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hogeman 10-02-2013 01:05 PM

giardia is not a mystery to vets. Treating it should be simple. Get her to another vet, like so many before me have mentioned. My daughter is a young vet. Trust me they are not all created equal. wish she could help u out.

Buster Brown 10-02-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by piinkprincess (Post 4325532)
My baby Bunny is not well. She has a fever. She wont eat (she has not in a week I gave her nutri cal) She got so skinny. She keeps shivering. I took her to the vet (He was very cold and seems more concerned about making money he kept pointing out the obvious and even the vets assistant was more caring . Any way it turned out she had giardia and caused a fever he metronidazole liquid and clavamox drops. Thursday It will be a week! Her fever was 104.2 at the vets and now it is 103.5. SHe is not well. Clavamox is anti biotic I just found out. NO wonder It is not bringing her fever down. When I questioned him about this he said oh bring her in bring her in again but for what ? Just to make more money!

PLease help me she is my best friend ! What should I do? How can I bring down her fever??

Please please bring her to another Vet. My Buster was very sick when I first got him. He had Gairdia, Coccidia, and a bad case of kennel cough. I was taking him to a Vet and they seemed callous and their treatment was not really helping. I quickly found another Vet and took Buster to them. Thank God because my sweet Buster would have died. I looked up this first Vet on Yelp afterwards and there were many complaints. The bottom line as a Mother and guardian is that is is up to us to do what is best for our helpless Yorkie babies. Please go to an emergency Veterinarian hospital or another Vet ASAP for your babies sake. If you do nothing I am very scared for your baby and for you. I know you are looking for another Vet and have possibly found one try just bringing her in maybe they will realize how serious her condition is and look at her. Sending prayers and best wishes for you and your baby.

lovespandp 10-02-2013 01:21 PM

Poor baby, hopefully you can get her in a different Vet. That baby needs help.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4326027)
Fever can cause a pup to lose appetite. Not sure if giardia causes fever? Fever can be an indication of infection...she is not shivering bc she's cold, she's shivering bc she has a fever. Hope all goes well @ the vet. Make sure her fever does not go over 104-105, that is an emergency situation. She can die if her fever reaches 106. How are you taking her temp, from the rectum?
High Fever in Dogs: Symptoms and Treatments

I would borrow money from a family member or friend or even a neighbor (promise I'll clean their place once a week for a month for example), whatever I can to take her to the vet asap. She might need VitB shot, must have sub-q fluids & possible IV.


I looked on line and it said bacteria can cause fever giardia is bacteria.
she has an appointment for tom im taking her temp rectally. this morning it was 103.4 Im going to take it again tonight.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MomtoJasper (Post 4325674)
How is your pup? Were you able to get her to a vet?

I wish she has an app in the am thanks for your concern

yorkietalkjilly 10-02-2013 01:37 PM

The infection will eventually just get worse in a weakened animal and fever that long is hard on the dog's organs. If you can't afford care for your and it's ill/suffering, you will have to surrender the dog to a rescue so the little thing can get help. That's the loving, selfless thing to do.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4326079)
Your vet is not nuts for giving an antibiotic! It sounds to me like he is doing the best he can with limited resources. You have been very clear that you have a problem spending money to vet your puppy....I imagine you told him the same.
My guess is he is handicapped because of that....vets are not mind readers and need physical exams and vital signs in addition to tests being run.

There is a reason for the fever....some type of infection and he is giving meds to try to cover anything that it could be that is causing the fever. Giving something for the fever is not the goal....a fever is there because the body is trying to fight whatever your puppy has. So....if the cause can be fixed, the fever will go down.

I hope you can find a way to get your puppy the care that is needed. It is very scary that she has been ill for so long.


excuse me are you serious right now? Ill have you know that I STILL HAVENT PAID MY RENT jst to take her to the vet. YOu dont know my financial situation so dont say that i have problem SPENDING on her . I rather starve if it means taking care of her. how ignorant can you be and my vet said she has giardia thats y he prescribed the other thing. thats not right how you are judging me and if you look online you will see my vet is rude and sarcastic

Dr.Katz needs a new career
Provided by Citysearch

"This vet Is rude and unkind he has no passion left or love of animals. This place is taking advantage of the Bronx community. High Prices for horrible care. Go to the vets on Riverdale Ave. in Riverdale. The Prices are not much higher. They love animals. Bronxites you deserve the best."

heres the link: Bronx Veterinary Center Bronx, NY, 10458 - YP.com

please please please do not talk if you dont know!

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 4325971)
That's good that she is eating and getting around better but I agree, get her into the vet today !! I don't know any vet, including mine that will not make an acceptation for a sick pup.

i wish i culd i asked my doctor if I can please leave and he started yelling that i took two days off last week (because of bunny) he is not coming in tomorrow only physical therapy tomorrow so I will go to vet

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hogeman (Post 4326089)
giardia is not a mystery to vets. Treating it should be simple. Get her to another vet, like so many before me have mentioned. My daughter is a young vet. Trust me they are not all created equal. wish she could help u out.

I have found another thank you for your concern

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 4326096)
Please please bring her to another Vet. My Buster was very sick when I first got him. He had Gairdia, Coccidia, and a bad case of kennel cough. I was taking him to a Vet and they seemed callous and their treatment was not really helping. I quickly found another Vet and took Buster to them. Thank God because my sweet Buster would have died. I looked up this first Vet on Yelp afterwards and there were many complaints. The bottom line as a Mother and guardian is that is is up to us to do what is best for our helpless Yorkie babies. Please go to an emergency Veterinarian hospital or another Vet ASAP for your babies sake. If you do nothing I am very scared for your baby and for you. I know you are looking for another Vet and have possibly found one try just bringing her in maybe they will realize how serious her condition is and look at her. Sending prayers and best wishes for you and your baby.

yea I did find one im going tomorrow., I tried to leave today but boss yelled at me because last week I didnt come in twice bc I had to take Bunny to the vet. he is not going to be in tomorrow so I am going tomorrow. I am so happy ur Buster is better. Wishing him great health forever and thank you for your prayers

Lisa and Pic 10-02-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by piinkprincess (Post 4326116)
excuse me are you serious right now? Ill have you know that I STILL HAVENT PAID MY RENT jst to take her to the vet. YOu dont know my financial situation so dont say that i have problem SPENDING on her . I rather starve if it means taking care of her. how ignorant can you be and my vet said she has giardia thats y he prescribed the other thing. thats not right how you are judging me and if you look online you will see my vet is rude and sarcastic

Dr.Katz needs a new career
Provided by Citysearch

"This vet Is rude and unkind he has no passion left or love of animals. This place is taking advantage of the Bronx community. High Prices for horrible care. Go to the vets on Riverdale Ave. in Riverdale. The Prices are not much higher. They love animals. Bronxites you deserve the best."

heres the link: Bronx Veterinary Center Bronx, NY, 10458 - YP.com

please please please do not talk if you dont know!

I am so very sorry about your little one and hope Bunny gets the care she needs quickly.

Calling Ladyjane ignorant is really not doing Bunny or you any good at all. I know you are upset, but name calling is not helping to get her well.

I am so thankful for Ladyjane and all the help she has given me with my pups through the years. She can really help you if you will give her a chance. Also, I read nothing about her judging, she is thinking of your dog and it is not about you at all.

Anyway, prayers for Bunny...

mimimomo 10-02-2013 02:24 PM

FYI, Ladyjane is right & she's very knowledgeable, she's been through many experiences w/her foster pups & her own. Your vet prescribed antibiotics to help clear up any bacterial infection she might have. Since you had limited funds available, I doubt any full panel blood work was done? Or if it was done, he would have seen the infection & prescribed the antibiotics. He asked you to bring her in so he can examine her again, but you refused...how is that going to treat her? I hope all goes well w/her new vet tomorrow & she gets the proper care.
I read up on giardiasis & fever is not one of the symptoms, although every dog is different. Leptosirosis does cause fever. Was the giardia confirmed w/a stool sample?

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 4326130)
I am so very sorry about your little one and hope Bunny gets the care she needs quickly.

Calling Ladyjane ignorant is really not doing Bunny or you any good at all. I know you are upset, but name calling is not helping to get her well.

I am so thankful for Ladyjane and all the help she has given me with my pups through the years. She can really help you if you will give her a chance. Also, I read nothing about her judging, she is thinking of your dog and it is not about you at all.

Anyway, prayers for Bunny...

"Your vet is not nuts for giving an antibiotic! It sounds to me like he is doing the best he can with limited resources. You have been very clear that you have a problem spending money to vet your puppy....I imagine you told him the same. "

did you read the bold part? Name calling is not going to help but insulting me wont either. how shes going to say i have a PROBLEM spending money on her "/ i would give up my life for her and obviously I still have not paid my rent because she comes first. I am glad she is nice to you and has good advice but as you can see how rude she is being to me

yorkietalkjilly 10-02-2013 02:39 PM

Boy, I just didn't see how Ladyjane was rude. She does such wonderful work for dogs, helps all of us here constantly when our dogs are ill, but she will tell you like it is. She's very straightforward where dog well-being is concerned. That's not being rude.

If you can't afford the best vet care your dog needs and it has to drag along ill with fever because you can't afford needed tests, second opinions and so forth, you should not have a dog. It's that simple. No dog should have to suffer for lack of excellent care. What will you do if the dog gets very, very ill, has to be hospitalized with IV's, constant 24 hour life support or God forbid should get hit by a car and need an ORIF of a fracture? When you get a dog, you've got to anticipate it will get ill or hurt and need the best care and there is just no denying vet care is extremely expensive. This dog will likely need dentals, spaying if that hasn't been done. I'd go ahead and surrender the dog now so this medical condition can be adequately tested for, properly diagnosed, treated and get the sweet little dog well starting tonight. The idea of a little dog dragging around with a fever, feeling bad, is just horrible! The dog's well being is the only thing that matters now.

Rhetts_mama 10-02-2013 02:40 PM

I'm confused about this thread. Clavomax is the first line treatment for Giardia. An antibiotic DOES reduce fevers if that fever is caused by a susceptible bacteria. A couple of days have been wasted and this pup is still sick because a vet was, according to the OP, sarcastic and she did want to go back to him.

I'm glad the puppy is getting seen by someone else tomorrow, but sad that care was delayed because of a personality issue. Sometimes, is better to put our own egos aside and deal with the issues at hand before they become even more emergent.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4326142)
Boy, I just didn't see how Ladyjane was rude. She does such wonderful work for dogs, helps all of us here constantly when our dogs are ill, but she will tell you like it is. She's very straightforward where dog well-being is concerned. That's not being rude.

If you can't afford the best vet care your dog needs and it has to drag along ill with fever because you can't afford needed tests, second opinions and so forth, you should not have a dog. It's that simple. No dog should have to suffer for lack of excellent care. What will you do if the dog gets very, very ill, has to be hospitalized with IV's, constant 24 hour life support or God forbid should get hit by a car and need an ORIF of a fracture? When you get a dog, you've got to anticipate it will get ill or hurt and need the best care and there is just no denying vet care is extremely expensive. This dog will likely need dentals, spaying if that hasn't been done. I'd go ahead and surrender the dog now so this medical condition can be adequately tested for, properly diagnosed, treated and get the sweet little dog well starting tonight. The idea of a little dog dragging around with a fever, feeling bad, is just horrible! The dog's well being is the only thing that matters now.


ok see say that what you are saying if I cannot afford the dog to give it up but who is she to tell me that I have problems spending money on vetting my dog "/ shes saying like im CHOOOSINNG NOT to spend money on HER. its ok though I dont even know why I got upset she does not know me or my situation I guess her choice of words got under my skin everyone else has been very nice including you.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4326134)
FYI, Ladyjane is right & she's very knowledgeable, she's been through many experiences w/her foster pups & her own. Your vet prescribed antibiotics to help clear up any bacterial infection she might have. Since you had limited funds available, I doubt any full panel blood work was done? Or if it was done, he would have seen the infection & prescribed the antibiotics. He asked you to bring her in so he can examine her again, but you refused...how is that going to treat her? I hope all goes well w/her new vet tomorrow & she gets the proper care.
I read up on giardiasis & fever is not one of the symptoms, although every dog is different. Leptosirosis does cause fever. Was the giardia confirmed w/a stool sample?

ISNT giardia a bacteria? Bacteria causes fevers on dogs my vet said. Also he did not know how much money I had we never spoke about I just asked what can be done he said give her the first medication for giardia and i will prescribe you a second ( clavamox) for fever. And yes I refused because he was cold sarcastic and rude the giardia was confirmed through a stool sample I will do another tomorrow to see if it has went away as today is her last day on the giardia meds.

read this or at leasst skim:
Bacterial Infection (Leptospirosis) in Dogs | petMD

." Soon after initial infection, fever and bacterial infection of the blood develop"

I could not find the original one I was reading but I found that

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 4326143)
I'm confused about this thread. Clavomax is the first line treatment for Giardia. An antibiotic DOES reduce fevers if that fever is caused by a susceptible bacteria. A couple of days have been wasted and this pup is still sick because a vet was, according to the OP, sarcastic and she did want to go back to him.

I'm glad the puppy is getting seen by someone else tomorrow, but sad that care was delayed because of a personality issue. Sometimes, is better to put our own egos aside and deal with the issues at hand before they become even more emergent.


It was not a personality Issue hun the vet told me to go home and give her the meds and fever and giardia should go down he gave me two meds. WHen I saw fever was not going down I looked up clavamox and called the vet back. In the office he said clavamox IS for fever and WILL bring it down on the phone he said he prescribed it because it MAY help with the fever "/ (this was yesterday) I tried to leave work today to go to the new vet and got yelled at by boss going tomorrow since boss will not be in. Thank you for your concern though

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisa and Pic (Post 4326130)
I am so very sorry about your little one and hope Bunny gets the care she needs quickly.

Calling Ladyjane ignorant is really not doing Bunny or you any good at all. I know you are upset, but name calling is not helping to get her well.

I am so thankful for Ladyjane and all the help she has given me with my pups through the years. She can really help you if you will give her a chance. Also, I read nothing about her judging, she is thinking of your dog and it is not about you at all.

Anyway, prayers for Bunny...

thanks for the prayers very kind of you

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 4326143)
I'm confused about this thread. Clavomax is the first line treatment for Giardia. An antibiotic DOES reduce fevers if that fever is caused by a susceptible bacteria. A couple of days have been wasted and this pup is still sick because a vet was, according to the OP, sarcastic and she did want to go back to him.

I'm glad the puppy is getting seen by someone else tomorrow, but sad that care was delayed because of a personality issue. Sometimes, is better to put our own egos aside and deal with the issues at hand before they become even more emergent.

metronidazole liquid was what he prescribed for giardia not clavamox he told me the clavamox was for fever

yorkietalkjilly 10-02-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by piinkprincess (Post 4326148)
ok see say that what you are saying if I cannot afford the dog to give it up but who is she to tell me that I have problems spending money on vetting my dog "/ shes saying like im CHOOOSINNG NOT to spend money on HER. its ok though I dont even know why I got upset she does not know me or my situation I guess her choice of words got under my skin everyone else has been very nice including you.

Right. If you don't get a sick dog needed tests, treatment for an ongoing illness and fever, by default you are choosing not to spend money by not allowing the test or whatever the first vet wanted to do that was not done or by not seeking out an immediate second opinion or ER vet when the dog gets no better within a couple of days. But we understand you are choosing not to spend it because times are so tough financially. Times are hard for so many right now and it's just awful. Sick little dogs are so expensive that if you can't afford the high cost of vet care during this hard time in life, it's really a kindness to go ahead and surrender the dog so it can get help and then it can be placed with someone who can afford expensive vetting. Surrendering a dog is not shameful if times are really bad, money very short. It's the kind thing to do to help the dog now when it is continuing to stay ill and feverish and then later, when life is less hard financially, perhaps then another dog will be easier to afford. Fever is something to get right on if it doesn't clear up in a couple of days on meds or spikes and the dogs just has to get all the testing and treatment it needs to try to get it well ASAP.

Buster Brown 10-02-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by piinkprincess (Post 4326122)
yea I did find one im going tomorrow., I tried to leave today but boss yelled at me because last week I didnt come in twice bc I had to take Bunny to the vet. he is not going to be in tomorrow so I am going tomorrow. I am so happy ur Buster is better. Wishing him great health forever and thank you for your prayers

Thanks for your kind wishes. Sending prayers and best wishes for Bunny and for you. Sorry your boss does not understand how much our pets mean to us. I understand you are overwhelmed right now but please understand that some posters may seem harsh but their advice is based on experience with similar life threatening issues with Yorkies so their concern for the dog is their bottom line. They do not mince words when they feel the situation is urgent, it is based on concern for Bunny and not out of meanness to you. I hope the new Vet can find out what is wrong with your sweet Bunny and find the proper treatment.

:hands::hands::hands::hands:
:hands:BUNNY:hands:
:hands::hands::hands::hands:

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4326157)
Right. If you don't get a sick dog needed tests, treatment for an ongoing illness and fever, by default you are choosing not to spend money by not allowing the test or whatever the first vet wanted to do that was not done or by not seeking out an immediate second opinion or ER vet when the dog gets no better within a couple of days. But we understand you are choosing not to spend it because times are so tough financially. Times are hard for so many right now and it's just awful. Sick little dogs are so expensive that if you can't afford the high cost of vet care during this hard time in life, it's really a kindness to go ahead and surrender the dog so it can get help and then it can be placed with someone who can afford expensive vetting. Surrendering a dog is not shameful if times are really bad, money very short. It's the kind thing to do to help the dog now when it is continuing to stay ill and feverish and then later, when life is less hard financially, perhaps then another dog will be easier to afford. Fever is something to get right on if it doesn't clear up in a couple of days on meds or spikes and the dogs just has to get all the testing and treatment it needs to try to get it well ASAP.


no CHOOSING and not having it are two totally different things didnt you already tell me to give up my dog. do you really have to keep saying it without even giving me a chance to go to the vet tomorrow like damn you act like im not trying I already tried to apply for care card and everything smh.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster Brown (Post 4326159)
Thanks for your kind wishes. Sending prayers and best wishes for Bunny and for you. Sorry your boss does not understand how much our pets mean to us. I understand you are overwhelmed right now but please understand that some posters may seem harsh but their advice is based on experience with similar life threatening issues with Yorkies so their concern for the dog is their bottom line. They do not mince words when they feel the situation is urgent, it is based on concern for Bunny and not out of meanness to you. I hope the new Vet can find out what is wrong with your sweet Bunny and find the proper treatment.

:hands::hands::hands::hands:
:hands:BUNNY:hands:
:hands::hands::hands::hands:

Thank you so much and you are right. I guess Im just emotional right now sorry to all if ive offended anyone

broodizt 10-02-2013 03:23 PM

Go to the first sticky in this thread "Help with Vet Bills" for organizations that help with Vet bills and for GOD'S SAKE get her to the ER NOW!!!!!!!!!!

I just lost my MUFFIN a few days ago. I would sell my SOUL to have her back.
Do not wait. I don't know how much longer she can hang on before it's too late. I'm begging you, take her to an ER NOW!!!!!!

yorkietalkjilly 10-02-2013 03:26 PM

If the dog isn't getting the care it needs when the little thing is sick with ongoing fever now and needs it now and not tomorrow, that's choosing not to get it care - whatever the reason - since it could get care ASAP if it were surrendered and a rescue help it out. So in effect by not doing whatever it takes to get the dog help today, it's your choice.

And then, what happens if tomorrow's vet visit requires a panel of blood tests and more shots, even an x-ray and then two or three more meds with more blood tests needed in a few days to monitor if the medication is affecting the liver or something. And if there is no money, what will happen.

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by broodizt (Post 4326166)
Go to the first sticky in this thread "Help with Vet Bills" for organizations that help with Vet bills and for GOD'S SAKE get her to the ER NOW!!!!!!!!!!

I just lost my MUFFIN a few days ago. I would sell my SOUL to have her back.
Do not wait. I don't know how much longer she can hang on before it's too late. I'm begging you, take her to an ER NOW!!!!!!

thanks I will look at that right now I am so sorry for ur loss ;(

bchgirl 10-02-2013 03:30 PM

Wait long enough and the decision will be made for you :(

piinkprincess 10-02-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4326172)
If the dog isn't getting the care it needs when the little thing is sick with ongoing fever now and needs it now and not tomorrow, that's choosing not to get it care - whatever the reason - since it could get care ASAP if it were surrendered and a rescue help it out. So in effect by not doing whatever it takes to get the dog help today, it's your choice.

And then, what happens if tomorrow's vet visit requires a panel of blood tests and more shots, even an x-ray and then two or three more meds with more blood tests needed in a few days to monitor if the medication is affecting the liver or something. And if there is no money, what will happen.


so it went from choosing to not spend money to choosing not to care wow nice "/. Well God willing it wont required all of that and if it does God forbid that is a different story and we will take it from there and real nice at the THIRD time being told to surrender my dog without even knowing what Is going on Just going to ignore your negative energy thank you anyway .

mimimomo 10-02-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by piinkprincess (Post 4326152)
ISNT giardia a bacteria? Bacteria causes fevers on dogs my vet said. Also he did not know how much money I had we never spoke about I just asked what can be done he said give her the first medication for giardia and i will prescribe you a second ( clavamox) for fever. And yes I refused because he was cold sarcastic and rude the giardia was confirmed through a stool sample I will do another tomorrow to see if it has went away as today is her last day on the giardia meds.

read this or at leasst skim:
Bacterial Infection (Leptospirosis) in Dogs | petMD

." Soon after initial infection, fever and bacterial infection of the blood develop"

I could not find the original one I was reading but I found that

Fever is caused by an infection, whether it be bacterial or viral. That's why the antibiotic was prescribed. Giardia is a protozoan parasite which causes dogs to have diarrhea, not high running fever. Usu Met/Flagly is prescribed. I'm just wondering if it's a secondary infection (not from giardia). Since the antibiotics are not helping w/her fever....that is why the vet said to bring her back in (not bc he wanted to make more $) bc the antibiotics are either 1. not working for her or 2. there's something else going on.

If you already tested for giardia & it was confirmed, no need to test again (unless the new vet wants to, just trying to give you suggestions so you can use the money wisely to help Bunny & you can use it to have her blood tested. It will tell how all her organs are working properly or not). Just have the 1st vet office fax over the info to the new vet. Giardia is very hard to get rid of & can recur. Simply putting the shoes away will not kill it, it must be cleaned w/bleach solution & everywhere you stepped on & that she has stepped on, must be cleaned.
CDC - Giardia - Giardia and Pets


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