***Tibbe Sick At The Vet. Need Your Prayers.***

[Ellie May]

There are lots and lots of food choices still vailable for him. A couple of us do have pups who can't eat meat. They dan't tolerate it in dog food either though.

What ws wring withtye old ID he was doing ok on?

[dottiesyrky]

Oh poor Tibbe and you! What a terrible few days you both have been through. No sleep or peace for either of you. You must be so stressed and exhausted, and so need some rest and sleep. Hoping some sedatives will give you and little Tibbe welcome sleep tonight. I feel your pain and frustration at not being to help your baby. Praying the BAT turns out normal and that this horrible scratching and hyperactivity ends soon for Tibbe. Wishing you peace and love. Get well soon Tibbe.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Crystal, he's heaved for the third time now and spit up a little more junk. That Benadryl has obviously turned his tummy wrong side out. Can I give him his regular dose of Cerenia by mouth for the nausea? Would it be safe with the Benadryl.

they changed him from the regular old Hill's I/D GI since he got sick on that and has periodically since he's been on it since June of last year, though he did have that recent stretch of good weeks in a row before this bout. If possilbe for now, we're going to have to go back on that. He can't live like he's had to live this last 24 hours miserable with itching, He's just wild with it, so restless and whining and moving from place to place and all the time trying to get himself scratched. His ears are back and his tail is clamped down.

[Ellie May]

I'm moving tomorrow and my Plumb's drug handbook is packed. So I texted my vet and she says yes they can be used together. Obviously I have to tell you to defer to your vet though. (I'd give it ).

Purina HA if you can't get this straightened out,,

[yorkietalkjilly]

God bless you, Crystal. He's heaved a 4th time just now and I'm so scared it's going to wake him up for good and start in that awful wallowiing and itching again. I'm going to give the Cerenia if he wretches one more time and watch him like ahawk after that. Thanks a million. Purina HA - GTK!!!!

[yorkietalkjilly]

This last wet cloth I changed from under his belly and pelvis was very warm. Took his rectal temp - it's 102.2. He's never much over 101 ever. Could his itching and stress and nausea be causing this? And this temp be helping to cause his nausea?

[Patti]

Has your vet ruled out the Heart Guard as a possible cause. Some of the symptoms are listed as side effects of Heart Guard? I feel so bad for little Tibbe's.

[yorkietalkjilly]

After taking his temp, Tibbe was in the living room, kitchen, getting in his carrier and back out, back into the kitchen, LR, den, carrier, rubbing his face and body all along on the walls. At about 9:55 pm he came to lie beside me on the pillow, would lie there a minute and rub his face on the couch arm, back down for a minute and up. At 10:00 pm he spit up again and at 10:06pm gave him 1/4 of the Cerenia 24 mg. and he licked some sugarwater off my fingers. At 10:24 pm, he threw up whitish stuff, quite a bit of water, which he'd drunk after having his Cerenia. I found a piece of the Cerenia (the 1/4 had split into two irregular pieces breaking it up) on the counter top where I'd given it to Tibbe so I gave that to him right after 10:24 pm. At 10:33 pm, Tibbe lay down on the other end of the couch on his blanket and he's been down now 8 minutes without rubbing his face or body or scratching. I pray he didn't lose most of his main dose with the emises and he'll rest. Tonight is so far a duplicate of last night. I think he's a llittle cooler(ears, belly/pelvic area) now than he was when I took his temp but don't want to take it again until he's quieter unless he gets really hot feeling. I just hope this quiet spell will last. Uh oh, I raised up to check on him and he raised his head! All of that medication and he's still not knocked out!

Now, he's down in the floor.

This is the same dog that can sleep the clock around and he hasn't really slept now for the second night and surely didn't today according to the vet's tech and the vet.

[kjc]

I wouldn't give him any food or water for at least 2-4 hours. Once they start vomiting, they may try to eat or drink out of frustration and will just continue to vomit. After some time has passed, allow him a very small amount of water and see if he keeps it down.

[lisaly]

Poor Tibbe and also you. I feel so bad. If you need to talk or just need someone to listen, please feel free to call, no matter how late it is. It sounds like a food allergy to me. I had one very allergic Yorkie, and I know how difficult it was. I used a topical hydrocortisone spray to help her itching, and she was also prescribed prescription medication. I pray that things get better for both of you.

[kjc]

Is he eating dry or canned I/D Low fat or both?

[yorkietalkjilly]

KJC, he's on the Hill's I/D Low Fat dry since Friday and that's what appears to be itching him so unless it is a flare-up of his liver. Before Friday, he was on Hill's I/D GI dry and once he started on that last June, the itching he was having from the Royal Canin GI just stopped and never came back until we changed his food to help his tummy digest easier.

He's quiet again. After he got down on the den floor that last time but he got right back up on the couch again and went to sleep on my feet and leg. I haven't moved since. I sat up and looked at him and he's breathing not too fast or slowly and sleeping!!! He's been there now about 30 plus minutes!!! Thank God if this will just last - maybe we can stay out of the hospital.

Trouble is, I've got a tummy bug too and having to visit the restroom frequently last night and today and tonight it was bad about 7:00 but now is better. I hope I don't have to "go" anytime soon and wake him. I'm so praying he'll rest tonight. He needs it so bad.

[kjc]

I just compared the Hill's Prescription I/D and I/D Low fat dry and canned varieties. The I/D regular canned is the only one out of the 4 that does not contain soybean oil, which is a known allergen in dogs. Both dried foods have a majority of corn/grain ingredients, and pork fat. If he is sensitive to grains, the canned variety may be a better choice... many Yorkies are sensitive and cannot eat pork (too rich I think).
HTH, K

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[LuvTaycieGirl]

I am so sorry I have missed this! Thinking of you and Tibbe! Purina HA has worked wonders for us from time to time when I am not home cooking. I will keep you in my prayers.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by kjc

I just compared the Hill's Prescription I/D and I/D Low fat dry and canned varieties. The I/D regular canned is the only one out of the 4 that does not contain soybean oil, which is a known allergen in dogs. Both dried foods have a majority of corn/grain ingredients, and pork fat. If he is sensitive to grains, the canned variety may be a better choice... many Yorkies are sensitive and cannot eat pork (too rich I think).
HTH, K

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I'm getting him some of that and that Purina HA that Crystal recommended and see how he does on each.