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11-06-2012, 12:06 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: aliquippa pa usa
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| Intra Cranial Disease/Ecephalitis My Dakota could not walk last Monday. I ran him to the vet only to find that he is unsure of his problem. He was alert and following the Dr. as he did various tests. He put him on the floor and he fell over. He noted that he recorded in his chart on the last visit his right pupil was dilated. He felt that his problem was brain related. He gave him a shot of Dethametaxone and some pills in the prednisone family. Dakota weights 7lbs so he perscribed 1/2 pill two times a day. That afternoon within about 3 hours he was his old self. I started giving him the pills and by Friday he was panting and urinating in the house. I did not realize that this was a side effect of the Prednisone. By Sunday evening he started acting strange again and falling over. I took him to an emergency vet hospital where they also verified the same observation as my vet. He was having issues in his head. He could not stand and was falling over to the left. He would not put his paws straight down to stand. The Dr. was kind in giving me some things to think about. I was not able to afford the expensive tests that she would preform to be 100% sure of the problem. I took Dakota home and decided to see what would happen with him the next morning. To my surprise he was walking a bit in the morning and was able to go to the bathroom. He was eating but still very quiet as he tried to do his normal running to the door when the ups man rang the bell only to find he would fall and then seemed very depressed. He slept and laid almost all day long. I called the vet to get his additional thoughts. He told me to cut back on the Prednisone to lessen the side effects. He said to just keep an eye on him. It was not time to put him down. I have been spending many hours researching this problem only to find that Yorkshires have this problem. Now I understand how I lost my last two. All of the symptoms were all becoming clear to me. I lost my first Yorkie at 8 yrs old as he had sudden seizures. My 13 year old tea cup started having some of these signs leading to what I thought was a stroke. Now my 9 year old male Dakota. We just lost our little one almost a year ago to date. So now having to deal with this, I am just sick over and don't know what to do. This morning he could not walk at all. He did move his bowels but could not empty his bladder since he could not stand up. I gave him his 1/2 pill of prednisone and hand fed him a scrambled egg. It took about an hour for the pill to kick in as then he was able to go outside and walk around finding his special spot to urinate. I am not sure what to expect from here. I don't know what to do after reading about Encephalitis. Some say there is no hope but I have been reading some say there is. I feel this is what he has based on information read. I even tried to use some holistic forms of treatment to help build his immune system based on what I have been reading. I appreciate any information or advice I can get. |
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11-06-2012, 10:45 PM | #2 |
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11-06-2012, 11:00 PM | #3 |
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| There are so mannnny things that fit this description...your pup is not that old...I would consider getting a loan, care credit or something and get this pup to a specialist, he needs to be seen and properly diagnosed. Tests need to be done to determine his prognosis and treatment. You mention your other pups having this problem? Are they all from the same breeder? Teacup? Purchasing pups from a breeder touting teacups is also bad as these pups are Usually poorly bred... Please stick around YT and read up as much as possible and hopefully others will come along with more help. I'm so sorry you and your pup are going through this...please keep us posted...
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11-07-2012, 06:34 AM | #4 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: aliquippa pa usa
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| I cut back on his pred to 1/2 pill per day. As soon as I give it to him within an hour or so he can move around a bit. He even wanted to play a bit yesterday suddenly loosing his balance and realizing he couldn't. By about 5pm he started stumbling and as the night progressed not walking much at all. So it seems that the medication helps but if I give him 1/2 two times a day he pants and loses his water. I feel that I should go back to the two halves twice a day possibly 10 hrs apart. This morning he is lifeless. He managed to empty his bladder only to fall into the puddle. I know he needs to move his bowels but can't manage to hold himself up and won't do it with my help. I made him his egg with cheese this morning and he doesn't want to eat it. I am sure once the medication kicks in he will want to eat. I may have to call the vet again today to see if there is another medication we can give him without all the side effects. It is clear that he needs more dosage to help him. I am not sure if I am doing the right thing keeping him hanging on like this. It is tearing me up inside. I appreciate your thoughts and comments. I wished I was able to get him to a specialist but not sure if I want to put him through all of that too. I did not get my pets all from the same breeder. Both my first and tea cup came from reputable breeders. Dakota was a pet store dog but he stole my heart as after I lost my first male in a snap I did not think I could love another. I saw him and he reminded me so much of my Corkie that I melted and had to have him. All of my Yorkies have been great dogs. Funny each one teaching the new puppy the ropes! I guess like having many children. Each one helps to teach the other. |
11-07-2012, 09:43 AM | #5 |
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| When was he last vaccinated and which vaccines did he get? Could he have had any head injury or trauma?
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11-07-2012, 10:38 AM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: aliquippa pa usa
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| he had his current shots about a year ago. I believe it was a rabbi shot. Also his regular series of shots for the year. I need to look that up. He did fall down the steps last winter while staying with my daughter when we were out of town. She has wooden steps but she said he bounced back and didn't show any signs of injury. When we got home we did notice that he would seem to fall into a deep sleep very quickly as he was snoring loudly. He did not do that before. Sometimes he would walk around nervous panting. He became very demanding of treats and would persistently ask for them. Probably because the children spoiled him with multiple treats. HA! Someone mentioned to me to get Laminin and give that to him. I really couldn't find too much on it for pets. It is designed for usage in humans but you can give it to your pet as well. |
11-07-2012, 11:50 AM | #7 |
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| Whether or not encephalitis can be cured is solely dependent on what is causing it. It basically means swelling on the brain, which makes sense as the Prednisone helps. Has any xrays or bloodwork been done? I would start there, IMHO. And figure out a way to keep him comfortable and on Prednisone. Maybe something would show on xray or in the bloodwork, then go from there. Sorry this is happening to your dog and you. Praying you can get him diagnosed and treated.
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11-07-2012, 12:16 PM | #8 |
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| I am sorry that your sweet Dakota is going through this. When Buster had his LP surgery it was suggested to use a towel as a sling to help hold up Buster when he was doing his business. Maybe you could try that. I hope you can get him in for tests so that you have a better understanding what is causing him these issues. Then you can decide what is best. Sending prayers for Dakota.
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11-07-2012, 04:05 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: aliquippa pa usa
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| Thank you for all of your kind words. I appreciate all. I am going to continue on the medication. Funny but after he got the shot last Monday and I had him on the pill form he was almost his old self again. After he was having side effects panting and losing control of his urine we cut back the medications. Then it was like we never treated him. |
11-08-2012, 01:33 PM | #10 | |
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11-08-2012, 09:39 PM | #11 |
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| Got an email from my vet today sounds like your baby. I will try to paste it here hope it helps. Meet Buddy, a very sweet 1 year old Maltese. He has been seen by the doctor since he was just a young puppy and had always been healthy until he developed vomiting, mild muscle tremors and a decreased appetite in early September. Blood testing performed on Buddy had no abnormalities, but his tremors became much more severe. Within just a few days he had extreme difficulty walking and was unable to sleep due to the severe shaking. After ruling out other potential causes of tremors (toxins, pain, dehydration), Buddy was started on a trial of high dose steroid medication for suspected White Shaker's Disease. Within a week of starting on steroid medication, his tremors had fully resolved and Buddy returned to being a happy, healthy puppy. The steroid medication is gradually being decreased over the next few months to prevent a relapse of tremors. His long term prognosis is excellent! Buddy White Shaker's disease is a rare steroid responsive tremor disorder. The cause of the disease is unknown, but is suspected to be related to an autoimmune disorder based on the response to steroids. The name "White Shaker's Disease" was originally used because the condition most commonly occurred in small white breed dogs (maltese, westies, etc), however, this disease has been diagnosed in other non-white breed small dogs. There is no test for the disease, so diagnosis is based on history, symptoms, normal laboratory findings, & response to steroid medication. Prognosis with treatment is excellent, although some dogs may have relapses in the future requiring treatment with steroids later in life.
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11-09-2012, 06:37 AM | #12 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member | I am sorry that Dakota is going through this. Maybe the pills can be cut in 1/4 and spread out more. Just a thought Good luck with his treatment. Please keep us updated. Hugs to you both |
11-13-2012, 09:18 PM | #13 |
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| My boy had this happen after his last rabies vaccine. I would ask the vet to give up on the pills and go with a prednisone syrup. I had to give my boy the syrup for a solid two weeks before he was all squared up. I do agree with the others that you have to find out what is causing this. |
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