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daisy mae06 · 07-04-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wemple2

Samantha, Did they give you any paper work when you bought the puppy, does she have a health guarantee? I agree with Judy...go get your baby, don't ask them any questions yet, just bring Baby home. Then come back on here...we will get some other opinions from some of the people here that have dealt with this kind of thing to help you. My personal feeling is they are taking advantage of you. That Baby deserves better treatment and they should be responsible for that treatment. They sold you a sick puppy, that's just wrong. They should be footing the vet bills, not treating her at their place. She could very possibly need to be hospitalized. I want to see what other people here think. We will help you get Baby better. But most important thing to do now is get her out of there and back home with you. I pray that Baby will make it, that she will get the proper care. Good luck, come back here for further assistance. Please...

Yes great advice Kathy, I will be praying that baby gets well soon. Please get her.

Judy in Waco · 07-04-2007, 08:55 PM

Hi Samantha,
My computer seems to have some issues tonight, so I'm not sure if I will be online much longer. I will check in tomorrow morning. I want to leave you with these thoughts...

First, please do NOT take Baby back tomorrow for a treatment or anything else. My gut feeling is that these people are puppy brokers for a puppy mill or mills. These types of people sound nice or who would buy from them? They are in it for the money and cannot be trusted. Who can say if they are doing what they say they are doing in terms of her treatment? I almost hate to say this, but I have heard of cases where the same puppy is sold over and over. You did say they have moved a lot right? What would keep them from leaving with your Baby and selling her again in a different town?

Secondly, I would worry about infection. That's where she got sick in the first place isn't it? It would be easy for her to get re-infected or pick up something else since her immune system is compromised right now.

Finally, I would take her to a new vet ASAP to be re-evaluated. I know it will cost you even more money, but I think it's important. Just have him/her check Baby over and make sure it's the right treatment for her. Maybe you can figure out a way to give her the breathing treatments yourself. Who knows? It doesn't hurt to ask. Tell the vet what you told us about the Clavamox. That concerns me. Who knows how long she's been on that now.

Bottom line...please don't take her back to the sellers and please see a new vet ASAP. Keep us updated.

Hugs!

Samantha Ashhad · 07-04-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Here's a really good link on Pneumonia management that you should read it is extremely informative. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...anagement.html

Good luck with Baby!!!!

Thank you. Could you possibly send me the link again? It didn't work.

:-)Samantha

Samantha Ashhad · 07-04-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy in Waco

Hi Samantha,
My computer seems to have some issues tonight, so I'm not sure if I will be online much longer. I will check in tomorrow morning. I want to leave you with these thoughts...

First, please do NOT take Baby back tomorrow for a treatment or anything else. My gut feeling is that these people are puppy brokers for a puppy mill or mills. These types of people sound nice or who would buy from them? They are in it for the money and cannot be trusted. Who can say if they are doing what they say they are doing in terms of her treatment? I almost hate to say this, but I have heard of cases where the same puppy is sold over and over. You did say they have moved a lot right? What would keep them from leaving with your Baby and selling her again in a different town?

Secondly, I would worry about infection. That's where she got sick in the first place isn't it? It would be easy for her to get re-infected or pick up something else since her immune system is compromised right now.

Finally, I would take her to a new vet ASAP to be re-evaluated. I know it will cost you even more money, but I think it's important. Just have him/her check Baby over and make sure it's the right treatment for her. Maybe you can figure out a way to give her the breathing treatments yourself. Who knows? It doesn't hurt to ask. Tell the vet what you told us about the Clavamox. That concerns me. Who knows how long she's been on that now.

Bottom line...please don't take her back to the sellers and please see a new vet ASAP. Keep us updated.

Hugs!

I have come to that conclusion also. They get the puppies from the breeder and sell it and make money on them here. The breeder seems to know way more about dogs than them. When they have issues or questions, they get on the phone with the breeder ASAP for questions. If I ask questions they say they will find out and call the breeder. I am still waiting for the damn s hot records that I have been nagging about for the longest. They really appear as though they are trying to help, but then again I am naive and trust people too much I guess. Because they have been respectful and almost always pick up the phone on me, I just can't be rude and treathful to them in regards to court etc. I really don't want to go that route. They keep offering me to get me another puppy. I made it clear to them today that I can't deal with the fact that they would put her to sleep if I even took her back to them- which I won't- and they said they wouldn't do that. I know they would if it cost them too much though, that was crystal clear from the conversation. I asked about the medicine and they were'nt sure what it was called but said it was an antiobiotic starting with A.... and something called Deo..... They weren't sure about the names but when asked how he got it, he said from the breeder who is familiar with this stuff; not a vet.
Baby is only going to do this treatment for 1 or 2 more days and then they said she'll rest from it for a week. I will take her to a different vet this week and find out how I can give her the treatment myself at home because I definitley feel safer doing that.
The reason I declined letting them have her for the whole week was because I was worried about her getting worse being around the other dog there who is also sick; that's why I drop her off and pick her up so she can be with me.
They reassured me they will get her well. We'll see. I also agree and wish they would just offer to pay for the vet bills instead of trying to act like doctors and doing it at home. I don't know what to think.
I know where they live and have their numbers, including their son's number so I don't think they will take off on me but the strange thing is that the thought has crossed my mind and that is another reason I didn't want to leave her with them for a week. But then again they are very welcoming and me and my husband have met several of their friends and family memebers while we've dropped by to drop off or pick up Baby.

Samantha Ashhad · 07-04-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by daisy mae06

Yes great advice Kathy, I will be praying that baby gets well soon. Please get her.

Thank you!

Samantha Ashhad · 07-04-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wemple2

Samantha, Did they give you any paper work when you bought the puppy, does she have a health guarantee? I agree with Judy...go get your baby, don't ask them any questions yet, just bring Baby home. Then come back on here...we will get some other opinions from some of the people here that have dealt with this kind of thing to help you. My personal feeling is they are taking advantage of you. That Baby deserves better treatment and they should be responsible for that treatment. They sold you a sick puppy, that's just wrong. They should be footing the vet bills, not treating her at their place. She could very possibly need to be hospitalized. I want to see what other people here think. We will help you get Baby better. But most important thing to do now is get her out of there and back home with you. I pray that Baby will make it, that she will get the proper care. Good luck, come back here for further assistance. Please...

Thank you for caring. Yes, I really wish they could just take her or pay for vet services or at least go half on it but I'm in a situation where I don't have too many options either and am trying to take the help they are willing to give.

I've taken her to two vet's several times and at this point I've decided to switch to a different animal hospital again and go to a different place as I don't feel like they know what they are doing at this place. It doesn't appear as though they have a lot of experience. If neccesary still after that I need to do the breathing treatment myself at home and most importantly I need to find out how severe this pneumonia is on her. The vet showed me the Xray but it obviously didn't tell me much except that it looked different from the right side. Hopefully I'll have more answers by the end of this week. She is running after my Pomeranian right now, skipping like crazy, she's soooo cute! :-)

sunyluvsma · 07-05-2007, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerr36792

Here's a really good link on Pneumonia management that you should read it is extremely informative. http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...anagement.html

Good luck with Baby!!!!

Great Link! I've been to this site before and had forgot about it.

Thanks!

red98vett · 07-05-2007, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Samantha Ashhad

Please tell me what you think seems wrong with the situation so I don't think I'm just imagining stuff.
U see, me and my husband are confused too and feel like something seems weird with the whole situation. The impression I have right now is that the breeder in Arkansa is just breeding a bunch of Yorkies in an unhealthy enviorment and not taking care of them properly and working with this couple to selling the dogs in Las Vegas. This couple don't know anything about the dogs. Everything I ask they say they will find out. I have asked about the shot records at leat 7 times by now and still haven't gottne anything and the same with the so called AKC registry. Yesterday the lady said she swears on the bible the dog is registered because I started questioning her on it. She said she just has been busy since all of a sudden last week her 50 year old husband got a heart attack and has to get 5 bypass surgery and at the same time they are saying that they were out of town and at the same time moved to a new place. I don't know what to think. It's hard for me to think bad about people but I am sceptic. They just seem so nice in person. I'm confused.

Sweetie - you bought your puppy from a broker, who in my opinion is no better than a PET STORE - PLEASE report them if all their dogs are sick - that's so unfair for all the little puppies in their care.

People like that are only in it for the money and don't care a bit about these dogs. I would't expect any papers from them either if they're coming up with all those BS excuses.

I wish you all the best with your baby - but if they aren't getting the other puppies medical attention and are housing this many puppies - maybe a call to the ASPCA is in order. They can at least go check out the living conditions - make sure the puppies are getting medical attention and issue a citation to them if they aren't.

ps - edited - PLEASE don't return her - they'll have her put to sleep. People like that don't want extra expenses and they will NOT get her medical attention. As far as her real breeder goes - don't count on them either - any breeder who sells to a broker obviously isn't a caring etihcal breeder

Judy in Waco · 07-05-2007, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Sweetie - you bought your puppy from a broker, who in my opinion is no better than a PET STORE - PLEASE report them if all their dogs are sick - that's so unfair for all the little puppies in their care.

People like that are only in it for the money and don't care a bit about these dogs. I would't expect any papers from them either if they're coming up with all those BS excuses.

I wish you all the best with your baby - but if they aren't getting the other puppies medical attention and are housing this many puppies - maybe a call to the ASPCA is in order. They can at least go check out the living conditions - make sure the puppies are getting medical attention and issue a citation to them if they aren't.

ps - edited - PLEASE don't return her - they'll have her put to sleep. People like that don't want extra expenses and they will NOT get her medical attention. As far as her real breeder goes - don't count on them either - any breeder who sells to a broker obviously isn't a caring etihcal breeder

I agree with her Samantha. Please don't take her back for a treatment this morning. Call a local animal rescue group, and they can tell you how to report them and help refer you to a new vet.

I am going to do some research now on who to contact in Las Vegas, and I'll get back to you.

Gizmo says "Hi" to you and Baby!

Judy in Waco · 07-05-2007, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Judy in Waco

I agree with her Samantha. Please don't take her back for a treatment this morning. Call a local animal rescue group, and they can tell you how to report them and help refer you to a new vet.

I am going to do some research now on who to contact in Las Vegas, and I'll get back to you.

Gizmo says "Hi" to you and Baby!

You have what appears to be a good local resource..The Nevada SPCA. Here's a link to their website. Please call them today. I'm sure they can help you find a good local vet and walk you through the reporting process.

http://www.nevadaspca.org/

Please keep us updated. Hugs to you and Baby!

CO_yorkie_momma · 07-05-2007, 07:24 AM

Hun I think everytime you send your puppy back there you are exposing it to who knows what. They dont know enough about dogs to be treating them for anything. THey dont even know the names of the medications. Something that starts with A?????? Geez, what do they know about giving breathing treatments or anything else besides selling sick puppies and taking your money. That is what their job is and they dont know anything about the rest of it. When you dropped her off, did you see the rest of the dogs and how they lived or anything. That is just scary and if I were you I would cut my losses with them and run.

wemple2 · 07-05-2007, 08:38 AM

Samantha...How's Baby? Praying that you get the help you need, and that she can get better. You've been given some very useful advise here...and I'm sure there is more to come...Keep the faith...love your Baby!!! Do not under any circumstances take her back there...they are not helping you or Baby. Report them to the proper authorities...They don't have to know it was you, so don't feel guilty...They do not care about anything but the money...remember that!!! Get Baby checked out by a reputable vet soon...I'm sure she requires additional treatment, who knows what she was exposed to over and over again. How old is your Baby? When did you get her? My Winston and I both hope Baby will get well soon...she deserves to be taken care of, so she can live the happy life that you want for her...Bless you and Baby.

KathyinCali · 07-05-2007, 01:09 PM

In Lucy's first week with me she developed a cough. I took her to the vet (same as my breeder uses) and they said she had kennel cough but that they would like to do an xray to make sure she didn't have pneumonia. Turned out she didn't but they called the breeder to let them know just in case and my breeder called my house before I got home to tell me he was paying the vet for the visit and xray so I would have a credit with them. Anyway, my point is that if she had had pneumonia they would have kept her until they felt safe to let her go home rather than sending her home with ABiotics.

I hope your baby gets better soon.

Bnot · 07-05-2007, 05:40 PM

I smelled broker all over this one after you said they lived in Las Vegas and got different sized pups from Arkansas.

Hon, I've never been guided in the wrong direction from folks on this site.

I hope your baby gets better, and please, listen to the folks helping you here, they can tell you how to recoop some of your money at least. And how to get these folks selling sick dogs busted!

Nobody deserves to get a sick pup! Thats just not "good business".

You need to work fast, sometimes these folks can be here one day, and poof a week from now (probably gone to get another litter or 5).

I'm sure you may have never heard of a broker. They buy many litters at a time, dirt cheap, usually from puppy mills, for a set price per litter, have them shipped whatever way they can (usually certainly not how you'd want your dog to travel) to them, then sell them for a fat profit. Many of the pups are sick before they get them, and those that weren't, got sick from being shipped with so many other sick puppies.

Brokers usually have no clue on how to take care of sick puppies. All they see in $$$$ in their pockets. Thats why they constantly on the phone asking the breeder. I'm sure the breeder could care less, if they are puppy mills, and already have their $$'s for the litter. Sometimes, they get many puppies from different mills, and ship them in small cages, with all puppies piled on top of each other many miles across the country. If even one pup is sick, under those conditions, they all get sick.

I know you love Baby, and will do what you have to to get her well. I hope you get what you deserve, a healthy baby, and most of what you spend on vet bills back. God bless you and good luck with this!

Judy in Waco · 07-06-2007, 04:53 AM

Good Morning,
How's Baby today? Do you have any other photos of her? Would love to see them.

07-04-2007, 08:55 PM	#32
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	Hi Samantha, My computer seems to have some issues tonight, so I'm not sure if I will be online much longer. I will check in tomorrow morning. I want to leave you with these thoughts... First, please do NOT take Baby back tomorrow for a treatment or anything else. My gut feeling is that these people are puppy brokers for a puppy mill or mills. These types of people sound nice or who would buy from them? They are in it for the money and cannot be trusted. Who can say if they are doing what they say they are doing in terms of her treatment? I almost hate to say this, but I have heard of cases where the same puppy is sold over and over. You did say they have moved a lot right? What would keep them from leaving with your Baby and selling her again in a different town? Secondly, I would worry about infection. That's where she got sick in the first place isn't it? It would be easy for her to get re-infected or pick up something else since her immune system is compromised right now. Finally, I would take her to a new vet ASAP to be re-evaluated. I know it will cost you even more money, but I think it's important. Just have him/her check Baby over and make sure it's the right treatment for her. Maybe you can figure out a way to give her the breathing treatments yourself. Who knows? It doesn't hurt to ask. Tell the vet what you told us about the Clavamox. That concerns me. Who knows how long she's been on that now. Bottom line...please don't take her back to the sellers and please see a new vet ASAP. Keep us updated. Hugs! __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

07-05-2007, 08:38 AM	#42
wemple2 Wee Winston Wiggles Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kewanee, Illinois Posts: 9,666	Samantha...How's Baby? Praying that you get the help you need, and that she can get better. You've been given some very useful advise here...and I'm sure there is more to come...Keep the faith...love your Baby!!! Do not under any circumstances take her back there...they are not helping you or Baby. Report them to the proper authorities...They don't have to know it was you, so don't feel guilty...They do not care about anything but the money...remember that!!! Get Baby checked out by a reputable vet soon...I'm sure she requires additional treatment, who knows what she was exposed to over and over again. How old is your Baby? When did you get her? My Winston and I both hope Baby will get well soon...she deserves to be taken care of, so she can live the happy life that you want for her...Bless you and Baby. __________________ As Ever, Kathy Intruducing Bentley Winston and Spencer: RIP My Sweet Angels

07-05-2007, 01:09 PM	#43
KathyinCali Love My Li'l Lucy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,700	In Lucy's first week with me she developed a cough. I took her to the vet (same as my breeder uses) and they said she had kennel cough but that they would like to do an xray to make sure she didn't have pneumonia. Turned out she didn't but they called the breeder to let them know just in case and my breeder called my house before I got home to tell me he was paying the vet for the visit and xray so I would have a credit with them. Anyway, my point is that if she had had pneumonia they would have kept her until they felt safe to let her go home rather than sending her home with ABiotics. I hope your baby gets better soon. __________________ Kathy and Lil' Lucy and Jammies Rest in Peace my Sweet Buster

07-06-2007, 04:53 AM	#45
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	Good Morning, How's Baby today? Do you have any other photos of her? Would love to see them. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

07-05-2007, 07:24 AM	#41
CO_yorkie_momma My Angels Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Colorful Colorado Posts: 2,260	Hun I think everytime you send your puppy back there you are exposing it to who knows what. They dont know enough about dogs to be treating them for anything. THey dont even know the names of the medications. Something that starts with A?????? Geez, what do they know about giving breathing treatments or anything else besides selling sick puppies and taking your money. That is what their job is and they dont know anything about the rest of it. When you dropped her off, did you see the rest of the dogs and how they lived or anything. That is just scary and if I were you I would cut my losses with them and run.

07-05-2007, 05:40 PM	#44
Bnot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mobile AL Posts: 1,399	I smelled broker all over this one after you said they lived in Las Vegas and got different sized pups from Arkansas. Hon, I've never been guided in the wrong direction from folks on this site. I hope your baby gets better, and please, listen to the folks helping you here, they can tell you how to recoop some of your money at least. And how to get these folks selling sick dogs busted! Nobody deserves to get a sick pup! Thats just not "good business". You need to work fast, sometimes these folks can be here one day, and poof a week from now (probably gone to get another litter or 5). I'm sure you may have never heard of a broker. They buy many litters at a time, dirt cheap, usually from puppy mills, for a set price per litter, have them shipped whatever way they can (usually certainly not how you'd want your dog to travel) to them, then sell them for a fat profit. Many of the pups are sick before they get them, and those that weren't, got sick from being shipped with so many other sick puppies. Brokers usually have no clue on how to take care of sick puppies. All they see in $$$$ in their pockets. Thats why they constantly on the phone asking the breeder. I'm sure the breeder could care less, if they are puppy mills, and already have their $$'s for the litter. Sometimes, they get many puppies from different mills, and ship them in small cages, with all puppies piled on top of each other many miles across the country. If even one pup is sick, under those conditions, they all get sick. I know you love Baby, and will do what you have to to get her well. I hope you get what you deserve, a healthy baby, and most of what you spend on vet bills back. God bless you and good luck with this!