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Old 09-22-2006, 03:30 PM   #1
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Hi all,
I just wanted to write to ask if anyone has ever had a problem with Viral Papilloma with there little furbabies. This is a wart, growth in or around the gum, lips, tongue area.
Babybear got a growth under his tongue about a week and a half after he had his neck fused together. Actually right after he got off his antibiotics. So I took him back to my stupid vet(sorry not happy with them) and he gave me antibiotics for his growth. Babybear wouldn't actually let the vet look at it he tried to bite him. lol I would have if he didn't. They wanted to sadate him again. He has gone through so much I could let them do it. So I gave him the meds and it seem to get smaller. So I took him back for a recheck and they said oh it looks all gone. NOT. So I waited for his surgeon to see him and he told me if it isn't bothering Babybear don't worry about it. Well now it is. So I called today to see what it would cost to have it removed and almost fell on the floor they said 1200.00 this thing isn't even a inch long, but he keeps biting it when he eats. Well I came home and researched growths under tongues and came up with the Viral Papiloma. It looks like a little piece of cawliflour just pink in color. IT says that they will go away on there own in 1 to 5 months. I have never seen anything like this before, but just wanted to know if anyone here has ever delt with it. IF so please let me know.
I wish the train would stop with this little guy. It seems to be one thing after another. But hopefully we are on the right track now. I just made his wheelchair so we are going to attempt walking this weekend. Keep your fingers and toes crossed please.
Thank you everyone here for giving me so much help in my time of need.
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That poor little guy! He is having a long streak of bad luck, isn't he?

Val,

Why can't they do this? They do it with people.

or frozen off cryogenically

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body...apillomas.html

Or can they not do it, because it's in his mouth?
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Old 09-22-2006, 06:33 PM   #3
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I haven't had that problem, but I hope your baby feels better soon!
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Poot little guy! Hope it goes away quickly.
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If it's supposed to go away on its own -- let's hope that that happens.

I know sometimes it does seem like "one thing after another."

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Hi all,
I just wanted to write to ask if anyone has ever had a problem with Viral Papilloma with there little furbabies. This is a wart, growth in or around the gum, lips, tongue area.
Babybear got a growth under his tongue about a week and a half after he had his neck fused together. Actually right after he got off his antibiotics. So I took him back to my stupid vet(sorry not happy with them) and he gave me antibiotics for his growth. Babybear wouldn't actually let the vet look at it he tried to bite him. lol I would have if he didn't. They wanted to sadate him again. He has gone through so much I could let them do it. So I gave him the meds and it seem to get smaller. So I took him back for a recheck and they said oh it looks all gone. NOT. So I waited for his surgeon to see him and he told me if it isn't bothering Babybear don't worry about it. Well now it is. So I called today to see what it would cost to have it removed and almost fell on the floor they said 1200.00 this thing isn't even a inch long, but he keeps biting it when he eats. Well I came home and researched growths under tongues and came up with the Viral Papiloma. It looks like a little piece of cawliflour just pink in color. IT says that they will go away on there own in 1 to 5 months. I have never seen anything like this before, but just wanted to know if anyone here has ever delt with it. IF so please let me know.
I wish the train would stop with this little guy. It seems to be one thing after another. But hopefully we are on the right track now. I just made his wheelchair so we are going to attempt walking this weekend. Keep your fingers and toes crossed please.
Thank you everyone here for giving me so much help in my time of need.
Val
It is viral, antibiotics are a waste of money. Excision is unnecessary and a waste of money. Let it run its course it will spontaneously disappear. If it is at the cauliflower appearance stage, it is almost run its course and will disappear soon. You will suddenly one day look for it and it will be gone. They can disappear literally overnight.
NOt many Vets know how to deal with these which is bascially, do nothing.
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Update on the growth. Well it is still there. I am hoping it will go down soon. He has had a hard time eating the past couple of days. I am feeding him pieces of chicken and he can eat that okay. HMMMM. I wonder if I am spoiling him to much. It just seems that when he eats you see him trying to get that growth out of the way. It lays on his back teeth.
It said in the article to make sure his teeth are kept clean. Well he fights me on the teeth so I ordered some of that jell from petzlife it came in with in two days. He doesn't like it but at least his teeth will be clean. And hopefully this thing will go away.
Thanks for all your help on this.
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I did some research on this since I had never heard of it and came across this article. Since it is viral I would at least look at giving a immune booster supplement. It sounds like surgery is not a good option (especially at that price) because they can get rid of the growth, but not the virus so it reappears.

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It was determined that the lump was a viral papilloma, a term meaning viral wart. But a little more than a month later, it came back. It was growing faster than before and was even worse looking. I sought out several opinions and I was told that some options were another surgery, cryogenics, or laser removal. None of those sounded good to me simply because removing it from the outside of the body did not work. Some human topical medications were also proposed but I was concerned about Divot licking the medication off and there was no way I was going to put her in an E-collar for the duration of the treatment. I called Marina and asked if she could help. She said she could. She suggested 3 products: One was a product called Bioprin (Chinese name Bao Xing). This is a concoction of Chinese herbs all possessing anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties. Another product was a homeopathic for warts, simply called "Wart." The third product was colostrum. Colostrum is the mother's first milk and it's packed with all sorts of natural immune strengthening nutrients. I began by giving Divot 2 Bioprin and 2 colostrum capsules per day, and also administering the wart drops (orally) 3 times per day. Marina also told me that I could also use the Bioprin to make a paste and apply that directly to the wart twice a day. I must admit that I was hopeful but a little skeptical. It just sounded too easy. I knew that if this didn't work, some sort of surgical procedure was on the horizon for little Divot. But it worked! Within 7 days the wart had simply vanished. As I write this story, it has been over 2 years since the treatment and the wart has not come back. You might read this and be skeptical. I can't blame you. In the world of Western medicine, this doesn't make sense. It's just too easy. Maybe you think it was just luck and it was going to fall off anyway right? I have a friend (formerly of Chicago) who also has a Norwich and about a month after Divot's wart was surgically removed, her dog was diagnosed with the same type of wart, except this wart was between the pads of the foot. She knew of my experience with Divot because I had told the story to my Norwich Terrier group (web link). Her dog had the surgery to remove the wart but about several months later, it too reappeared. My friend called and asked for more details about Divot's treatment. She didn't want her little dog to face another surgery and she promptly called Marina. Because the diagnosis was the same, the same treatment was given and the same results occurred. Rather than cutting the wart off, and leaving the offending virus intact within the dog's body, the offending virus was eradicated and could not continue to exist and grow. By strengthening the immune system, the dog's body became inhospitable to the virus. The holistic approach treats from within, to restore health, not simply masking the problem.
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Thank you Lacy'smom. That was very informitive. I am going to have to look into this. My only problem with it is Babybear's growth is in his mouth so I would have a hard time putting the medicain on it. And then finding out how much I would have to give a 10 pound dog. I will have to look into this. Thank you again.
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It sounds like she was giving all the meds by mouth (even the "Wart") even though her growth was not in the mouth. With herbal preparations I've always been told to take the dosage on the bottle and divide it by 150 and then multiply it by the dog's weight to begin with and if no problems occur, then up the dose by dividing it by 100 and multiplying by the dog's weight.
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Here's the link to the article, Divot was a Norwich Terrier and looks pretty small.

http://www.norwichtales.com/xhtml/ou...ic_journey.htm

Here's a link to the holistic practitioner, Marina, maybe she could provide you with a dosage????

http://www.naturalrearing.com/how_to_contact_us.htm
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Thank you very much Lacy's mom I just wrote a letter to both Barbara and Marina. I am hoping to hear back from them soon. Thank you again.
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