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chachi 11-07-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3719947)
Glad your baby is ok. In the future if your baby has a fall or hits his head hard enough to cause those symptoms no matter how long or short they may be, you need to consider it an emergency. These types of accidents can & often do cause swelling in the brain that can later cause scarring which can cause life long seizures and/or death. Only a vet can tell if there is swelling in the brain & prescribe the proper anti-inflammatory. If this were my dog I would still go to the vet for a check up as in my opinion, he's not out of the woods just yet.

:thumbup:I still think he needs a vet check

Doodlebug 11-08-2011 05:15 AM

He is so cute!!! I'm glad he is ok. If it were my pup I would take him in and let the vet look him over just to be sure. I hope you stick around too. I would love to watch little Chipper grow up and hear updates on him.

tinalove 11-08-2011 07:04 AM

Lets all be nice. Accidents will happen. When my son was a baby I was dressing him in the pediatrician's exam room and he wiggled right onto the floor. He cried and I cried. The doctor checked him and told me to stop beating up myself. Lets not beat up the individual because they do enough of that themselves. Trust me I know. I am just glad Chipper is doing fine. However for your own reassurance a quick vet may put you at ease versus speaking with your vet on the phone.

My lil friend 11-08-2011 07:05 AM

So glad that your baby is ok. You will find people on this forum quite passionate about theirs and your furbabys. When choosing to or not to go to the ER vet,measure it up against what you would do for a skin baby. There are injurys that sometimes dont show up for hours or even days,sometimes a dog does not cry when in pain. An xray would tell you for sure that your baby is ok. If $$ is a factor then start a medical fund for your baby,I did and it came in handy just this past Sunday. Although these little ones are not skin kids,we,as their owners, are just as responsible for their care as if they were skin kids.
The information that you will find here will be most helpful. I have even been able to share things that I have learned here with my vet.

tem_sat 11-08-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 3719575)
If I called my vet and told him my baby fell 6 feet and he didn't insist on an exam, I would call another vet.

I could not agree more. Immediately, I would be in the car driving to the vet or the ER (hopefully fully clothed!). I would not have even thought to call my vet. However, I am glad that your Yorkie seems to be ok.

concretegurl 11-08-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tem_sat (Post 3721001)
I could not agree more. Immediately, I would be in the car driving to the vet or the ER (hopefully fully clothed!). I would not have even thought to call my vet. However, I am glad that your Yorkie seems to be ok.

When Elvis had his first seizure I didn't know exactly where the emergency vet clinic even was,I just knew we were going there immediately.

We needed to get help (yes I'm the person who momentarily wanted to dial 9-1-1 and have an ambulance come to save my dog-but realized I'd need to take my dog to help) I couldn't reach my own vet (it was after hours and yes we no longer go there) I kind if knew the turn off towards the shopping center where the new ER vet was located...off we went out the door!

I had two different flip flops on (we kept our shoes in the closet by front door and only wore slippers in the house) my poor son didn't even have shoes on...we literally flew out the door I had Elvis in my arms wrapped in a towel my son on my back-I did however have my purse thrown over my shoulders with my wallet and cell phone in it thankfully.

laci32 11-08-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3717514)
Is this for real??? Can you imagine dropping an infant from 6 feet in the air on a wood floor and not getting it to an emergency room asap??? Seriously...who sells pups to these kinds of people....gggrrrr...

Yeah really baby smacked head hard, peed himself .Now stand him up and get him to walk. Shakes my head. I better shaaaad up now

Sandysbabies 11-08-2011 07:33 PM

Back years ago when little Tina broke her leg in 2 places she only cried for a couple of minutes. We thought maybe she just sprained it when she fell from the bed, but, boy was I glad we decided to take her on in to the vet to make sure. It never hurts to know for sure. Accidents happen to everyone and thats why they are called accidents because it was not done on purpose. Don't blame yourself, just take care of that baby.

RachelandSadie 11-08-2011 07:45 PM

i personally would still see a vet to make sure there are no internal injuries. pups bounce back fast from accidents but that doesn't always mean all is well inside. that's my advice from someone who has worked for a vet and seen dogs come in that seem fine and have major things going wrong inside their heads or internal organs.

Susan78 11-09-2011 04:25 AM

Please take him to a vet right away and have him checked out. It would really give you piece of mind and you will know if he really hurt himself. Prayers are with you and hope all goes well. Susan

megansmomma 11-09-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tinalove (Post 3720191)
Lets all be nice. Accidents will happen. When my son was a baby I was dressing him in the pediatrician's exam room and he wiggled right onto the floor. He cried and I cried. The doctor checked him and told me to stop beating up myself. Lets not beat up the individual because they do enough of that themselves. Trust me I know. I am just glad Chipper is doing fine. However for your own reassurance a quick vet may put you at ease versus speaking with your vet on the phone.

You were at the pediatrician and got immediate help. Big difference~

gidget529 11-09-2011 01:57 PM

I'm sure other med ppl will agree. I have seen pts much larger than a tiny yorkie fall from shorter distances and break much larger bones that the little pup has. Just bc someone has fallen and has been lucky and nothing was broken does not mean the next individual who falls from the same or even lesser distance will not have a fracture.

An old saying, "Just bc you went and got checked out at the dr and everything was ok does not mean I was wrong in telling you to go - it means you were lucky and the things I knew could be wrong w you weren't."

Taryn0405 11-09-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gidget529 (Post 3722009)
I'm sure other med ppl will agree. I have seen pts much larger than a tiny yorkie fall from shorter distances and break much larger bones that the little pup has. Just bc someone has fallen and has been lucky and nothing was broken does not mean the next individual who falls from the same or even lesser distance will not have a fracture.

An old saying, "Just bc you went and got checked out at the dr and everything was ok does not mean I was wrong in telling you to go - it means you were lucky and the things I knew could be wrong w you weren't."

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Heck I knew if I fell 6 ft, almost everything would be broken.
Just another tip to the OP as well..

I'm very tall too. And I know even I'm not prepared for how wiggly these guys can be. However, Gizmo almost always has his step-in harness on and if I feel like he's going to be a wiggle worm, or someone new is picking him up, I tell them to hold onto the harness as well.

myteddybear 11-09-2011 02:52 PM

Just as a testament to how small a fall can be and still cause serious damage.

My daughter (now 13) stepped back off of a 4 inch step not realizing it was there when she was just 1 and not walking long. We were in front of our church talking to the pastor when it happened. She didn't fall just stepped back off the step and not realizing it was there she went down wrong and cried. I knew right away by the sound of her cry that it wasn't the normal cry and almost immediately I knew something was wrong. I said I think she must have broken something and the pastor says "oh no, I think you are over reacting a little, there is no way she broke something from that little step" Well she wasn't crying anymore but we left and took her to the ER and sure enough she had a stress fracture in her leg near her ankle. The pastor couldn't believe it after such a small thing but imagine if we hadn't taken her in!

megansmomma 11-09-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by myteddybear (Post 3722077)
Just as a testament to how small a fall can be and still cause serious damage.

My daughter (now 13) stepped back off of a 4 inch step not realizing it was there when she was just 1 and not walking long. We were in front of our church talking to the pastor when it happened. She didn't fall just stepped back off the step and not realizing it was there she went down wrong and cried. I knew right away by the sound of her cry that it wasn't the normal cry and almost immediately I knew something was wrong. I said I think she must have broken something and the pastor says "oh no, I think you are over reacting a little, there is no way she broke something from that little step" Well she wasn't crying anymore but we left and took her to the ER and sure enough she had a stress fracture in her leg near her ankle. The pastor couldn't believe it after such a small thing but imagine if we hadn't taken her in!

I fell in my kitchen and broke my arm in three places. Wasn't a far fall but it sure did a lot of damage. I now have a plate and 8 screws in my left arm. So yes, a fall can do a lot of damage.

tem_sat 11-09-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3722032)
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Heck I knew if I fell 6 ft, almost everything would be broken.

A 6 foot fall for a Yorkie puppy would be equivalent to falling off a multistory building. The same applies for my Doxie, due to his 3 inch legs.

concretegurl 11-09-2011 07:58 PM

Theoretically.

I swear when my Yorkie dove off the back of my couch at 3 1/2 feet tall my heart skipped a beat I just knew he was going to break all four legs.

He just proceeded to run to the window to bark at the guy standing at our door!

Yorkies are actually (like most dogs) much more equip to land or jump distances several multiples their height...land on their feet that is.

However at the first sign of eve a yelp or limp I'd be taking any breed dog to the vet immediately. Animals genuinely hide pain it's a survival instinct.

Rhetts_mama 11-11-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lillymae (Post 3719947)
Glad your baby is ok. In the future if your baby has a fall or hits his head hard enough to cause those symptoms no matter how long or short they may be, you need to consider it an emergency. These types of accidents can & often do cause swelling in the brain that can later cause scarring which can cause life long seizures and/or death. Only a vet can tell if there is swelling in the brain & prescribe the proper anti-inflammatory. If this were my dog I would still go to the vet for a check up as in my opinion, he's not out of the woods just yet.

It also needs to be reinforced that a vet can't make that determination via a phone call any more than a human physician can make the diagnosis of a head injury over the phone. Any vet that tells you otherwise in the face of symptoms being present (no matter how briefly) is one you should be running from. It takes a hands on exam by an experienced person to make the determination about whether or not further testing is warranted. The Internet should never be a substitute for competent vet care.

teacup0819 11-13-2011 09:15 AM

I have been reading and following this thread without posting because everyone else had such great advice, but here is my two cents .... we all know that this pup should have been brought right to the ER vet with the symptoms he was showing and that the vet that gave advice over the phone was a huge "red flag" to run for the hills.....it seems that the OP really didn't want advice.....she just wanted to share the experience :rolleyes:

imdll 11-14-2011 01:11 PM

What a frightening experience. I experienced something similar with mylittle Lu a few months ago when Lu decided to leap out of my niece's arms on tomy ceramic tile floor. My niece is 6 feet tall and that would make the fall between 3 to 4 feet. By the description I suspect that is likely how far this other little dog fell as well. I thought I might have a heart attack or be sick as I watched Lu land on the floor. Fortunately she was fine. There was no blame to lay as Lu simply behaved unpredictably and chose to take a flying leap for no logical reason. Sometimes dogs do ridiculous things. I haven't read through every single post on this thread but have read enough to agree with some and be saddened by others.

I agree that considering the symptoms this little fellow exhibited right after his fall that a trip to the vet would have been a wise choice. There are numerous things that can occur with such a fall, the symptoms that occurred right after would indicate to me a reason to have things checked out thoroughly. Had he not shown any major symptoms right after the fall I may have considered just keeping a very close eye on him as dogs can do some rather amazing things and be just fine, but that would be a judgement call that not all would feel comfortable with and I would not give that counsel to someone else.

When someone comes here to share an experience or gain advice I think those responding should show some consideration and understanding for the feelings of the original poster. There are some people on this site who are very quick to pass judgement and seem to feel rather comfortable condemning others. I find that awfully disappointing and hope those who chose to behave that way in the past will take a step back and consider they probably would not appreciate being treated likewise. We do not always have to agree but I think we can disagree, share our different opinions or concerns with respect and consideration.

concretegurl 11-15-2011 04:38 PM

IMHO we need stricter animal welfare laws...

imdll 11-15-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by concretegurl (Post 3729624)
IMHO we need stricter animal welfare laws...

People make decisions based upon the information they have available to them at the time combined with their personal experiences. Not everyone has the same knowledge nor the same life experiences to draw from and that is why places like YT can be helpful.

Saying things that are meant to be hurtful or to condemn someone when they have only done their best, is not helpful and not what I understand to be the purpose of this board.

Thankfully things with this little dog turned out ok. Why can't we simply be happy about that and try to create a place where people can learn from one another? People aren't going to stick around and learn from the members here if when they share something they get attacked and pretty much told how stupid they are. That doesn't do much to create an atmosphere that someone might want to return to.

Everyone who has been busy passing judgement could try realizing they are not perfect and have either in the past or will in the future make a decision that was foolish or made without fully understanding a situation. Shall people who have more knowledge and experience line up to condemn you? I hope they don't.

I am disappointed everytime I see judgemental and condemning statements on this board and the behavior is far too common. I wonder how many people have left from here because they felt attacked? Is that really the sort of environment we want to have here?

My lil friend 11-16-2011 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by imdll (Post 3729988)
People make decisions based upon the information they have available to them at the time combined with their personal experiences. Not everyone has the same knowledge nor the same life experiences to draw from and that is why places like YT can be helpful.

Saying things that are meant to be hurtful or to condemn someone when they have only done their best, is not helpful and not what I understand to be the purpose of this board.

Thankfully things with this little dog turned out ok. Why can't we simply be happy about that and try to create a place where people can learn from one another? People aren't going to stick around and learn from the members here if when they share something they get attacked and pretty much told how stupid they are. That doesn't do much to create an atmosphere that someone might want to return to.

Everyone who has been busy passing judgement could try realizing they are not perfect and have either in the past or will in the future make a decision that was foolish or made without fully understanding a situation. Shall people who have more knowledge and experience line up to condemn you? I hope they don't.

I am disappointed everytime I see judgemental and condemning statements on this board and the behavior is far too common. I wonder how many people have left from here because they felt attacked? Is that really the sort of environment we want to have here?

Very well said.
A bit of civility and good old fashioned manners goes so much further in teaching than blunt honesty. Because the consern is always for the pup,you definately want to speak in a manner that would want to draw someone new in,not put them off.

concretegurl 11-16-2011 11:05 AM

Was it meant to hurt or condemn? No.

Numerous posters noted the need for emergency care-it was obviously ignored.

Was it doing 'their' best? IMO no, yours apparently yes. It's a difference of opinions then.

If we had tougher animal welfare laws then by default people would be better educated. Right? I think so.

Furthermore it's just common sense, for those aware, that the laws in the US are far beyond adequate-are you familiar with US laws imbll?

In fact, Canadian animal welfare laws are stricter as a whole. Subjectively of course.

It's not by responsibility to placate posters, even into doing what's right for their animal just to follow YT rules. I got my hand slapped & put in my places by mods. so...

You be you, I'll be me. We'll all state our positions and leave it where it lays. :thumbup:

chachi 11-16-2011 11:17 AM

If you cant take a variety of answers some blunt some sugar coated then you shouldnt come on a forum with a variety of members and different posting styles for an answer to your question. Like it or not your gonna get it all. When I was new I got blasted and learned something from it. It is all what you make it.

jnsdrexler02 11-16-2011 11:30 AM

I agree!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by lvtyorkie (Post 3718739)
OMG have someofyou guys all lost your minds? Certainly this puppy need to see a vet asap but to be so judgemental and critical of this lady is uncalled for. It would have been enough to recommend she take the puppy to the vet. Hope you never have an accident with your babies and have some self righteous person pointing fingers. I have noticed this before on other posts- come on we can do better.

I was thinking the exact same thing!!!!!! Thank you for posting this. Let's just show some support here everyone. Sometimes when things happen we panic and in our panic we reach out hoping to hear someone tell us that the same thing has happened to them and not to worry!!!! I hope your baby is okay.........the same thing happened to my baby when she was only 2 months old.........she is fine by the way!!!!!!

Rhetts_mama 11-16-2011 11:34 AM

Never fails, when ever there is a topic that is even remotely controversial, someone always comes on and whines..."you are being meeeaaannnn". Really people, grow up. Worry about your own responses rather than what everyone else is posting. In fact, it could easily be looked at two ways, while you are complaining we are being mean or rude, some of us could complain that you are encouraging irresponsible behavior that puts dogs at risk. As for what works for a particular poster, some need to be Molly coddled, others need a two by four upside the head to understand things (common sense is, unfortunately, not common.) What you might think works for the OP might not work for the next person reading these threads, and no thread is reserved for a single reader.


As far as I'm concerned, the only one who has the authority here to go on and comment
about a posters style of posting is Admin or one of the Mods. From anyone else, it's just more noise from the polite police. I whole heartedly agree with Chachi, if you are going to be on a public forum, you need to put your big girl panties on.

Taryn0405 11-16-2011 11:42 AM

The joy of the internet is that nothing is private. You're taking a risk posting on a forum. Many people have many personalities and some have high tolerance for stupidity, some have low. That's the risk you're going to have to take.

By the way, it's really hard to pick or being "snide" or "rude" with regards to black and white typing.

I agree with Rhetts Momma, put the big girl panties on!

RachelandSadie 11-16-2011 12:46 PM

ask for answers to a question on the internet you get all kinds of them and YES they will be mostly opinion answers...that's why it's a OPEN FORUM...nuff said

111lily222 11-16-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama (Post 3730468)
Never fails, when ever there is a topic that is even remotely controversial, someone always comes on and whines..."you are being meeeaaannnn". Really people, grow up. Worry about your own responses rather than what everyone else is posting. In fact, it could easily be looked at two ways, while you are complaining we are being mean or rude, some of us could complain that you are encouraging irresponsible behavior that puts dogs at risk. As for what works for a particular poster, some need to be Molly coddled, others need a two by four upside the head to understand things (common sense is, unfortunately, not common.) What you might think works for the OP might not work for the next person reading these threads, and no thread is reserved for a single reader.


As far as I'm concerned, the only one who has the authority here to go on and comment
about a posters style of posting is Admin or one of the Mods. From anyone else, it's just more noise from the polite police. I whole heartedly agree with Chachi, if you are going to be on a public forum, you need to put your big girl panties on.

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