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02-24-2014, 07:07 PM | #31 | |
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02-24-2014, 07:14 PM | #32 | |
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02-24-2014, 07:15 PM | #33 |
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| I don't know if the CCL can show up on x-rays as it's soft tissue so unless it had a bit of avulsed bone attached to it, it probably wouldn't. Maybe you could Google what tests are necessary to show it or whether a physical examination alone will show it.
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02-24-2014, 07:28 PM | #34 |
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| LadyJane's links above describe the diagnostic techniques. You're right, CCL damage does not show up on x-rays. CCL damage is determined during the palpation, which the vet did, but I'll double-check tomorrow to make sure the vet was feeling for the right things. |
02-24-2014, 08:42 PM | #35 | |
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02-25-2014, 08:33 AM | #36 | |
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No, the x-ray did not show the CCL tear. That's where the experience of the board certified surgeon came into play. He strongly suspected a CCL tear because of the way that he could manipulate the joint. The x-ray showed that the bones in the leg were not lined up the way that they should be. Instead of the tibia and fibula being directly under the femur, they were shifted over. When she had surgery 6 days later, the pictures from the arthroscope showed little strands of the CCL, like a frayed rope, floating free in the sinovial fluid. Since your pup's surgery is almost a month away, you need to be very careful with her. With an unstable knee, you need to avoid anything that could possibly cause damage to the meniscus or tear ligaments.
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02-25-2014, 09:20 AM | #37 | |
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02-25-2014, 09:39 AM | #38 | |
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02-25-2014, 10:09 AM | #39 |
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| I was on your shoes 12 years ago when my young dog needed this surgery. I opted to go with a boarded surgeon who does so many of these surgeries. She's never had a problem with that leg in all these years and I truly believe that it's because she had a great surgeon. I know it costs more this way, but if you can, go for a diplomat of the ACVS who has lots of experiences with toy dog repairs. Best wishes!
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02-25-2014, 10:12 AM | #40 |
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| Indeed. By the way, the vet who examined Bella yesterday is also a mentor for U of I vet students (I'm quite the internet stalker ), so I'm sure she did a thorough examination. But I'm going to ask the surgeon about CCL on Friday anyway, because even if Bella hasn't torn anything yet, it could still happen before the surgery. In the meantime, I'm trying to keep Bella as calm as possible until then. |
02-25-2014, 10:34 AM | #41 |
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| Oh no.........just seeing this about Bella. I also took Macy to U of I but to the teaching hospital. They sedated Macy to get a good X ray because she would tense up when they tried to move her knee cap around. She was diagnosed with Stage 2 in one leg and Stage 1 in the other. Strangely, she holds up the knee with Stage 1 when we go for a walk and the Stage 2 knee doesn't bother her at all when walking. I asked for a Board Certified ortho doctor and was directed to Dr. Tisha Harper who is a clinical assistant professor at U of I. She didn't recommend surgery at this time but I have to take Macy back in August to be looked at again. I think the lines get blurred on the vets that have their own practice and still teach at U of I and the ones that are strictly U of I vets. I think they told me surgery was around $3000 if she has to have surgery at U of I. Will be thinking of little Bella when she has her surgery. The doctor also told me the recovery time is the worst part because they have to been in crate confinement for 4 - 6 weeks.
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02-25-2014, 11:20 AM | #42 | |
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"Because in most cases we will use reversible sedation to get diagnostic quality X-rays, we ask that your pet be fasted for the appointment." Orthopedic Surgery FAQs | University of Illinois Veterinary Teaching Hospital I wish you the best with little Macy! I'll keep everyone posted on Bella's surgery. | |
02-25-2014, 11:30 AM | #43 | |
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02-25-2014, 12:31 PM | #44 | |
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I'll be waiting for your updates on Bella and if Macy has to have this surgery I might be picking your brain when her time comes.
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02-25-2014, 02:38 PM | #45 | |
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