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kbnana · 10-31-2006, 07:31 PM

gosh things seemed to get back to normal, bella was back to her bouncy self.
the food the vet prescribed NF purina ( she has a small liver shunt) she hates and would not eat. So I bought some envoy supplement to get her to eat worked for few days now she has developed a severe bladder infection. I feel everything I try to get her back to normal fails. I am just at a loss I feel that I am harming her more than helping and would do anything to get her back to her normal self. She is around 3 and liver shunts appear when they are puppies. Does anyone have any ideas on where I could go to get some help?
We love this little girl very much and would do anything to get her well. We are going to the vet tomorrow a.m.

Kbnana

TootiesMom · 10-31-2006, 08:30 PM

I dont know but REALLY wish you luck getting your baby better! Maybe to a vet school? I know here, there are many more advanced tests at the LSU Vet School.....
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Lacy's Mom · 10-31-2006, 10:43 PM

Don't know if she is a candidate for surgery or if you can afford the surgery, but with one so young the prognosis for a successful surgery are favorable.

Don't know what envoy is, but here is a link to a homemade diet she may like.
http://www.vet.utk.edu/clinical/sacs...Liver_diet.pdf

Also talk to your doctor about prescribing lactulose which really helps liver shunts because it helps remove the toxic ammonia from their system.

Also, talk to yor doctor about giving cranberry extract because chronic UTIs might be a problem. Here's some info. on using cranberry.

Also you may want to look into a product called Pet Home Check up so you can check for UTIs (among other things) on a monthly basis. http://www.thepetcheckup.com/

Cranberries and cranberry juice have been proven effective for treatment of urinary tract infections in humans (e.g. cystitis)and bladder stones in animals in a number of clinical trials. Researchers used to believe the action of cranberry juice is due to acidifying the urine and the antibacterial effects of a cranberry component, hippuric acid but recent studies have shown components in cranberry juice to reduce the ability of bacteria to adhere to the lining of the bladder and urethra. In order for bacteria to infect, they must first adhere to the mucosa. Thus, taking cranberry products, the causative bacteria are flushed, preventing their colonization of the urinary tract. The more the patients drinks liquid or takes the extract of concentrated juice, the more effectively the bacteria are flushed out from the urinary bladder.

While cranberry juice/extract is indicated as an effective treatment for urinary tract infections in pets, most cranberry juices on the market contain one-third cranberry juice mixed with water and sugar. Since sugar has such a detrimental effect on the immune system, sweetened cranberry juice cannot be recommended. For obvious reasons, patient compliance may be very poor with unsweetened cranberry juice. Cranberry Extract (Capsules, tablets or powder) give your dog (or cat) the benefits of cranberry juice in easy to swallow forms, without added sugar or artificial sweeteners.

Cranberry supplements can provide you with an exact, pharmacologically effective daily dose with natural biologically active substances against urinary tract bacterial infections. Cranberry extract is high in natural vitamin C and other natural antioxidants (proanthocyanidines) and tannins that keep bacteria (E. coli) from clinging to the walls of the urinary bladder and the urinary tract.

Cranberry is used to prevent kidney stones and “bladder gravel” as well as to remove toxins from the blood. Cranberry has long been recommended for pets and persons with recurrent urinary tract infections (UTIs).

Cranberry prevents E. coli, the most common cause of UTIs and recurrent UTIs, from adhering to the cells lining the wall of the bladder. Cranberry's antiadherence action renders the bacteria harmless in the urinary tract. Cranberry has been shown to reduce bacteria levels in the urinary bladders of older women, which may help to prevent future infections. Cranberry can help people with urostomies and enterocystoplasties to keep them clear of mucus buildup.

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-01-2006, 06:20 AM

I dont have anything to add other then I hope Bella improves greatly soon.....like now!!!!!!!!
And Laceys mom that was a great post.

Lacy's Mom · 11-05-2006, 06:18 PM

How is bella doing?

10-31-2006, 07:31 PM	#1
kbnana YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 9	bella is sick again; gosh things seemed to get back to normal, bella was back to her bouncy self. the food the vet prescribed NF purina ( she has a small liver shunt) she hates and would not eat. So I bought some envoy supplement to get her to eat worked for few days now she has developed a severe bladder infection. I feel everything I try to get her back to normal fails. I am just at a loss I feel that I am harming her more than helping and would do anything to get her back to her normal self. She is around 3 and liver shunts appear when they are puppies. Does anyone have any ideas on where I could go to get some help? We love this little girl very much and would do anything to get her well. We are going to the vet tomorrow a.m. Kbnana

10-31-2006, 08:30 PM	#2
TootiesMom and Hopeys Mom Too Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,109	I dont know but REALLY wish you luck getting your baby better! Maybe to a vet school? I know here, there are many more advanced tests at the LSU Vet School..... d __________________ Donna's little herd.... Tooties Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?271687 Hopeys Dogster http://www.dogster.com/?448723 and Tinker, TBone(RIP) Laci .. OH, and Me-Kitty(RIP)

10-31-2006, 10:43 PM	#3
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	Don't know if she is a candidate for surgery or if you can afford the surgery, but with one so young the prognosis for a successful surgery are favorable. Don't know what envoy is, but here is a link to a homemade diet she may like. http://www.vet.utk.edu/clinical/sacs...Liver_diet.pdf Also talk to your doctor about prescribing lactulose which really helps liver shunts because it helps remove the toxic ammonia from their system. Also, talk to yor doctor about giving cranberry extract because chronic UTIs might be a problem. Here's some info. on using cranberry. Also you may want to look into a product called Pet Home Check up so you can check for UTIs (among other things) on a monthly basis. http://www.thepetcheckup.com/ Cranberries and cranberry juice have been proven effective for treatment of urinary tract infections in humans (e.g. cystitis)and bladder stones in animals in a number of clinical trials. Researchers used to believe the action of cranberry juice is due to acidifying the urine and the antibacterial effects of a cranberry component, hippuric acid but recent studies have shown components in cranberry juice to reduce the ability of bacteria to adhere to the lining of the bladder and urethra. In order for bacteria to infect, they must first adhere to the mucosa. Thus, taking cranberry products, the causative bacteria are flushed, preventing their colonization of the urinary tract. The more the patients drinks liquid or takes the extract of concentrated juice, the more effectively the bacteria are flushed out from the urinary bladder. While cranberry juice/extract is indicated as an effective treatment for urinary tract infections in pets, most cranberry juices on the market contain one-third cranberry juice mixed with water and sugar. Since sugar has such a detrimental effect on the immune system, sweetened cranberry juice cannot be recommended. For obvious reasons, patient compliance may be very poor with unsweetened cranberry juice. Cranberry Extract (Capsules, tablets or powder) give your dog (or cat) the benefits of cranberry juice in easy to swallow forms, without added sugar or artificial sweeteners. Cranberry supplements can provide you with an exact, pharmacologically effective daily dose with natural biologically active substances against urinary tract bacterial infections. Cranberry extract is high in natural vitamin C and other natural antioxidants (proanthocyanidines) and tannins that keep bacteria (E. coli) from clinging to the walls of the urinary bladder and the urinary tract. Cranberry is used to prevent kidney stones and “bladder gravel” as well as to remove toxins from the blood. Cranberry has long been recommended for pets and persons with recurrent urinary tract infections (UTIs). Cranberry prevents E. coli, the most common cause of UTIs and recurrent UTIs, from adhering to the cells lining the wall of the bladder. Cranberry's antiadherence action renders the bacteria harmless in the urinary tract. Cranberry has been shown to reduce bacteria levels in the urinary bladders of older women, which may help to prevent future infections. Cranberry can help people with urostomies and enterocystoplasties to keep them clear of mucus buildup.

11-01-2006, 06:20 AM	#4
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	I dont have anything to add other then I hope Bella improves greatly soon.....like now!!!!!!!! And Laceys mom that was a great post.

11-05-2006, 06:18 PM	#5
Lacy's Mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 3,065	How is bella doing?