03:18 AM

I don't know much about breeders, but I do know grammer and I would have a problem with the professionalism of anyone who's website has so many misspellings and grammatical errors...

Marhcarter · 01-23-2013, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter

I don't know much about breeders, but I do know grammer and I would have a problem with the professionalism of anyone who's website has so many misspellings and grammatical errors...

OMG-I did it myself: Whose website!!!! bad bad grammer...

gontygirl · 01-23-2013, 03:48 AM

I have a one year old 2 and a half pound yorkie and he's perfectly HEALTHY with no medical problems. The trick is that because he's so small he will have boundaries that my other dog doesn't have. IE: no stairs, no jumping up or down couches and beds, on walks maybe he'll be carried half the way while my other journey's on, etc... He can't just run around and have as much freedom as he'd want...he is very small and needs to have a mommy as tho he were a baby all the time. My other dog is 16 pounds and she's able to do all the things he'd like to but with training my tiny one still has the expectation of showing me with a "sit" near a chair or couch...that he'd like go up, or he jumps up on my leg when he'd like to be on my lap or in my arms. That kind of jumping is fine as he's healthy with no joint issues because I don't let him jump up on anything...and he'll never be allowed. We'll be building a ramp for our deck this summer so he can go up and down to get to the grass. Currently the snow has built up so much on the stairs that it has created a natural ramp with the build of snow and ice. It's easy to care for a tiny yorkie as long as you remember that they can't actually have the freedom that other small dogs have. My sis has a 6 pound yorkie and she's allowed to go up and down a carpeted staircase, but then again she's not allowed to jump up or down on couches... You have to consider your individual dog and be strict about it to protect them from themselves...

gontygirl · 01-23-2013, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhcarter

I don't know much about breeders, but I do know grammer and I would have a problem with the professionalism of anyone who's website has so many misspellings and grammatical errors...

I agree...It comes across like they couldn't take the time to do it properly or that they're unable to spell...in a world of "SPELLCHECK"?????? RED FLAG!!

Marhcarter · 01-23-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gontygirl

I agree...It comes across like they couldn't take the time to do it properly or that they're unable to spell...in a world of "SPELLCHECK"?????? RED FLAG!!

Thanks. I felt like such a dimwit making a grammar error in a rant about grammar! My point was, if you want to present a professional front, spelling and grammar are among the easiest things to get right. Professionals who make horrid mistakes like that show me they are not concerned with details, and I am a detail oriented person. I would think a breeder not concerned with details of the website may not be concerned with the details of the pups they are breeding. If I remember correctly, even her contract had heinous spelling mistakes.

mysweetpups · 01-23-2013, 07:17 AM

I would think that the numerous grammar and spelling mistakes were made by someone whose first language was not English. That's all.

Princess keke · 01-23-2013, 07:53 AM

Honey is now 9 months and thinks she is the biggest thing walking. Last time we took her to the vet she weight 3.3 pounds. I love her with all of my heart shes my baby. All I can say is listen to the people above. I only paid $700 for Honey and have had no problems yet. If I need the breeder I am more than welcome to call or email and she will get back to me as soon as possible. Honey is a healthy dog but it dont always a happy ending. I have heard so many bad things about breeders that I didn't know before. I say just take in all the information and ask the breeder all the questions they are telling you to ask. They might come over as being mean or hard but they are only trying to help you in the long run.

gontygirl · 01-23-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mysweetpups

I would think that the numerous grammar and spelling mistakes were made by someone whose first language was not English. That's all.

That's a really good point too...

sdimino · 10-01-2013, 05:50 PM

Can a moderator please close this thread, I have a duplicate thread.

01-22-2013, 07:34 PM	#18
Yorkiemom1 Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 9,462	I do not look at Yorkie puppies until I have found a breeder that is reputable and ethical and honest. ALL yorkie babies are absolutely adorable...BUY YOUR BREEDER FIRST,,,,SHE WILL HAVE YOUR BABY. I see several things that send up red flags in my opinion, but the thing I do not appreciate is a breeder that is ready and willing to sell a tiny baby to someone that has no experience with tiny Yorkies. They are fragile, and there are many things that a new owner must be knowledgable about....that disturbs me....I worry that she is not concerned that a new owner is inexperienced in caring for these fragile babies. (I am not faulting YOU for not being experienced with tinies....I certainly hope you do not misunderstand what I am saying....a breeder is most concerned with the future for the babies she has brought into being, not just placing the litter with whoever can pay the asking price....JMO) Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 01-22-2013 at 07:36 PM.

01-22-2013, 08:45 PM	#20
Verbena Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: with my flying monkeys Posts: 15,620 Blog Entries: 7	I couldn't agree with you more. You buy your breeder first __________________ Teri . . . Galen Jameson Frazier Seraphina Luna Rosencrantz, Saber Tooth Tiger, Pussy Willow Pandora Guildenstern

01-23-2013, 03:18 AM	#21
Marhcarter ♡Huey's Human♡ Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ringgold, Ga Posts: 3,333	I don't know much about breeders, but I do know grammer and I would have a problem with the professionalism of anyone who's website has so many misspellings and grammatical errors... __________________ Huey's mom, Marilyn :When a day starts & ends with puppy kisses, I can handle anything that comes in between!

01-22-2013, 07:05 PM	#17
mysweetpups Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Huntington, NY USA Posts: 26	Nobody seems to mention that weights are only an estimate. I bought my little Holly at 10 weeks and at that point she weighed only 2 pounds, I was told that she would not get much bigger and would gain maybe another pound at most. My kids had already fallen in love with this little spitfire and I was not about to let her walk out of our lives. I had never owned a toy breed before, but only growing another pound sounded questionable to me so when they tried to renage on the price they had given over the phone because she was a true "teacup", I was ready to walk away, even though my kids were ready to be heart broken. Well my hard ball tactics worked and they sold her to me for their first price. Good thing to because her very first week home she gained an entire pound. Now at 16 weeks she is 4 pounds and is charting to be 6 pounds full grown. Hardly a teacup but our vet says that she is the healthiest Yorky he has ever seen.

01-23-2013, 03:48 AM	#23
gontygirl Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 217	I have a one year old 2 and a half pound yorkie and he's perfectly HEALTHY with no medical problems. The trick is that because he's so small he will have boundaries that my other dog doesn't have. IE: no stairs, no jumping up or down couches and beds, on walks maybe he'll be carried half the way while my other journey's on, etc... He can't just run around and have as much freedom as he'd want...he is very small and needs to have a mommy as tho he were a baby all the time. My other dog is 16 pounds and she's able to do all the things he'd like to but with training my tiny one still has the expectation of showing me with a "sit" near a chair or couch...that he'd like go up, or he jumps up on my leg when he'd like to be on my lap or in my arms. That kind of jumping is fine as he's healthy with no joint issues because I don't let him jump up on anything...and he'll never be allowed. We'll be building a ramp for our deck this summer so he can go up and down to get to the grass. Currently the snow has built up so much on the stairs that it has created a natural ramp with the build of snow and ice. It's easy to care for a tiny yorkie as long as you remember that they can't actually have the freedom that other small dogs have. My sis has a 6 pound yorkie and she's allowed to go up and down a carpeted staircase, but then again she's not allowed to jump up or down on couches... You have to consider your individual dog and be strict about it to protect them from themselves...

01-23-2013, 07:17 AM	#26
mysweetpups Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Huntington, NY USA Posts: 26	I would think that the numerous grammar and spelling mistakes were made by someone whose first language was not English. That's all.

01-23-2013, 07:53 AM	#27
Princess keke YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 536 Blog Entries: 1	Honey is now 9 months and thinks she is the biggest thing walking. Last time we took her to the vet she weight 3.3 pounds. I love her with all of my heart shes my baby. All I can say is listen to the people above. I only paid $700 for Honey and have had no problems yet. If I need the breeder I am more than welcome to call or email and she will get back to me as soon as possible. Honey is a healthy dog but it dont always a happy ending. I have heard so many bad things about breeders that I didn't know before. I say just take in all the information and ask the breeder all the questions they are telling you to ask. They might come over as being mean or hard but they are only trying to help you in the long run.

10-01-2013, 05:50 PM	#29
sdimino YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: long island Posts: 7	Can a moderator please close this thread, I have a duplicate thread.