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Patti · 09-22-2010, 04:55 PM

I am glad you are looking in to all your options. The Care credit is great to have. One of mine had to have LP surgery and since I had applied for it a few years ago for one of my other babies i was already approved. It is allowing me to pay a 2500.00 bill with no interest for 12 months. I hope that works out for you.

nightnurse · 09-22-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

U Of Tenn is fabulous!

How was Gus diagnosed with a liver shunt? What tests did he have? What were the results?

If he is that feisty and loves to go on long walks, he may have been misdiagnosed.

I often wonder if Gus is misdiagnosed . He has more spunk and arrogance than any dog i have ever owned. He plays hard and rough, loves to go on walks, has a beautiful coat, and shiny eyes. He gets what i call the wobbles about once a month.. which really looks like a hypoglycemia episode. However, sugar doesn't correct the problem and it takes him hours to recover. He does have get aggressive towards other dogs on the leash...but then again he isn't fixed. He doesn't do the head pressing, paper eating, frequent urination, pain, bladder stones, and he eats well. Its just hard to imagine this lil guy as a sick baby.

Ladymom · 09-22-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nightnurse

I often wonder if Gus is misdiagnosed . He has more spunk and arrogance than any dog i have ever owned. He plays hard and rough, loves to go on walks, has a beautiful coat, and shiny eyes. He gets what i call the wobbles about once a month.. which really looks like a hypoglycemia episode. However, sugar doesn't correct the problem and it takes him hours to recover. He does have get aggressive towards other dogs on the leash...but then again he isn't fixed. He doesn't do the head pressing, paper eating, frequent urination, pain, bladder stones, and he eats well. Its just hard to imagine this lil guy as a sick baby.

Did Gus have a bile acids test? What were the results?

There are other options besides Care Credit, too:

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...vet-bills.html

nightnurse · 09-22-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Did Gus have a bile acids test? What were the results?

yes elevated bile test after his first case of the wobbles.

Ladymom · 09-22-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nightnurse

yes elevated bile test after his first case of the wobbles.

Do you know what the results were? The actual numbers? Were any other tests done?

nightnurse · 09-22-2010, 05:50 PM

no i don't know what the actual numbers were. He has a appointment Friday for a well visit.... I will find out thou

nightnurse · 09-22-2010, 06:18 PM

Thank you guys for giving me hope when i thought we were doomed for sure. I can't wait to get things moving for Gus.

Ladymom · 09-22-2010, 06:36 PM

I just noticed in your Flea thread that you say you used First Guard three weeks ago. Do you mean First Shield from Banfield? First Shield contains permethrin which can be toxic to some small dogs.

By any chance did you notice his symptoms after you applied it? When did he get his bile acids test?

Lizzie07 · 09-22-2010, 08:07 PM

I really wish you the best with Gus. I know you must be sick with worry that he could have a potentially lethal condition.

I would recommend that if he does have LS and he gets surgery, that you have him neutered at the same time. That way he won't have to have anesthesia twice. LS is a genetic condition and you don't want to take any chances. Plus, it should help with his agression.

Please let us know how he is doing.

nanahas3 · 09-22-2010, 10:45 PM

I hope you are able to get the help this little guy needs

We took in a little girl a few months ago who had gotten lost from her family and even took to the vet for a check up while we tried to find her family. The first night in our home she had the most horrible anguishing siezures

all I could do was hold her and try to comfort her and that was hard even though she barely weighed 2 lbs and was 2 years old. When her owners came I talked to them about what I was almost positive was wrong with their little girl but they said they could not afford the surgery either and so I suggested maybe a rescue or maybe we could even help some but they felt she would be ok, unfortunately the tiny little girl only lived another 2 weeks. Please please do all you can for your little man watching one in the latter stages of this is unbearable.

Lizzie07 · 09-23-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3

I hope you are able to get the help this little guy needs

We took in a little girl a few months ago who had gotten lost from her family and even took to the vet for a check up while we tried to find her family. The first night in our home she had the most horrible anguishing siezures

all I could do was hold her and try to comfort her and that was hard even though she barely weighed 2 lbs and was 2 years old. When her owners came I talked to them about what I was almost positive was wrong with their little girl but they said they could not afford the surgery either and so I suggested maybe a rescue or maybe we could even help some but they felt she would be ok, unfortunately the tiny little girl only lived another 2 weeks. Please please do all you can for your little man watching one in the latter stages of this is unbearable.

That is so tragic. I am sure your heart broke a little for this girl.

megansmomma · 09-23-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nanahas3

I hope you are able to get the help this little guy needs

We took in a little girl a few months ago who had gotten lost from her family and even took to the vet for a check up while we tried to find her family. The first night in our home she had the most horrible anguishing siezures

all I could do was hold her and try to comfort her and that was hard even though she barely weighed 2 lbs and was 2 years old. When her owners came I talked to them about what I was almost positive was wrong with their little girl but they said they could not afford the surgery either and so I suggested maybe a rescue or maybe we could even help some but they felt she would be ok, unfortunately the tiny little girl only lived another 2 weeks. Please please do all you can for your little man watching one in the latter stages of this is unbearable.

What is wrong with people!

Teegy · 09-23-2010, 09:34 AM

After Gus has his little fits, does he not eat for a while. I ask because my vet explained to me, that Teegy's counts were off for liver shunt when the blood work was done pre-neutering.
He told me the reason was because he hadn't eaten in 24 hours as per the vet's instructions and this would go back to normal.
I was just wondering if you ended up with that result due to a long period without food.
It's like us, Ketones appear in a urine test for humans when we starve prior to annual medicals.

nanahas3 · 09-23-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie07

That is so tragic. I am sure your heart broke a little for this girl.

It did break she was such a beautiful sweet little girl I hope I never have to see another little one go through this again. She would lay in the floor and literally spin in circles and let out the most horrible screams please whatever you do, nurse do not make your little guy endure this pain.

morkiecalvin · 09-24-2010, 05:23 AM

My little guy had no symptons at all except that his bile acids were over 240...he didnt start having seizures until a week before his surgery. The only reason we found it was because my vet did a bile acid test when he was supposed to get neutered.

I hope everything goes well for you and Gus. We didnt have the money either but I took it out of my IRA to pay for the surgery. We were also lucky in that the breeder gave us back twice what we paid for him (thats the law in NJ)...

09-22-2010, 04:55 PM	#31
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I am glad you are looking in to all your options. The Care credit is great to have. One of mine had to have LP surgery and since I had applied for it a few years ago for one of my other babies i was already approved. It is allowing me to pay a 2500.00 bill with no interest for 12 months. I hope that works out for you. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

09-22-2010, 06:36 PM	#38
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,317	I just noticed in your Flea thread that you say you used First Guard three weeks ago. Do you mean First Shield from Banfield? First Shield contains permethrin which can be toxic to some small dogs. By any chance did you notice his symptoms after you applied it? When did he get his bile acids test? __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...6213341?ref=nf

09-22-2010, 08:07 PM	#39
Lizzie07 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ball Ground, GA Posts: 1,262	I really wish you the best with Gus. I know you must be sick with worry that he could have a potentially lethal condition. I would recommend that if he does have LS and he gets surgery, that you have him neutered at the same time. That way he won't have to have anesthesia twice. LS is a genetic condition and you don't want to take any chances. Plus, it should help with his agression. Please let us know how he is doing. __________________ Kristan Lizzy's mom

09-22-2010, 10:45 PM	#40
nanahas3 ♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,290	I hope you are able to get the help this little guy needs We took in a little girl a few months ago who had gotten lost from her family and even took to the vet for a check up while we tried to find her family. The first night in our home she had the most horrible anguishing siezures all I could do was hold her and try to comfort her and that was hard even though she barely weighed 2 lbs and was 2 years old. When her owners came I talked to them about what I was almost positive was wrong with their little girl but they said they could not afford the surgery either and so I suggested maybe a rescue or maybe we could even help some but they felt she would be ok, unfortunately the tiny little girl only lived another 2 weeks. Please please do all you can for your little man watching one in the latter stages of this is unbearable. __________________ *CharleneMama to Laddy and Kyra and Always in our hearts Lolita*

09-22-2010, 05:50 PM	#36
nightnurse Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: shawnee Posts: 31	no i don't know what the actual numbers were. He has a appointment Friday for a well visit.... I will find out thou

09-22-2010, 06:18 PM	#37
nightnurse Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: shawnee Posts: 31	Thank you guys for giving me hope when i thought we were doomed for sure. I can't wait to get things moving for Gus.

09-23-2010, 09:34 AM	#43
Teegy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,631	After Gus has his little fits, does he not eat for a while. I ask because my vet explained to me, that Teegy's counts were off for liver shunt when the blood work was done pre-neutering. He told me the reason was because he hadn't eaten in 24 hours as per the vet's instructions and this would go back to normal. I was just wondering if you ended up with that result due to a long period without food. It's like us, Ketones appear in a urine test for humans when we starve prior to annual medicals.

09-24-2010, 05:23 AM	#45
morkiecalvin Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Roseland, NJ Posts: 104	My little guy had no symptons at all except that his bile acids were over 240...he didnt start having seizures until a week before his surgery. The only reason we found it was because my vet did a bile acid test when he was supposed to get neutered. I hope everything goes well for you and Gus. We didnt have the money either but I took it out of my IRA to pay for the surgery. We were also lucky in that the breeder gave us back twice what we paid for him (thats the law in NJ)...