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11-14-2013, 05:14 PM | #1 |
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| Tootsie unable to keep water down... I have been meaning to post about my sweet foster, Tootsie, to see if anyone had any ideas other than what I was thinking....just never got around to it. I took her to the specialist today for testing and am now sharing this because it is extremely rare and we never know who might come along with a similar condition. Tootsie has been regurgitating water (not vomiting...it just comes up with no gagging or retching). She is able to keep food down. I had noticed that she was drinking a lot of water when she did drink but only a small amount was coming up. My vet had done x-rays and sent them to the specialist who then suggested Tootsie have a barium swallow with a fluoroscopy. She went there today and had that done. They also found her cortisol level to be low so they did the ACTH test to rule out Addison's. I don't have the results of that yet. Easier for me to copy/paste this information...kind of fascinating but I hate that it is in my house. Seems every pup that lands here gets some weird thing. I keep joking about God teaching me but this is really getting crazy...I told Him the joke needs to stop. From her discharge summary: Results: 3-Phase Esophagram: Liquid is unable to easily move past the upper esophageal sphincter into the esophagus without 10-15 swallowing motions. Food is able to move normally, whether canned food or kibble. DISCUSSION: Tootsie's history suggested issues with swallowing and regurgitating liquids like water, and this has been confirmed by fluoroscopy. Her upper esophageal sphincter will not open properly to allow water to enter. However, food readily enters the upper esophageal sphincter. Since swallowing is a reflex of the nervous system, this implies that water is not stimulating the nerves in the upper esophageal sphincter to activate and trigger the swallowing reflex. This decreased sensation of the nerves is what leads to conditions like mega-esophagus, otherwise known as esophageal ectasia. So, we can tentatively say Tootsie has ectasia of her upper esophageal sphincter. Again, this is due to the nerves not reacting to a liquid stimulas to swallow. This condition is very rare and it may progress or may stay stable overtime. If it does progress, treatment options would be injecting the upper esophageal sphincter with botox or other substances to bulk it up and hopefully make nervous stimulation easier. However, Tootsie's signs are no where near severe enough to warrant that. For now, after she drinks, just hold her up for 15-30 seconds to help gravity push liquid against the sphincter to better trigger swallowing. Monitor Tootsie closely for worsening of her regurgitation or difficulty breathing. Difficulty breathing may indicate she has aspirated some fluid or food, leading to aspiration pneumonia. Here is darling Tootsie! IMG_5657.jpg
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11-14-2013, 05:24 PM | #2 |
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| Oh, Linda, how I hate to read that. I know she's in good hands with you and I'm hoping it doesn't get any worse.
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11-14-2013, 05:26 PM | #3 |
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| Thanks Karen...I feel so bad for her. I hope that this does not get in the way of her finding a home. She is the sweetest pup ever!
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11-14-2013, 05:34 PM | #4 |
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| I know she is a sweetie. I could see that when you got her.
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11-14-2013, 05:41 PM | #5 |
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| What a sweet face. I hope all works out for this little one.
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11-15-2013, 01:50 AM | #6 |
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| Tootsie is a darling, I hope her condition doesn't get worse. She is in good hands with you.
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11-15-2013, 05:57 AM | #7 |
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| Oh, I am so sorry about Tootsie. I have never heard of this condition and appreciate you teaching us Linda. Hopefully, this will continue to stay mild and this will not stop someone from giving her a wonderful forever home. Love the picture and her name. She is a cutie. |
11-15-2013, 07:28 AM | #8 |
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| Linda, they have stuff called "Thickn-It" or something like that....we use it in the hospital for stroke patients that have issues with swallowing liquids like water....when you thicken the thin liquid up so, it is much easier for them to swallow.....since she can swallow kibble or wet dogfood without any problems, maybe this stuff added to her water, would help her with this issue? Poor baby girl..... |
11-15-2013, 07:36 AM | #9 |
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| I have been thinking about this little girl. I would definitely ask the vet about the "thickening" water. Sounds like a possible answer.
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11-15-2013, 07:54 AM | #10 | |
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The thing is, I have multiple pups and not sure all would be happy with this...or that it would be ok for them. I don't know. I am also thinking maybe I should give her canned food mixed with her kibble...or all canned. That would give her more water and maybe she would not feel thirsty as much and have to stand at the water bowl for so long to get it down. She is the sweetest little thing...it bothers me so much that she has this...I just hope it does not get worse.
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11-15-2013, 07:56 AM | #11 | |
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11-15-2013, 07:57 AM | #12 | |
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Linda I was also thinking about wetting her food more. Adding some water to her every kibble meal. How old is she now? A couple of other thoughts, if elevation is helpful to the swallowing reflex, how about elevating her water bowl. I have two ideas, purchase a water bottle for doggies and install at appropriate height for her. Just above head level so she needs to stretch up to lick the water out. Razzle has stopped drinking from his water bowl (for some reason) and now has taken to stretching up on his hind legs to drink out of the big boys dish. Magic has taken over his small water bowl... Sigh.... Another idea, if you know of a good dog acupuncturist, I would explore with them the feasibility of using acupuncture to stimulate the nerves for swallowing. I have one here in Toronto I have used effectively for a quite different condition. Lastly again I know this maybe out there for you, explore treatment options with a cranial/sacral therapist. These treatment can be very very effective and are of a very gentle technique. I hope this sweetie stabilizes and goes onto living a great life.
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11-15-2013, 07:58 AM | #13 | |
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11-15-2013, 08:01 AM | #14 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | ROFL You are certainly the "goto" lady! Did you know the old time hobos had this secret sign language that directed other hobos to good spots, to for example catch a nap, or find a good meal hand-out? Maybe doggies have their own secret signal language too
__________________ Razzle and Dara. Our clan. RIP Karma Dec 24th 2004-July 14 2013 RIP Zoey Jun9 th 2008-May 12 2012. RIP Magic,Mar 26 2006July 1st 2018 |
11-15-2013, 12:45 PM | #15 | |
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Great Ideas!! I love that reaching up to lick the water from the water bottle....that seems like a real effective solution? If you want an accupuncturist, my vet, Julie Wickel, is great with this....she teaches it all over the country, to other vets, at vet schools, seminars, etc. If you would be interested in this, pm me! | |
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