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mindy10 · 09-07-2014, 06:54 AM

So I guess what I am saying if a dog does a quick fast cough as a puppy does not mean he has severe CT. I think it means he will have the chance of getting severe CT in the future when he gets older. Not all dogs with CT go into the severe case. Does that make sense

ladyjane · 09-07-2014, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mindy10

So I guess what I am saying if a dog does a quick fast cough as a puppy does not mean he has severe CT. I think it means he will have the chance of getting severe CT in the future when he gets older. Not all dogs with CT go into the severe case. Does that make sense

It doesn't even mean he has CT. As for how they will be in the future, no one has a crystal ball. There is no rhyme or reason to it.

It's really quite simple. If a dog is coughing, he/she needs to see a vet. If it continues perhaps further diagnostics are in order.

All I can say is: Be careful what you ask for.

mindy10 · 09-07-2014, 07:45 AM

Exactly we don't have a crystal ball so we don't know if it will get worse if it is ct. Not all coughs are due to ct but I feel from research most are.

chachi · 09-07-2014, 08:09 AM

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It doesn't even mean he has CT. As for how they will be in the future, no one has a crystal ball. There is no rhyme or reason to it.

It's really quite simple. If a dog is coughing, he/she needs to see a vet. If it continues perhaps further diagnostics are in order.

All I can say is: Be careful what you ask for.

It drives me crazy too. Someone will do a thread - My dog is coughing what are the signs and symptoms of CT and what can be done about it All I am thinking is why are you jumping the gun and thinking its CT it could be so many other things. Take your dog to the vet and find out before assuming the worst. At least when you know that it is or isnt then you can ;ook at what you need to do to manage it

matese · 09-07-2014, 08:33 AM

The only experience I have had with CT was back in early 1990's. At that time vets did not advise against using collars for leash walks. All My dogs had collars for leash walks. All my yorkies pulled like crazy on leash walks, I had 3 at that time, all 3 years apart. They pulled because who wanted to be the first one to get to their dog friends to get that first hello kiss from their buds. For years I tried to break their leash pulling, walking 3 dogs all pulling was not fun for me. One of my pups the middle one developed a cough, I thought nothing of it, but then it became worse, so off to the vet we went. It was diagnosed as CT from the constant pulling on the leash, remember, all my dogs wore collars. Even then the vet did not say not to use collars, I took it upon my self to use only harnesses on all 3 dogs. Also meds were not given for CT back then (I guess) The coughing lessened after she was put on the harness, She lived a healthy life for 6 or 7 years after diagnosed with CT. She died at age 13 y/o, in the house of a stroke. That has been my only experience with CT, so many years ago.

ladyjane · 09-07-2014, 08:56 AM

I had a dog with CT in the 90s and I absolutely was told not to leash walk him. I don't believe that collars necessarily cause CT...it is a weakening of the trachea and a collar will certainly aggravate but is not the total cause. The fact that three dogs you were walking all pulled and one had CT would make that obvious in my mind.

I have posted before about him. His name was Maxwell and I almost lost him after cervical disc surgery because of his trachea. That surgery was in 2004 .. he was old then and ended up passing away in 2006 but not from CT.

As for meds, they absolutely prescribed them for the symptoms of CT. One must remember that they are treating symptoms, not the condition as there is no med that will "fix it".

ladyjane · 09-07-2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

It drives me crazy too. Someone will do a thread - My dog is coughing what are the signs and symptoms of CT and what can be done about it All I am thinking is why are you jumping the gun and thinking its CT it could be so many other things. Take your dog to the vet and find out before assuming the worst. At least when you know that it is or isnt then you can ;ook at what you need to do to manage it

Yep...

jadabug · 09-07-2014, 09:01 AM

We thought bogie had CT for the vet visit a few weeks ago. Our vet didn't say it was 100% but that if his cough worsened we could do an x-Ray. I jumped to conclusions that he did have it because the cough was getting worse and at an alarming rate.
Instead of just assuming it was the CT I took Bogie in for a digital x-Ray. Thank goodness his trachea was open and working fine, he did have some fluid in the lower trachea ,throat area. His heart is also sitting very high in his chest, this causing a cough when he's walked on a harness.
I was beside myself with fear when he was getting worse by the day. Only 4days of meds and the cough when playing and getting excited is gone.
We will always have to be careful on the type harness he wears because of the heart being so close to his windpipe, but I will take this diagnosis any day.

jadabug · 09-07-2014, 09:07 AM

I want to add. Bogie has had the cough when walking on harness his entire life. I never mentioned it to the vet because it was the only time it happened. I never thought it was CT and was shocked to think it might be when my vet heard Bogie cough because he walked into the office that day on harness. Otherwise I wouldn't know today this the had the fluid and the situation with his heart

mindy10 · 09-07-2014, 10:39 AM

Chaachi what are the other reasons a dog would cough when drinking water or when pulling on a leash or when getting excited or when scratching his neck. Becasue that is what my puppy does. I would think that would be from a weak trachea. I am not saying it is fully collapsed but I do think he has a problem with his trachea and don;t think I am jumping to conclusions becasue two vets pressed his trachea and said yes CT. I would love it if i was jumping to conclusion.

chachi · 09-07-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mindy10

Chaachi what are the other reasons a dog would cough when drinking water or when pulling on a leash or when getting excited or when scratching his neck. Becasue that is what my puppy does. I would think that would be from a weak trachea. I am not saying it is fully collapsed but I do think he has a problem with his trachea and don;t think I am jumping to conclusions becasue two vets pressed his trachea and said yes CT. I would love it if i was jumping to conclusion.

You need to have him exrayed to know for sure I wouldnt rely on a vets opinion on something so serious. It could be reverse sneezing or anything else read Jadabugs post about what it ended up being and she was concerned her dog may have CT too

ladyjane · 09-07-2014, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mindy10

Exactly we don't have a crystal ball so we don't know if it will get worse if it is ct. Not all coughs are due to ct but I feel from research most are.

What research? I would like to see that because I have never heard that most coughs are due to CT.

mindy10 · 09-07-2014, 12:20 PM

Everywhere online you look for a dog that has a quick fast gag cough, when drinking or when playing hard or pulling on a leash they say is due to CT. Now I am not saying the CT is a severe case. Just that it is most likely due to a weak trachea. Even most vets say it. Especially if it is a puppy it is not usually due to heart failure or kennel cough. Kennel cough has a specific sound just like a reverse sneeze does. Some say allergies but I have never had a vet say a cough was due to allergies and I have seen many vets in my time.

chachi · 09-07-2014, 12:27 PM

My dogs gag they sound like they are gaging up a hair ball have been doing it for ten years now it isnt frequent but they do it

mindy10 · 09-07-2014, 12:45 PM

I am sorry I don't mean to upset anyone. I just got two vets opinions and both said probably CT. Second vet said not to do the expensive testing at this time becasue it is mild. I just thought it would be good to come on here and read other peoples experiences with there yorkies. I sometimes think owners know more than the vets. I wanted to get other peoples stories on dogs that have the quick fast cough (not a reverse sneeze) so I can feel better about my puppy knowing other peoples dogs do it and are still around years later. Just want to do whats best for the puppy if I can help him.

09-07-2014, 08:33 AM	#20
matese Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: E.Stroudsburg, Pa. Posts: 69,270	The only experience I have had with CT was back in early 1990's. At that time vets did not advise against using collars for leash walks. All My dogs had collars for leash walks. All my yorkies pulled like crazy on leash walks, I had 3 at that time, all 3 years apart. They pulled because who wanted to be the first one to get to their dog friends to get that first hello kiss from their buds. For years I tried to break their leash pulling, walking 3 dogs all pulling was not fun for me. One of my pups the middle one developed a cough, I thought nothing of it, but then it became worse, so off to the vet we went. It was diagnosed as CT from the constant pulling on the leash, remember, all my dogs wore collars. Even then the vet did not say not to use collars, I took it upon my self to use only harnesses on all 3 dogs. Also meds were not given for CT back then (I guess) The coughing lessened after she was put on the harness, She lived a healthy life for 6 or 7 years after diagnosed with CT. She died at age 13 y/o, in the house of a stroke. That has been my only experience with CT, so many years ago. __________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog

09-07-2014, 08:56 AM	#21
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,490	I had a dog with CT in the 90s and I absolutely was told not to leash walk him. I don't believe that collars necessarily cause CT...it is a weakening of the trachea and a collar will certainly aggravate but is not the total cause. The fact that three dogs you were walking all pulled and one had CT would make that obvious in my mind. I have posted before about him. His name was Maxwell and I almost lost him after cervical disc surgery because of his trachea. That surgery was in 2004 .. he was old then and ended up passing away in 2006 but not from CT. As for meds, they absolutely prescribed them for the symptoms of CT. One must remember that they are treating symptoms, not the condition as there is no med that will "fix it". __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

09-07-2014, 09:01 AM	#23
jadabug Jada + Bogie = ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mayberry AKA smalltown usa Posts: 24,078	We thought bogie had CT for the vet visit a few weeks ago. Our vet didn't say it was 100% but that if his cough worsened we could do an x-Ray. I jumped to conclusions that he did have it because the cough was getting worse and at an alarming rate. Instead of just assuming it was the CT I took Bogie in for a digital x-Ray. Thank goodness his trachea was open and working fine, he did have some fluid in the lower trachea ,throat area. His heart is also sitting very high in his chest, this causing a cough when he's walked on a harness. I was beside myself with fear when he was getting worse by the day. Only 4days of meds and the cough when playing and getting excited is gone. We will always have to be careful on the type harness he wears because of the heart being so close to his windpipe, but I will take this diagnosis any day. __________________ Michelle, Jada and Bogie

09-07-2014, 09:07 AM	#24
jadabug Jada + Bogie = ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mayberry AKA smalltown usa Posts: 24,078	I want to add. Bogie has had the cough when walking on harness his entire life. I never mentioned it to the vet because it was the only time it happened. I never thought it was CT and was shocked to think it might be when my vet heard Bogie cough because he walked into the office that day on harness. Otherwise I wouldn't know today this the had the fluid and the situation with his heart __________________ Michelle, Jada and Bogie

09-07-2014, 12:27 PM	#29
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	My dogs gag they sound like they are gaging up a hair ball have been doing it for ten years now it isnt frequent but they do it __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

09-07-2014, 06:54 AM	#16
mindy10 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 581 Blog Entries: 1	So I guess what I am saying if a dog does a quick fast cough as a puppy does not mean he has severe CT. I think it means he will have the chance of getting severe CT in the future when he gets older. Not all dogs with CT go into the severe case. Does that make sense

09-07-2014, 07:45 AM	#18
mindy10 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 581 Blog Entries: 1	Exactly we don't have a crystal ball so we don't know if it will get worse if it is ct. Not all coughs are due to ct but I feel from research most are.

09-07-2014, 10:39 AM	#25
mindy10 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 581 Blog Entries: 1	Chaachi what are the other reasons a dog would cough when drinking water or when pulling on a leash or when getting excited or when scratching his neck. Becasue that is what my puppy does. I would think that would be from a weak trachea. I am not saying it is fully collapsed but I do think he has a problem with his trachea and don;t think I am jumping to conclusions becasue two vets pressed his trachea and said yes CT. I would love it if i was jumping to conclusion.

09-07-2014, 12:20 PM	#28
mindy10 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 581 Blog Entries: 1	Everywhere online you look for a dog that has a quick fast gag cough, when drinking or when playing hard or pulling on a leash they say is due to CT. Now I am not saying the CT is a severe case. Just that it is most likely due to a weak trachea. Even most vets say it. Especially if it is a puppy it is not usually due to heart failure or kennel cough. Kennel cough has a specific sound just like a reverse sneeze does. Some say allergies but I have never had a vet say a cough was due to allergies and I have seen many vets in my time.

09-07-2014, 12:45 PM	#30
mindy10 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 581 Blog Entries: 1	I am sorry I don't mean to upset anyone. I just got two vets opinions and both said probably CT. Second vet said not to do the expensive testing at this time becasue it is mild. I just thought it would be good to come on here and read other peoples experiences with there yorkies. I sometimes think owners know more than the vets. I wanted to get other peoples stories on dogs that have the quick fast cough (not a reverse sneeze) so I can feel better about my puppy knowing other peoples dogs do it and are still around years later. Just want to do whats best for the puppy if I can help him.