Kiwi was spayed yesterday AND had her liver biopsied! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Kiwiglaze · 10-09-2007, 07:23 AM

So Kiwi went in yesterday for her spay and liver biopsy and I went to pick her up last night and I felt like a horrible mom! She was sooo lethargic and sleepy and she had a big incision with staples

. The good news is that her liver looked completely normal, but they did the biopsy just to be sure. So I hope to hear soon about that. I took her back to the vet this morning to get more fluids and a recheck. She was walking around some this morning, so that's good. She is also has the patch that gives a small, continuous dose of pain meds, so she doesn't seem to be in pain. It is so hard to see her when she is not herself!

RMKC · 10-09-2007, 08:20 AM

aaah poor Baby, hope she feels better soon. Rosi and Apollo had the patch, it realy gives you peace of mind knowing they are not in Pain !

Yorkiekids · 10-09-2007, 10:28 AM

Prayers coming that she's back to her old self in no time at all.

Patti · 10-09-2007, 10:31 AM

AWW. Hoping she feels better soon. When Cali had her liver biopsy I think it took about 3 days for results.

Ellie May · 10-09-2007, 10:47 AM

Look at the bright side, IT IS OVER!

You must be relieved.

ARCHIE · 10-09-2007, 10:52 AM

Hoping Kiwi feels like her old self in a day or two. Hope all is well
with the biopsy as well. Aren't you glad it's over?

Yorkieluv · 10-09-2007, 11:57 AM

Hi Kiwiglaze, glad to hear that she's feeling better, but I feel compelled to tell you that you need to be extremely careful with that patch. If it's the one I think you're talking about, it's the fenanyl patch, and it is an extremely strong narcotic...Make sure that no heat is near the patch b/c heat will cause the patch to release large amounts of the narcotic at once.

Kiwiglaze · 10-09-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkieluv

Hi Kiwiglaze, glad to hear that she's feeling better, but I feel compelled to tell you that you need to be extremely careful with that patch. If it's the one I think you're talking about, it's the fenanyl patch, and it is an extremely strong narcotic...Make sure that no heat is near the patch b/c heat will cause the patch to release large amounts of the narcotic at once.

Yes, it is the Fenantyl patch and the vet did warn us about the heat issue. She said that people have died from heating the patch while wearing it!

We talked about other forms of pain control but until the biopsy comes back, the vet wanted to stay away from giving her oral pain meds because the liver could have a hard time processing it. Thanks for the reminder for me and also all the other parents out there who decide to get the patch.

And thanks to everyone for their kind words, I am very glad it is over with and look forward to when she feels better, too!

Yorkieluv · 10-09-2007, 03:21 PM

The fentanyl is also processed through the liver.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2005/19813s039lbl.pdf
That link is to the product insert for the fentanyl patch...It basically states that it should not be used in:
-patients who are not opioid tolerant
-in the management of acute pain or patients who require opioid analgesia for a short period of time
-in the management of post-operative pain
-in the management of mild pain
-in the management of intermittent pain

This information is straight from the fentanyl patch product insert.

I am praying for your baby to have a quick and smooth recovery!!

Kiwiglaze · 10-09-2007, 03:44 PM

Hmmmm....now I am getting kinda worried about the patch thing. Here is the link to the information handout I was given: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...?P=PRINT&A=534

It says that it is used by vets to control post operative pain. I know the FDA does not recommend its use for humans post-operatively because it says there are other drugs out there that are better. Maybe it is different with animals?

saphire · 10-10-2007, 01:31 PM

Phew, there is always something to worry about isn't there? If it's not the pain or illness then it's the meds!!

It is just so good that there are so many Mommy "doctors" on here with lots of advice and information

I hope all goes well with Kiwi. Thinking of you.

10-09-2007, 07:23 AM	#1
Kiwiglaze Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 179	Kiwi was spayed yesterday AND had her liver biopsied! So Kiwi went in yesterday for her spay and liver biopsy and I went to pick her up last night and I felt like a horrible mom! She was sooo lethargic and sleepy and she had a big incision with staples . The good news is that her liver looked completely normal, but they did the biopsy just to be sure. So I hope to hear soon about that. I took her back to the vet this morning to get more fluids and a recheck. She was walking around some this morning, so that's good. She is also has the patch that gives a small, continuous dose of pain meds, so she doesn't seem to be in pain. It is so hard to see her when she is not herself! __________________ Proud mom of Kiwi! ...and a new Biewer on the way!

10-09-2007, 08:20 AM	#2
RMKC Rosi & Poli's Mom Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Washington State Posts: 5,428	aaah poor Baby, hope she feels better soon. Rosi and Apollo had the patch, it realy gives you peace of mind knowing they are not in Pain ! __________________ ROSI & POLI Love my Babies

10-09-2007, 10:28 AM	#3
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	Prayers coming that she's back to her old self in no time at all. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

10-09-2007, 10:31 AM	#4
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	AWW. Hoping she feels better soon. When Cali had her liver biopsy I think it took about 3 days for results. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

10-09-2007, 10:47 AM	#5
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	Look at the bright side, IT IS OVER! You must be relieved. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

10-09-2007, 10:52 AM	#6
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	Hoping Kiwi feels like her old self in a day or two. Hope all is well with the biopsy as well. Aren't you glad it's over?

10-09-2007, 11:57 AM	#7
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	Hi Kiwiglaze, glad to hear that she's feeling better, but I feel compelled to tell you that you need to be extremely careful with that patch. If it's the one I think you're talking about, it's the fenanyl patch, and it is an extremely strong narcotic...Make sure that no heat is near the patch b/c heat will cause the patch to release large amounts of the narcotic at once. __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

10-09-2007, 03:21 PM	#9
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	The fentanyl is also processed through the liver. http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2005/19813s039lbl.pdf That link is to the product insert for the fentanyl patch...It basically states that it should not be used in: -patients who are not opioid tolerant -in the management of acute pain or patients who require opioid analgesia for a short period of time -in the management of post-operative pain -in the management of mild pain -in the management of intermittent pain This information is straight from the fentanyl patch product insert. I am praying for your baby to have a quick and smooth recovery!! __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

10-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#10
Kiwiglaze Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 179	Hmmmm....now I am getting kinda worried about the patch thing. Here is the link to the information handout I was given: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...?P=PRINT&A=534 It says that it is used by vets to control post operative pain. I know the FDA does not recommend its use for humans post-operatively because it says there are other drugs out there that are better. Maybe it is different with animals? __________________ Proud mom of Kiwi! ...and a new Biewer on the way!

10-10-2007, 01:31 PM	#11
saphire Lil' CoCo, Lotta Coffee. Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 3,115	Phew, there is always something to worry about isn't there? If it's not the pain or illness then it's the meds!! It is just so good that there are so many Mommy "doctors" on here with lots of advice and information I hope all goes well with Kiwi. Thinking of you. __________________ Sheilagh CoffeeAbigail-Ceana. CoCoMurfee & Winston