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Smokey2011 · 12-24-2011, 05:58 AM

[QUOTE=concretegurl;3767421]
Honestly now I'm just feeling like I wasn't more informed and not accepting the usual treatment like so many were-I was completely uniformed passively "trying" new treatments instead of following what works for everyone else.QUOTE]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda, second guessing ourselves and the intense guilt that goes along with it serves no purpose and only causes us more suffering and stress than we are already going through.

I have no experience with seizures so far, but I do have 7 urns to show for my long-time experience with canine cancer and congestive heart failure. My brain tells me that in each case, I did the best I could with the information and treatment available to me, but my heart tells me that maybe I coulda, woulda, shoulda done better.

In reading your post, my brain AND my heart tell me that you have done, are doing and will continue to do everything humanly possible for your loved one. I respect and bless you for that

107barney · 12-24-2011, 01:31 PM

You might find this article by Dewey of interest to you. He discusses different medications he also states "It is very important for the clinician to inform the pet owner that less than 30% of epileptics become seizure free"

The District of Columbia Academy of Veterinary Medicine

concretegurl · 01-06-2012, 07:12 PM

Well pheno has been going fine until tonight, Elvis just started seizure #2 10 minutes from seizure 1.

Given this is less than before & not last as long or as frequent but still. Got my parents on standby for me to rush him in again if needed

I hate this I wish there was a cure.

kjc · 01-06-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Well pheno has been going fine until tonight, Elvis just started seizure #2 10 minutes from seizure 1.

Given this is less than before & not last as long or as frequent but still. Got my parents on standby for me to rush him in again if needed

I hate this I wish there was a cure.

Poor Elvis.... me too.

AllDogBoots · 01-06-2012, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Well pheno has been going fine until tonight, Elvis just started seizure #2 10 minutes from seizure 1.

Given this is less than before & not last as long or as frequent but still. Got my parents on standby for me to rush him in again if needed

I hate this I wish there was a cure.

How long has he been on pheno? Have his levels been checked since? It takes quite some time to enter his system and regulate. I'm not surprised that he had 2 seizures as the medicine is still quite new. Hang in there and stay alert.

concretegurl · 01-07-2012, 12:12 AM

Since December 22, we test levels after 30 days with his new vet (same on my other dogs go to).

I know I'm impatient.

I know it's cliche, but he's such a great little guy (okay he's just finished out @ 12 lbs) but poor Elvis already has early arthritis and needs meds for that. He came with bad teeth, we barely saved them, (my vet, groomer and I) initially my vet though we would have to remove all his teeth literally every single one of them (his teeth were literally black/brown with tartar coating them so much you couldn't distinguish one tooth from the next but only see there were all there by the yellow tips when I first got him). Two dentals later and regular scraping from my groomer plus leba II we're still working on getting them 'healthy' two years later.

Elvis needs no training he either just does the first time or just doesn't (literally when I put a leash on him he flipped out we went through a long process one day I just gave up took it off and he helped me realize I can walk the other two on a leash and he will walk right next to me but he is very unsure of a leash-since we have have spent a year working on it and only that, he can now walk on a leash to safe, but if there was ever a dog who didn't really need one it's him) and he is the sweetest most affectionate, protective lap dog.

He's just got a very special personality, and it makes it all the more unfair he has to go through something on top of everything else that I can see by his behavior just terrifies him.

I found out a lot about where and who he came from and in the end I realized I bought a rescue in every sense of the word. I don't think he ever saw a vet prior to me with the exception of the two rabies vac and health checks he had to get to be flown from Terry C. to Elaine S. and then from her to be flown to me. Everyone claimed to have loved and cared for him (yeah okay) but this little guy had the deck stacked against him (I'm guess I'll never know if Elaina knew he was epileptic prior to coming to me it doesn't really matter). He had a lot of similar behaviors as my pup mill rescue and still has to work on overcoming some things.

Cluster seizures were just the icing on his cake of issues. I know I'm impatient and that this will never go away but I see how confused he is and how literally terrified he is every seizure and with cluster seizures one means several at a time-every seizure I try to stay calm it should be "normal" now but I have that awful dread that he might slip away because of one or not come out of it and I'll have to make that hard choice.

I guess I realized it all very soon after getting him and it was like okay he's another rescue with rescue needs time to clean him up and make it all better for him-I can't make epilepsy better or solve it, it's just medicating it and dealing with it for the long haul.

With the exception of when he's left at home and I go out he is literally always by my side, he can be sleeping and I'll leave the room he'll jump up and follow me lay down where I go try to go back to sleep if he can and immediately get back up to follow me again if I move from there.

He's affected me so much in that I don't run all over the house I make every trip from room to room as planned as possible so he doesn't have to race around to be next to me. On colder days especially he moves slower like older dogs do & his little joints make the loudest popping sounds.

Sorry I went long and am rambling, this has just been a long frusterating process I want to see progress in it and the last set of seizures was just so bad, it brought up all the panic and shock l went through with the first set of seizures he had.

12-24-2011, 05:58 AM	#16
Smokey2011 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 90	[QUOTE=concretegurl;3767421] Honestly now I'm just feeling like I wasn't more informed and not accepting the usual treatment like so many were-I was completely uniformed passively "trying" new treatments instead of following what works for everyone else.QUOTE] Coulda, woulda, shoulda, second guessing ourselves and the intense guilt that goes along with it serves no purpose and only causes us more suffering and stress than we are already going through. I have no experience with seizures so far, but I do have 7 urns to show for my long-time experience with canine cancer and congestive heart failure. My brain tells me that in each case, I did the best I could with the information and treatment available to me, but my heart tells me that maybe I coulda, woulda, shoulda done better. In reading your post, my brain AND my heart tell me that you have done, are doing and will continue to do everything humanly possible for your loved one. I respect and bless you for that __________________ Smokey's personal assistant, Jeff

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01-06-2012, 07:12 PM	#18
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Well pheno has been going fine until tonight, Elvis just started seizure #2 10 minutes from seizure 1. Given this is less than before & not last as long or as frequent but still. Got my parents on standby for me to rush him in again if needed I hate this I wish there was a cure. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

01-07-2012, 12:12 AM	#21
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Since December 22, we test levels after 30 days with his new vet (same on my other dogs go to). I know I'm impatient. I know it's cliche, but he's such a great little guy (okay he's just finished out @ 12 lbs) but poor Elvis already has early arthritis and needs meds for that. He came with bad teeth, we barely saved them, (my vet, groomer and I) initially my vet though we would have to remove all his teeth literally every single one of them (his teeth were literally black/brown with tartar coating them so much you couldn't distinguish one tooth from the next but only see there were all there by the yellow tips when I first got him). Two dentals later and regular scraping from my groomer plus leba II we're still working on getting them 'healthy' two years later. Elvis needs no training he either just does the first time or just doesn't (literally when I put a leash on him he flipped out we went through a long process one day I just gave up took it off and he helped me realize I can walk the other two on a leash and he will walk right next to me but he is very unsure of a leash-since we have have spent a year working on it and only that, he can now walk on a leash to safe, but if there was ever a dog who didn't really need one it's him) and he is the sweetest most affectionate, protective lap dog. He's just got a very special personality, and it makes it all the more unfair he has to go through something on top of everything else that I can see by his behavior just terrifies him. I found out a lot about where and who he came from and in the end I realized I bought a rescue in every sense of the word. I don't think he ever saw a vet prior to me with the exception of the two rabies vac and health checks he had to get to be flown from Terry C. to Elaine S. and then from her to be flown to me. Everyone claimed to have loved and cared for him (yeah okay) but this little guy had the deck stacked against him (I'm guess I'll never know if Elaina knew he was epileptic prior to coming to me it doesn't really matter). He had a lot of similar behaviors as my pup mill rescue and still has to work on overcoming some things. Cluster seizures were just the icing on his cake of issues. I know I'm impatient and that this will never go away but I see how confused he is and how literally terrified he is every seizure and with cluster seizures one means several at a time-every seizure I try to stay calm it should be "normal" now but I have that awful dread that he might slip away because of one or not come out of it and I'll have to make that hard choice. I guess I realized it all very soon after getting him and it was like okay he's another rescue with rescue needs time to clean him up and make it all better for him-I can't make epilepsy better or solve it, it's just medicating it and dealing with it for the long haul. With the exception of when he's left at home and I go out he is literally always by my side, he can be sleeping and I'll leave the room he'll jump up and follow me lay down where I go try to go back to sleep if he can and immediately get back up to follow me again if I move from there. He's affected me so much in that I don't run all over the house I make every trip from room to room as planned as possible so he doesn't have to race around to be next to me. On colder days especially he moves slower like older dogs do & his little joints make the loudest popping sounds. Sorry I went long and am rambling, this has just been a long frusterating process I want to see progress in it and the last set of seizures was just so bad, it brought up all the panic and shock l went through with the first set of seizures he had. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!