grade 2-3 LP. Surgery price HIGH

[ladyjane]

Adding the other knee should not add that much to the bill. Just for curiosity's sake, I would ask how much it would be if they repaired both knees.

I do believe that if that price is for one knee, they are very high; and, yes, I will bet that U of P will be less. Of course we have to also remember that different parts of the country have different pricing for things. The general cost of living here in Texas is pretty reasonable compared to what I found in NJ.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by maggiefromnj

Thanks for the input. The challenge now is to find a supplement she will eat. I just ordered 2 pounds of Premium joint care from Drs FosterandSmith and she will only eat it if I catch her in the right mood. She will happily eat Heartgaurd chews, chicken jerky (likes my homemade 100% chicken only the best) and she loves Pedigree mini jumb. Thats about it for treats, not counting roasted/boiled chicken.

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In my other post, I had suggested GlycoFlex III....perhaps you may want to check that supplement out.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Wait until she is lame?

Yes, that's what I said. Surgeons here won't fix knees until that happens or unless there is a CCL tear (except in the case of a puppy with severe Grade IVs).

[107barney]

Also, in 2002, we paid $1500 for one knee. I paid $2900 for a CCL and MPL repair for my older dog 3 years ago. So for the northeast that price is about the same for a boarded surgeon. A friend paid $3,000 for one knee on a puppy about 4 years ago.

[ShowGirlLola]

I don't know anything about knee surgury, but yeah vets are expensive in this area.
I paid $700-800 for Lola's spay, including blood work
My cousin paid like $500 for a dental (cleaning and pull a few teeth) then about $1000 for reversal meds, fluids, and an overnight stay at the ER vet when the first vet ODed her dog on pain meds.
My friend paid about $2000 when her boxer ate a dishtowel.

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Adding the other knee should not add that much to the bill. Just for curiosity's sake, I would ask how much it would be if they repaired both knees.

I do believe that if that price is for one knee, they are very high; and, yes, I will bet that U of P will be less. Of course we have to also remember that different parts of the country have different pricing for things. The general cost of living here in Texas is pretty reasonable compared to what I found in NJ.

NJ is much more expensive than TX, my best friend's family has lived in both places.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Yes, that's what I said. Surgeons here won't fix knees until that happens or unless there is a CCL tear (except in the case of a puppy with severe Grade IVs).

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by 107barney

Yes, that's what I said. Surgeons here won't fix knees until that happens or unless there is a CCL tear (except in the case of a puppy with severe Grade IVs).

Same here at least for the majority of them. Some will still recommend surgery. It really is ridiculous though imo....every one of my personal pups has some degree of LP. If they tear a ligament, they will then have the ligament repaired and knee at the same time. To repair them as adults is not gaining a thing really....they already have wear and tear on the ligament and fixing the knee is not going to prevent a tear that will require surgery. The knee can be repaired at the same time the ligament is. I am not willing to put them through an unnecessary surgery only to have them be faced with another down the road.

[ladyjane]

Some of these prices sound a bit high. We may be comparing LP surgery to CCL repair surgery. Repairing LP is much less than CCL surgery.

[maggiefromnj]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

In my other post, I had suggested GlycoFlex III....perhaps you may want to check that supplement out.

I found the best price to be on pureformulas.com. Not sure how reputable that site is or isn't. I did go to the Vetri-science site to see the labeling for the minis vs the regular. I'm not sure if you can overdose this stuff, but the regular has a much higher amount. I know I can split the larger ones. I might order the mini's just because I can get them for less $ to see if she likes them. She turns her nose up at so many things. If she likes them, then maybe I will ship the other ones back to Dr Fosters and Smith depending on what I paid and what it costs to ship back.

I looked up the fish oil the vet suggested and it comes in a liquid as well as softgel. I wonder if I could sneak the liquid by her in her food....

[Lovetodream88]

I think there are occasional circumstances where an adult may need LP surgery with out the ACL tearing. Callie was showing lots of pain with her LP, not wanting to run or play and acting very depressed. When the surgeon was examining her he could tell when he popped her knee out that it was causing her pain. Her whole body was tightening up and tensing up. After her first surgery which was to repair her LP and her ACL we were told her ACL would more then likely tear in the other knee in 18 months. It never did. We knew the knee was bothering her because we could tell so we waited and waited and it became where we were going to the vet for pain meds way to often and the vet suggested going back and having it looked at so we did. He agreed it was bothering her a lot and recommended the surgery. I know he is not money hungry because when Callie jumped off the couch once (she was maybe 2 years old) she was limping and would not put her front leg down and we rushed her to the er vet at 2am where I was not pleased with the service but Callie started walking on it but we requested X-rays and nothing was found so we went home and she was limping again. We went to our vet the next day and the vet looked at the X-rays and saw nothing but when she touched a spot in her shoulder she screamed. This was the first time we were referred to and meet our orthopedic surgeon. He sedated Callie for X-rays and found her shoulder/front leg was over extending when she would jump down/land. He actually recommended the conservative approach rather then looking at surgery and that is what worked. Great guy and I trust him big time. I think it's important that you are the one who knows your dog and if they are hurting.

[107barney]

In my experience, they need to be strictly rested for about 4-6 weeks with a flare. They also need to be good weights and not be overweight. I'm not a believer in supplements but that Adequan is amazing.

[MissSunni]

If you don't have pet insurance yet..I highly suggest you get it before the surgery..at least you will be reimbursed a good portion of the money you pay out. Its really not terribly expensive per month. I learned that the hard way. I hope Maggie gets better soon. Best of luck! PS…everything is more expensive in NJ! Thats why we have the greatest exodus rate in the country, lol.

[107barney]

Originally Posted by MissSunni

If you don't have pet insurance yet..I highly suggest you get it before the surgery..at least you will be reimbursed a good portion of the money you pay out. Its really not terribly expensive per month. I learned that the hard way. I hope Maggie gets better soon. Best of luck! PS…everything is more expensive in NJ! Thats why we have the greatest exodus rate in the country, lol.

Once a dog has a pre-existing condition, you can't get pet insurance for that problem.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by MissSunni

If you don't have pet insurance yet..I highly suggest you get it before the surgery..at least you will be reimbursed a good portion of the money you pay out. Its really not terribly expensive per month. I learned that the hard way. I hope Maggie gets better soon. Best of luck! PS…everything is more expensive in NJ! Thats why we have the greatest exodus rate in the country, lol.

It would be pre existing so it would not be covered.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by 107barney

I would wait until she is lame. My dog is going to be 15 in sept and has grade 4s. One was fixed at age two and the other never fixed and she does fine. I recently had a flare and my vet had me do twice a day Adequan shots and Daisy did amazing all for $20.

As for price, I think it's abot $2800-3000 here in the northeast for a repair.

Totally agree! I have 3 with varying degrees of LP and it's never been suggested they needed surgery. Unless your dog is lame they can live with LP.