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luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

Kelly is sounds like she does or did have an infection...I had a bitch post whelp act very simular, vet saw her 24 hours later...an injection of penicillin and 7 days of clavamox did the job...but remember it takes two to three days for the fever to break, the antibiotics take time...I took her temp every 4 hours (went to 105) and iced mom down every 4 hours (with frozen peas against her belly and dampened her head) for two days to keep her comfortable.

OH THANK YOU KIM! Thats what I needed to hear, a similair story.......I have no patience WHATSOEVER when it comes to things like this, kinda like a dog chasing their tail..........LOL..........this has been so scarey.
She has acted so unlike herself I had visions of her dying. Her eyes were dull and matted looking. She even was stumbling some when she walked.
Again thanks and Ill update on what the vet says. HUGS
ANd the SHE I have been talking about is named Bowgirl. SHe has a name

I should have called her by name.

feminvstr · 11-01-2006, 08:02 AM

Kelly I wouldnt be using Baytril on any pregnant or nursing bitch....ask your vet to change to clavamox if antibiotics are still needed... In immature dogs (less than 8 months of age) damage to joint cartilage can occur when prescribed Baytril.

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 08:18 AM

I have 5 pills left and Ill stop them. I see him today and ask him to switch the antibiotics, and also ask "What the heck where you thinking?" Actually Ill just ask to switch and tell him why.
Thank you for telling me that info, I just read up on Baytril this am and wanted to ask him.....why he prescribed this particular antibiotic. I know he likes this particular drug for some reason. He prescribed it recently for a dog I had with a tooth infection. I asked him about this Med and contraindictions on possible pregnant females. He said he recommended this drug. I would rather be safe then sorry......I want it switched.

One question. DO you recommend Oxytocin after whelp? Do you use it? My vet asked me about my feelings on using oxytocin regularly. I said I didnt know.
Any recommendation?

feminvstr · 11-01-2006, 08:34 AM

its always better to be safe...if you feel for any reason there is any left over placenta oxy is a god send...Ive not had to use it to induce contractions but have used it within 24 hours of whelping...

My girl China... I had given her the oxy the very next morning by the evening she was not eating, by that next afternoon her temp escalated to over 105...my vet was able to massaging the piece of placenta down and we pulled it out, I had her paws on my shoulder her back feet were on the table while he massaged her lower belly.

Here is a drug list to keep handy
http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=856
unfortunately what ever you give mom goes into her milk and the babies.

JCarlson2004 · 11-01-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

Hi Jennifer! ALL the posts are very recent from this am so its pending how she is. She is sleeping right now and real sick of me coming in and bothering her

Awww well it sounds like she's feeling a bit better!! Give her a kiss from me!

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 08:52 AM

Jennifer, YES I think she is feeling better.

Kim Thanks for the drug list. Well I havent kept Oxy on hand but I think I will now. As far as giving it regularly??????......I dont know havent made up my mind......the less drugs the better, but if theres doubt it certainly would be a good thing to have around.

Breny · 11-01-2006, 08:54 AM

Hi Kelly....I hope she's doing better real soon! She'll be in my thoughts!!! Please keep us posted after the vet visit. I hope she's better soon!!!!

feminvstr · 11-01-2006, 09:28 AM

for future reference it vital to keep mom cooled down and hydrated while the drugs are taking effect (it can take two to three days for the temp to return to normal). I take the temp every couple hours, I used anything in the freezer wrap it in a t-towel and put it on her belly for about 10 minutes (even guilty of using hot dogs still in the wrapper lol)...

YorkieRose · 11-01-2006, 09:44 AM

Glad your bitch is doing better, Kim gave you good advise and you were on top of the situation...it no doubt has prevented an infection from taking hold...I always use oxyie after whelping.

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by feminvstr

for future reference it vital to keep mom cooled down and hydrated while the drugs are taking effect (it can take two to three days for the temp to return to normal). I take the temp every couple hours, I used anything in the freezer wrap it in a t-towel and put it on her belly for about 10 minutes (even guilty of using hot dogs still in the wrapper lol)...

As far as the hotdogs kim

great idea if they start to gain back their appetite, they can just turn around and start eating the hotdogs!!

Joke!

I did try to keep her hydrated and I thought about cooling her otherwise but was afraid of chilling the pups. So that I did not do, good future reference info.

Yorkierose? To try to get her clean, the vet had me give 0.1 cc twice a day for two days. Now Im going to the vet to get a follow up on Bowgirl so I can ask My vet.........but I wondered what dosage is typical for you for after whelping oxy and when is the appropriate time to administer it? 12 hrs later or right away, etc?
She certainly looked critically ill and acted it. Im sure if she wasnt treated she would be near death or gone by now.
I truly appreciate each and everyones posts and support. This is what makes yorkie talk such a wonderful community, valuable tool for learning and much needed support when someone is in great need of it. SOmetimes giving almost instance relief!

Julz · 11-01-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

I have 5 pills left and Ill stop them. I see him today and ask him to switch the antibiotics, and also ask "What the heck where you thinking?" Actually Ill just ask to switch and tell him why.
Thank you for telling me that info, I just read up on Baytril this am and wanted to ask him.....why he prescribed this particular antibiotic. I know he likes this particular drug for some reason. He prescribed it recently for a dog I had with a tooth infection. I asked him about this Med and contraindictions on possible pregnant females. He said he recommended this drug. I would rather be safe then sorry......I want it switched.

One question. DO you recommend Oxytocin after whelp? Do you use it? My vet asked me about my feelings on using oxytocin regularly. I said I didnt know.
Any recommendation?

I suggested Oxytocin to my vet when Tiah wasn't going into labor naturally. He said that can shred the uterus. That was news to me. Maybe it isn't so damaging after whelping. I'll have to do some research on it, that's for sure.

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Julz

I suggested Oxytocin to my vet when Tiah wasn't going into labor naturally. He said that can shred the uterus. That was news to me. Maybe it isn't so damaging after whelping. I'll have to do some research on it, that's for sure.

Im sure your vet had a reason for not wanting to give it, just guessing but he might have felt it was premature, if the utuerus sheds then it can cause bigger problems... internal bleeding, placentas separating before they are ready with puppies being born dead.. DiD your TIah go naturally by herself eventually without problems?

Julz · 11-01-2006, 11:07 AM

No, she never did go into labor and ended up having an emergency c-section. She was still acting fine, eating, and all was well as far as she was concerned. The pups were all lined up nicely (had an x-ray) on a Friday (pup in the birth canal and everything. Nothing Friday. Nothing Saturday. Nothing Sunday. Took her back in for another x-ray Monday....pups were all over the place (4) and the one had moved out of the birth canal. Vet assistant said take her home and keep an eye on her. My vet call Tuesday morning and asked how she was. She was perfectly fine, but zero signs of labor. They said to get her in there asap before we lost any pups or her. Had the c-section, and all is well. She was super huge this time...I thought she was having 7 puppies. I'll attach a picture a few days before she had her sugery...
2nd pic is with my Mom.

Julz · 11-01-2006, 11:10 AM

The little cutie in my avatar is her puppy "Jade" from that litter. They are now 5 weeks old.

I want to add that I am with a different vet this litter. I have had the shot AFTER to clean her out.

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 11:17 AM

Wow............she was huge!
Precious lil Jade puppy too. How many days prego was she when they took the babies? If Not 7 puppies how many? a dozen?

11-01-2006, 08:02 AM	#17
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	Kelly I wouldnt be using Baytril on any pregnant or nursing bitch....ask your vet to change to clavamox if antibiotics are still needed... In immature dogs (less than 8 months of age) damage to joint cartilage can occur when prescribed Baytril. __________________ Kimberly Last edited by feminvstr; 11-01-2006 at 08:04 AM.

11-01-2006, 08:34 AM	#19
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	its always better to be safe...if you feel for any reason there is any left over placenta oxy is a god send...Ive not had to use it to induce contractions but have used it within 24 hours of whelping... My girl China... I had given her the oxy the very next morning by the evening she was not eating, by that next afternoon her temp escalated to over 105...my vet was able to massaging the piece of placenta down and we pulled it out, I had her paws on my shoulder her back feet were on the table while he massaged her lower belly. Here is a drug list to keep handy http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=856 unfortunately what ever you give mom goes into her milk and the babies. __________________ Kimberly Last edited by feminvstr; 11-01-2006 at 08:37 AM.

11-01-2006, 08:54 AM	#22
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Hi Kelly....I hope she's doing better real soon! She'll be in my thoughts!!! Please keep us posted after the vet visit. I hope she's better soon!!!! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

11-01-2006, 09:28 AM	#23
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	for future reference it vital to keep mom cooled down and hydrated while the drugs are taking effect (it can take two to three days for the temp to return to normal). I take the temp every couple hours, I used anything in the freezer wrap it in a t-towel and put it on her belly for about 10 minutes (even guilty of using hot dogs still in the wrapper lol)... __________________ Kimberly

11-01-2006, 09:44 AM	#24
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	whelping Glad your bitch is doing better, Kim gave you good advise and you were on top of the situation...it no doubt has prevented an infection from taking hold...I always use oxyie after whelping.

11-01-2006, 08:18 AM	#18
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	I have 5 pills left and Ill stop them. I see him today and ask him to switch the antibiotics, and also ask "What the heck where you thinking?" Actually Ill just ask to switch and tell him why. Thank you for telling me that info, I just read up on Baytril this am and wanted to ask him.....why he prescribed this particular antibiotic. I know he likes this particular drug for some reason. He prescribed it recently for a dog I had with a tooth infection. I asked him about this Med and contraindictions on possible pregnant females. He said he recommended this drug. I would rather be safe then sorry......I want it switched. One question. DO you recommend Oxytocin after whelp? Do you use it? My vet asked me about my feelings on using oxytocin regularly. I said I didnt know. Any recommendation?

11-01-2006, 08:52 AM	#21
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Jennifer, YES I think she is feeling better. Kim Thanks for the drug list. Well I havent kept Oxy on hand but I think I will now. As far as giving it regularly??????......I dont know havent made up my mind......the less drugs the better, but if theres doubt it certainly would be a good thing to have around.

11-01-2006, 11:10 AM	#29
Julz Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 4,347	The little cutie in my avatar is her puppy "Jade" from that litter. They are now 5 weeks old. I want to add that I am with a different vet this litter. I have had the shot AFTER to clean her out. Last edited by Julz; 11-01-2006 at 11:13 AM.

11-01-2006, 11:17 AM	#30
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Wow............she was huge! Precious lil Jade puppy too. How many days prego was she when they took the babies? If Not 7 puppies how many? a dozen?