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08-29-2007, 09:07 AM | #1 |
Owned by my Furbabies Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio
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| Fading puppy syndrom Does anyone know much about the Fading Puppy Syndrom????? A friend of mine has a puppy that just doesn't seem to want to thrive. She force feeds her, gives her dextrose and so on and still the puppy is not doing well. Her vet has run test after tests and can not find anything wron other than sometimes it's sugar level is low. They have had her on IV and force fed her and still not much luck. Can anyone help???? |
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08-29-2007, 09:23 AM | #3 |
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| Here is the thing....it is unexplianed how a 11 week old puppy does not want to thrive. No one so far can figure it out and give her as clue what to do. She is a good person, caring for her babies and thi is a freak thing I believe that has happened. Fading puppy usually happens not to long after birth..... never heard of an 11 week old doing this. |
08-29-2007, 09:33 AM | #5 |
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| I dont know the answer to your question but once a puppy I was waiting on died. It was 10 weeks. The only problem the breeder saw with it was it had some hypoglycemic episodes and it had an open fontanelle
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08-29-2007, 09:34 AM | #6 |
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| ? I assume the vet did blood tests...and did it not give any clues? My puppies are also 11 weeks, so I know how energetic they should be. The only thing I can think of is that maybe the pup has gotten into something, mine like to chew on everything in site so I made sure the area they are in is puppy proof...and still one of them chewed on a painted wood base molding..I knew it was latex paint but I still worried. Is this only happening to one pup? and none of the others are showing anything similar? Wishing the pup well and hope he/or she makes it through this. Debbie Tea' +6 |
08-29-2007, 09:40 AM | #7 |
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| These pups are in a bedroom with linoleum flooring, and two x pens put together and that's their area. So they could not have gotten into anything. They eat but not enough and they were playing like normal pups should, then all of a sudden they went down, so to speak. First the little boy now he is fine, then the tiny little girl and she is still not doing well at all. This morning my friend said when she got up for another force feeding ( which she does every three hours at night and every two hours during the day ) she said the biggest one was down. Maybe someone has an idea of what she can feed that they will eat..... She has tried several foods and nothing seems to stimulate their appetites. |
08-29-2007, 09:46 AM | #8 |
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| So more than one went down... Wow, it's a like trying to figure out a mystery..but there has to be something that triggered this if they all were affected to some degree? right? Did she use a cleaner on the floor? feed them something new? take them outside together to play before this happened (mine liked the grass so much they chewed on it and some of them got a bit of the runs afterwards)? What about house plants? Just trying to get some ideas going so maybe someone or something can help you figure this out. Debbie |
08-29-2007, 09:57 AM | #9 |
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| that is aweful. i hope everything works out for the better.
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08-29-2007, 10:04 AM | #10 |
Bella Boo & Diggy Too! Donating GS Member | well if she isnt using bottled or distilled water could they be getting sick from something in the tap water???? wow how strange. carbon monoxide? it is colorless and odorless would effect a 2 pound baby wayyyyy before an adult...it has to be something....
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08-29-2007, 12:17 PM | #12 |
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| fading puppy I always use nutrical for fading puppies as they seem to have hypo-glycemic problems. My vet said that sometimes in tiny puppies, the heart/liver ratio is wrong, and as the puppy grows, the heart/liver cant keep up and eventually the puppy dies. I have had a few die at older ages like 8 and 10 weeks old. Yes, I had every test under the sun done and they found nothing. I hand fed the puppies to no avail. Nothing seemed to work. The nutrical only kept them alive. I had major problems like this when I lived in a town that was at 7000 feet elevation. I did every test under the sun again, but found nothing. I lost litter afer litter. They would get to be 7 days old and then start "fading" one by one. So, on my last litter, I had a friend whelp the litter at a lower elevation, around 2000 feet, and the pups all lived. I dont know what was going on at the higher altitude. I cleaned with bleach only, I changed all my breeders out for new bloodlines, nothing I did helped. I read that pre-mi human babies had to be air-vaced to a lower elevation as there was not enough oxygen at 7000 feet for them to survive. I eventually moved to a lower elevation and have never had a problem. Just a thought, Lynn |
08-29-2007, 01:09 PM | #13 |
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| I am not sure if this will help, but I had a 1 pound, 10 week old with the same problem, ie not eating enough. This can cause massive drops in their blood sugar. I was force feeding her and the vet said that sometimes that will have a reverse affect. If they are old enough, try mixing canned tuna with honey. The vet said this is obviously NOT a good puppy diet, but at least it gets something in them. If it is hypoglycemia you need to make sure the sugar levels are consistent. Lolo was having seizures because her blood sugar levels were so erratic. Try giving them a bit of Nutrical and then a protein/carbo combo like rice and chicken or honey and tuna. I am NOT a professional and I only consulted one vet, but Lolo pulled through after 2 weeks. Let me know if I can help any further! |
08-29-2007, 02:11 PM | #14 |
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| Ok this is what she has and is doing she said........ She is giving nutri cal, she has tried chicken and rice, she is force feeding them AD, and has tried other things. She is even giving pedialite. She has tried many different food to get them to eat something and two are eatting a little but the little girl is not. Nothing has changed at her house, not cleaning products or anything like that. She has never had them outside because she feels they are too tiny. They are 11 weeks old today and do not even weigh a pound yet. Well the bigger boy weighs a little over a pound but the other two no way. And believe me she is not breeding small dogs to get tiny ones as her females are a good breeding size. So the vets have checked the blood level and its a little low but what she is doing should have brought it up. They even though liver shunt and did the tests and that's not it. She said they have done every test they can think of. |
08-29-2007, 02:41 PM | #15 |
Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida
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| I'm so sorry to hear this and hope the little ones are well soon. Keep us posted.
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