Feeling bad vibes on YT ??

[chachi]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I recently was on an 'all breed' site and OMG they were out for blood...and for the smallest things ...Same with some of the Techie sites...I usually try to find computer help by reading forums that pertain to the problem I may be having and man oh man - there's far more going on out there than I've ever seen here...

YT is pretty tame when compared to other public sites

I agree with that in most cases but I am on another pet forum where if you even flame another member you will get a warning from the Mods. So I have seen stricter rules than here. I am glad we are able to give opinions here

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by kelkiss5

Hi guys, like yourselfs im an absoulte YT nut, hubbys always giving of to me saying, are you on that yorkie site again.
I dont know about you guys, but recently i have noticed that some people here are getting very bitchy and darn right rude towards other members. This is realy upseting me as i have learned so much here and knew if i had a problem, i could come straight here and have my question answered almost right away, in the nicest way possible. Now when i come on i find myself having to defend more and more members, as they have been asking simple question and the next you no they are getting bashed right left and centre. Maybe its just me, but does anyone else feel this way.

it actually is nothing new. has been happening here for years. i made a thread last week about my new expected litter and it got so bad off topic with breeders, show breeders and others attacking people right and left. seems like after the first page, no one even remember my joy at having a new litter and seeing the ultrasound. Finally, after about five or six pages of nonsense, admin closed the thread which I had asked them to do in about the third post.

[yougetthesmiles]

If someone don't like a thread or don't agree with something, then you need to move on. My mama always told me if you can't saying something nice, then don't say anything at all!

[BubblPopElectrc]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

Freedom of speech is what America is made up of.
What I see happening is that others are interpreting constructive criticism as "bitchy" and "rude", and it isn't even directed at them, yet they feel the "need" to jump in and stir things up into a bashing frenzy. Had they not taken things into their own non-understanding ways, it would never get that far.
I'm sure the folks here can address the issues put in front of them in a more intelligent way without having the flame throwers starting a riot and getting everything taken out of context making the situation bad for everyone.
If someone just makes it a point to come out and make remarks that they know will cause a major riot, then why don't you join the intelligent ranks and ignore the unintelligent remarks so that they just tuck tail and go away!!

I have to agree. I don't read the breeder's section, so I can't speak of that, but I feel that some people are simply to sensitive. Because it's the internet, I feel like some people may take stuff out of context, viewing it as "bitchy" or "rude."

Also, it's a forum, not real life, so I don't feel as one should be personally affected by what others say. It's not that big of a deal, right?

As for the closed topics, I think it's just administration has gotten stricter in the sections that have items for sale, and that's where the majority of closed topics are.

[kelkiss5]

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

I have to agree. I don't read the breeder's section, so I can't speak of that, but I feel that some people are simply to sensitive. Because it's the internet, I feel like some people may take stuff out of context, viewing it as "bitchy" or "rude."

Also, it's a forum, not real life, so I don't feel as one should be personally affected by what others say. It's not that big of a deal, right?

As for the closed topics, I think it's just administration has gotten stricter in the sections that have items for sale, and that's where the majority of closed topics are.

Well actully i think it is a big deal, that if somone posts a question and gets ripped to pieces for it. Me being a person and having feelings myself can not help but to feel something on this, weither its true life or not.
But i suppose i have been knowing to be a little sentimental at times.lol

[BLowry]

Originally Posted by chachi

Here lately the breeder section has been a little rough but i havent noticed any negative posts elsewhere

I agree with you Chachi...I don't go into the breeders section and I'm not on as much as I used to be (Finally got a job!) but, I haven't seen any nasty posts either.

[Dawgcrazee]

Originally Posted by kelkiss5

Well actully i think it is a big deal, that if somone posts a question and gets ripped to pieces for it. Me being a person and having feelings myself can not help but to feel something on this, weither its true life or not.
But i suppose i have been knowing to be a little sentimental at times.lol

Always feel free to post your questions and be mindful when going thru the responses that some can be offensive if you let it. Just pay attention to the responses that answer your questions.
Some folks are too frank and don't even mean to be.
Forgive them and go on.
Teri

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Females will continue to have heat cycles well into old age. Does this mean that they should be bred? Heavens no! I know that as a human adult, I'd hate to be pregnant when I'm in my 50s. A dog that is 6 years old has earned a healthy retirement and should be spayed so that she can live the rest of her life as a lap dog.

Well said, and THANK YOU for saying this! I'm not a breeder, and rarely venture over in that section; but recently had a friend who rescued two females from NC and their situation just breaks my heart. The six y/o female has already had four litters. The thirteen y/o female has had ELEVEN litters!!! These poor ladies were nothing but puppy mills!!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by abbie's mom

Well said, and THANK YOU for saying this! I'm not a breeder, and rarely venture over in that section; but recently had a friend who rescued two females from NC and their situation just breaks my heart. The six y/o female has already had four litters. The thirteen y/o female has had ELEVEN litters!!! These poor ladies were nothing but puppy mills!!

Can you imagine what kind of shape their little insides are ?? how are they doing now ???

I wasn't going to post again here but the flip side is....yes some DO flame the posts & make it worse...I've seen someone with years of experience in breeding get bashed over comments because someone didn't like HOW they said it......and yes some ARE direct or considered rude or maybe go off topic...but the bottom line is.... it's about the YORKIES right ??? I know it can be frustrating to ask a question and not hear what you hoped to hear but I've seen some people fly off the handle at responses they received. It goes both ways....

Regarding the breeding section... people reading get to know the good and bad in the breeding world ...with all the people NEW to breeding or buying a yorkie - I think it's great that we're able to comment. That's how people learn. If no one spoke up we'd be seeing tinies being bred at every corner.......not that they aren't now but hopefully people learn from the heated threads as well as the happy threads...hokey as that sounds

wow I'm chatty today...sorry. I just know there's so many really nice people here and don't want the whole site labeled over just a few not so great threads..

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by kelkiss5

Hi guys, like yourselfs im an absoulte YT nut, hubbys always giving of to me saying, are you on that yorkie site again.
I dont know about you guys, but recently i have noticed that some people here are getting very bitchy and darn right rude towards other members. This is realy upseting me as i have learned so much here and knew if i had a problem, i could come straight here and have my question answered almost right away, in the nicest way possible. Now when i come on i find myself having to defend more and more members, as they have been asking simple question and the next you no they are getting bashed right left and centre. Maybe its just me, but does anyone else feel this way.

I have to agree. I dont come on as much as I use to. mostly because im busy and the other being because of the threads turning bad. I love going to the breeder section, love learning all I can on the breed.and it makes me mad when some of the members dont know how to stay on topic, but do their back ground checks and if they doont agree, they bring that in on the thread. I think its wrong.some think its ok. but I dont. If everyone would stay on the topic of the org poster these threads wouldnt turn out like they do. It ruins it for everyone else.

[daisy mae06]

Very well said V

Originally Posted by red98vett

I recently was on an 'all breed' site and OMG they were out for blood...and for the smallest things ...Same with some of the Techie sites...I usually try to find computer help by reading forums that pertain to the problem I may be having and man oh man - there's far more going on out there than I've ever seen here...YT is pretty tame when compared to other public sites

Edited to add - remember all the great posts & the good people here - there's bound to be a few heated discussions but overall..this site has far more good threads than not.

[simonandhallie]

I agree, lately I have dreaded checking in on YT because of the negativity, rudeness and hostility. This used to be a fun place for me and I'm sad about what it has become recently.

[BubblPopElectrc]

Nevermind.

[JiggityJig]

Every time this subject comes up, I sorta have to laugh. YT is definitely one of the NICEST sites I've been on on the web, including other pet sites. I've been on some boards where people are BRUTAL with their opinions! I think everyone here does a pretty good job, most of the time, expressing themselves politely.

That sd. I also see the other side...that, especially on the breeding topic, there CAN be a certain snobbery, and yes, that can be a turn-off.

But by and large, I really like YT just as it is. There are a lot of pet sites that are just all about oohing and ahhing over each other's puppies, and all the warm fuzzies....and there are a lot of sites that are strictly clinical and informative. I think we have a good balance here, and I'd hate to see one sacrificed for the sake of the other.

I'm sensing that a lot of people come here for the community and the relationships....but a lot of us don't. A lot of us aren't here looking for "friends" and "bonding" and "kumbaya" moments. Yes, we come here to see cute puppies , but mainly for the INFORMATION and learning opportunities. And sometimes the exchange of experiences and opinions can get controversial. I like to think that we are all adults, and can handle that.

I'll just copy-n-paste what I just sd. on this subject in another thread:

I like that YT isn't a place where people get their hands held and their heads patted, no matter what. Yes, sometimes opinions could get expressed in a nicer way. But ultimately, this place is about EDUCATION...not warm fuzzies.

Breeding is a huge responsibility, both to the little furry lives they bring into the world, and to the customers who hand over their wallets and their hearts and their TRUST. I absolutely think that anyone who takes all that on should not be held ABOVE accountability.

And I always think about allllllll the people (who we forget about) who aren't even members of this board, but are just out there reading. Or who just happen by here one night looking specifically for a breeder to purchase a pup from. Or who maybe stumble on one thread through a google search or something.

This could be the only thread that person ever reads at YT. This could be the only time that person EVER hears some of the basic standards of responsible breeding that are just taken for granted by most of us now. And before that person gets intrigued by an interesting story, or lured by cute puppy pics, and *clicks* on that breeder's website, possibly never to return here....I think that YT has the great opportunity, if not the responsibility, to point out any red flags that they notice first.

It's our opportunity to make a difference!!! And I know that YT made a difference in MY yorkie buying experience in this way, and for that, I am thankful. It's definitely something I would hate to see us lose, in the name of "support" or "positivity" or "relationships".

[judyeve]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I recently was on an 'all breed' site and OMG they were out for blood...and for the smallest things ...Same with some of the Techie sites...I usually try to find computer help by reading forums that pertain to the problem I may be having and man oh man - there's far more going on out there than I've ever seen here...YT is pretty tame when compared to other public sites

Edited to add - remember all the great posts & the good people here - there's bound to be a few heated discussions but overall..this site has far more good threads than not.

Have you ever been on an eBay discussion forum? You want to talk about nasty, that's the place to go. I once asked someone who responded to something I posted if he was on medication!