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Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 08:29 PM

This is my first post on here, although I have been a lurker for awhile.

My situation is very sad and I am so heartbroken right now. My sweet Gretta turns 1 year tomorrow, and Sunday she was diagnosed with a tracheal collapse. She is a little over 3 lbs. She started honking a couple weeks ago when getting excited and I just figured it was reverse sneezing. Well this Friday she started wheezing constantly and by Sunday she seemed to be struggling for air so much. I took her to an emergency vet hospital and they x-rayed her and her collapse is pretty severe in one spot. They gave her Theophylline and a shot but it didn't seem to do much good. I took her to her normal vet yesterday and he pretty much told me that medicine won't help as it won't of course open the collapsed part. She is eating and drinking well. She got so excited when I got home today. One of her vets main concerns is that she is breathing in so hard, and using her stomach muscles to get air, this is constant. Her wheezing is constant. I have kept her quiet and my children know to not get her excited.

I am soooo emotionally tied up in this little baby and am crying while writing this. She is so young and I feel cheated, I want more time with her! Her breathing is labored. Because of her small size she is not a candidate for surgery. My question is, should I consider the dreaded.... putting her to eternal sleep. She is struggling for air constantly, the wheezing does not stop. She strains her neck and opens her mouth for air sometimes. I don't want to lose my baby...but I don't want this most precious thing to suffer just because of my emotional ties.

If anyone is familiar with the severity degrees in this issue I would really appreciate any insight into this. I don't know if constant wheezing is normal, I am afraid it isn't. She has been sleeping a lot today. Thank you.

kjc · 01-04-2011, 08:43 PM

I'm so sorry for you and your baby having to go through this. It is severe when she's at this stage and she's so young. Surgery is not very successful even if she were a candidate for it. CT is a horrible, devastating condition. My prayers are for you as you make your decision.

Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 08:50 PM

Thank you for your prayers...God knows that I need them, I am a mess. I have been having a lot of marital problems through the year, and she is the only one I have had to cry with...she is a dear sweet friend to me, and it really hurts..I just don't want to let her go. She is so sweet, timid, and loving. She has been a blessing to me. Thank you for your response, I have never been around a dog with this problem so even though I have been reading a lot about it, I don't know what is normal as it advances. I do know she is extremely young to get it. I cant reconcile knowing that I am going to go in someplace and not come back with her alive. This is so hard.. thanks for listening.

Patti · 01-04-2011, 08:52 PM

I am sorry your first post is about your baby being so sick.I lost my Gracie at 6 1/2 to collapsed trachea. Her's was collapsed in the thoracic area and not a candidate for surgery. She did ok on meds for about a year and then one day she hadn't moved from the spot I left her in when I went to work and was having great difficulty breathing. I took her to my vet and she I asked her her opinion on what to do. She said she is struggling for every breath and is not enjoying life. I knew then it was time. If your Gretta responds to the medicine, continues to eat and drink she may have some quality of life. I know with Gracie it was critical to keep her from getting excited and that wasn't easy. It is the hardest decision to make but if they are suffering we have to do what is best for them. I think she will let you know when she has had enough. I will keep you both in my prayers.

Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 08:58 PM

Thank you for your response. She is struggling. Is euthanasia really painless? I just want her to go to sleep in peace and not feel a thing.

kjc · 01-04-2011, 09:01 PM

I know you are concerned with her right now, but has her breeder offered any support, as this is a congenital condition in this breed. They will need to be notified so they do not continue to breed the parents, and some breeders offer a one year health guarantee... some lifetime against congenital defects....

kjc · 01-04-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gretta_Bear

Thank you for your response. She is struggling. Is euthanasia really painless? I just want her to go to sleep in peace and not feel a thing.

Yes, and sometimes the vet will give an injection beforehand to keep them calm. It's an overdose of anesthetic agent like they use for surgeries.

jencar98 · 01-04-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gretta_Bear

Thank you for your response. She is struggling. Is euthanasia really painless? I just want her to go to sleep in peace and not feel a thing.

My heart breaks for you, I am so very sorry.

From my experience with our blue heeler that had to be PTS, I don't believe there is any pain, her face nor body showed any signs of pain. I did stay with her, holding her and telling her how much she was loved by all of us.....she just quietly, quickly slipped away.....

Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 09:08 PM

I have not contacted her breeder. I know I need to talk to her, but it makes me sick. That someone could be breeding dogs without getting the parents tested. I wasn't knowledgeable enough to ask about testing before getting her. I looked into different breeders and this one did seem knowledgable and responsible on several fronts, and I did a lot of homework-I guess not deep enough, but I didn't know that the parents should be tested. She does offer a health guarantee but only at the replacement of the dog. I don't want another dog from her. I actually bought a playmate for Gretta from the same breeder about 4 months ago and it died of parvo a week later. We just got a replacement for that dog from her about a month ago. I feel without a doubt that the parvo of course was not her fault, yet she replaced it. I will let her know about Gretta's problems, but the thought of me getting another puppy to replace Gretta makes me want to vomit.

Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kjc

Yes, and sometimes the vet will give an injection beforehand to keep them calm. It's an overdose of anesthetic agent like they use for surgeries.

Thank you, I will make sure that they do this first.

Patti · 01-04-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gretta_Bear

Thank you for your response. She is struggling. Is euthanasia really painless? I just want her to go to sleep in peace and not feel a thing.

I believe it is. I always stay with my baby and hold them while they cross over to the Rainbow Bridge. Mine have all gone peacefully. My heart breaks for you. She is so young. A couple of years ago I had to put my 7 month old (Dixie) to sleep due to congenital kidney failure. It is always hard to let them go but it just seems so unfair when they are so young. Dixie's breeder cried along with me and when I was ready she gave me another baby to share my heart with. I would definitely let your breeder know so they do not breed Gretta's parents again.

Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jencar98

My heart breaks for you, I am so very sorry.

From my experience with our blue heeler that had to be PTS, I don't believe there is any pain, her face nor body showed any signs of pain. I did stay with her, holding her and telling her how much she was loved by all of us.....she just quietly, quickly slipped away.....

This is how I would want her to go. I am sorry about your loss.

salazark · 01-04-2011, 09:11 PM

Im so sorry you are going through this. I just want you to know That my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Gretta_Bear · 01-04-2011, 09:18 PM

I will be there to hold her. I am just scared I am making the wrong decision, I don't think I have convinced myself that it is really as bad as it is. I can't help but thinking that it may get better...but the way she is breathing...it is bad, and it is constant, there are no "fits", it is just there, that wheezing noise... I don't want to put her down tomorrow...how ironic the day she entered the world she should leave it.

Princes mom · 01-04-2011, 09:22 PM

I am so sorry to hear about your baby. I lost my baby, Prince, to collapsing trachea on Oct. 1, 2010 and I can literally ditto everthing Patti said in the above post...Prince was also 6.5 years young, his situation was not operable, and during his last few weeks, his medication stopped working and he was struggling to inhale. He did not have a quality of life as eating and drinking became more and more difficult. After staying up all night with him, and trying to make him comfortable, we knew it was time. We were praying for a miracle, but we couldn't have our baby suffer. We love Prince and didn't want him to be in pain.
You will know...you will know.

01-04-2011, 08:29 PM	#1
Gretta_Bear YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Garland, Texas, USA Posts: 9	I need serious advice please... This is my first post on here, although I have been a lurker for awhile. My situation is very sad and I am so heartbroken right now. My sweet Gretta turns 1 year tomorrow, and Sunday she was diagnosed with a tracheal collapse. She is a little over 3 lbs. She started honking a couple weeks ago when getting excited and I just figured it was reverse sneezing. Well this Friday she started wheezing constantly and by Sunday she seemed to be struggling for air so much. I took her to an emergency vet hospital and they x-rayed her and her collapse is pretty severe in one spot. They gave her Theophylline and a shot but it didn't seem to do much good. I took her to her normal vet yesterday and he pretty much told me that medicine won't help as it won't of course open the collapsed part. She is eating and drinking well. She got so excited when I got home today. One of her vets main concerns is that she is breathing in so hard, and using her stomach muscles to get air, this is constant. Her wheezing is constant. I have kept her quiet and my children know to not get her excited. I am soooo emotionally tied up in this little baby and am crying while writing this. She is so young and I feel cheated, I want more time with her! Her breathing is labored. Because of her small size she is not a candidate for surgery. My question is, should I consider the dreaded.... putting her to eternal sleep. She is struggling for air constantly, the wheezing does not stop. She strains her neck and opens her mouth for air sometimes. I don't want to lose my baby...but I don't want this most precious thing to suffer just because of my emotional ties. If anyone is familiar with the severity degrees in this issue I would really appreciate any insight into this. I don't know if constant wheezing is normal, I am afraid it isn't. She has been sleeping a lot today. Thank you.

01-04-2011, 08:43 PM	#2
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	I'm so sorry for you and your baby having to go through this. It is severe when she's at this stage and she's so young. Surgery is not very successful even if she were a candidate for it. CT is a horrible, devastating condition. My prayers are for you as you make your decision. __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity

01-04-2011, 08:52 PM	#4
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I am sorry your first post is about your baby being so sick.I lost my Gracie at 6 1/2 to collapsed trachea. Her's was collapsed in the thoracic area and not a candidate for surgery. She did ok on meds for about a year and then one day she hadn't moved from the spot I left her in when I went to work and was having great difficulty breathing. I took her to my vet and she I asked her her opinion on what to do. She said she is struggling for every breath and is not enjoying life. I knew then it was time. If your Gretta responds to the medicine, continues to eat and drink she may have some quality of life. I know with Gracie it was critical to keep her from getting excited and that wasn't easy. It is the hardest decision to make but if they are suffering we have to do what is best for them. I think she will let you know when she has had enough. I will keep you both in my prayers. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

01-04-2011, 09:01 PM	#6
kjc I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 18,866	I know you are concerned with her right now, but has her breeder offered any support, as this is a congenital condition in this breed. They will need to be notified so they do not continue to breed the parents, and some breeders offer a one year health guarantee... some lifetime against congenital defects.... __________________ Kat Chloe Lizzy PeekABooTinkerbell SapphireInfinity Last edited by kjc; 01-04-2011 at 09:05 PM.

01-04-2011, 09:11 PM	#13
salazark Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 941	Im so sorry you are going through this. I just want you to know That my thoughts and prayers are with you. __________________ *Karen and the Kids* Sadie and Beemer

01-04-2011, 08:50 PM	#3
Gretta_Bear YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Garland, Texas, USA Posts: 9	Thank you for your prayers...God knows that I need them, I am a mess. I have been having a lot of marital problems through the year, and she is the only one I have had to cry with...she is a dear sweet friend to me, and it really hurts..I just don't want to let her go. She is so sweet, timid, and loving. She has been a blessing to me. Thank you for your response, I have never been around a dog with this problem so even though I have been reading a lot about it, I don't know what is normal as it advances. I do know she is extremely young to get it. I cant reconcile knowing that I am going to go in someplace and not come back with her alive. This is so hard.. thanks for listening.

01-04-2011, 08:58 PM	#5
Gretta_Bear YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Garland, Texas, USA Posts: 9	Thank you for your response. She is struggling. Is euthanasia really painless? I just want her to go to sleep in peace and not feel a thing.

01-04-2011, 09:08 PM	#9
Gretta_Bear YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Garland, Texas, USA Posts: 9	I have not contacted her breeder. I know I need to talk to her, but it makes me sick. That someone could be breeding dogs without getting the parents tested. I wasn't knowledgeable enough to ask about testing before getting her. I looked into different breeders and this one did seem knowledgable and responsible on several fronts, and I did a lot of homework-I guess not deep enough, but I didn't know that the parents should be tested. She does offer a health guarantee but only at the replacement of the dog. I don't want another dog from her. I actually bought a playmate for Gretta from the same breeder about 4 months ago and it died of parvo a week later. We just got a replacement for that dog from her about a month ago. I feel without a doubt that the parvo of course was not her fault, yet she replaced it. I will let her know about Gretta's problems, but the thought of me getting another puppy to replace Gretta makes me want to vomit.

01-04-2011, 09:18 PM	#14
Gretta_Bear YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Garland, Texas, USA Posts: 9	I will be there to hold her. I am just scared I am making the wrong decision, I don't think I have convinced myself that it is really as bad as it is. I can't help but thinking that it may get better...but the way she is breathing...it is bad, and it is constant, there are no "fits", it is just there, that wheezing noise... I don't want to put her down tomorrow...how ironic the day she entered the world she should leave it.

01-04-2011, 09:22 PM	#15
Princes mom YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 4,566	I am so sorry to hear about your baby. I lost my baby, Prince, to collapsing trachea on Oct. 1, 2010 and I can literally ditto everthing Patti said in the above post...Prince was also 6.5 years young, his situation was not operable, and during his last few weeks, his medication stopped working and he was struggling to inhale. He did not have a quality of life as eating and drinking became more and more difficult. After staying up all night with him, and trying to make him comfortable, we knew it was time. We were praying for a miracle, but we couldn't have our baby suffer. We love Prince and didn't want him to be in pain. You will know...you will know. __________________ Prince, rest in peace. We miss you and love you so much.