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Mardelin 08-05-2010 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3228172)
My vet does not recommend for young puppies either. I was merely referring to what the website says.
I don't have my dogs on it now, as there isn't a problem here. But, because Delilah will be traveling back to Texas as well as other areas for dog shows. She'll remain on it until 6 months after she is done showing.

YorkieChick1 08-05-2010 08:12 PM
I really hope Max is OK. I feel so bad that the breeder was so unsupportive and cruel. She could have never dealt with this before but she should atleast be supportive and caring until she knows what is wrong with one of her pups. She obviously thought that you were a good enough Mama 5 days ago to have one of her puppies, yet now she thinks you haven't been watching him and he hit his head or something. I think you are handling it better than I would, I'm part Italian and I would've been all over her!! Take care and I hope the result of the test are negative and he gets better soon! Hugs & Licks!

ladyjane 08-05-2010 08:13 PM
Oh yeah...we have a horrible problem with mosquitoes here....and many pups are coming up heartworm positive. It used to be not as common in the yorkies...but this past year or so we have had so many with heartworms.

kpstoybox 08-05-2010 09:16 PM
Just seeing this Karen. I will be praying for your little guy!!

Rhetts_mama 08-05-2010 09:16 PM
My vet started mine on heart worm preventative at 10-14 weeks. It could be a regional thing because the South is mosquito heaven compared to California.

lisaly 08-06-2010 02:53 AM
I've been thinking about you since I first read your post. I really hope you get good news today and that your baby is better very soon.

Mom2TwoYorkies 08-06-2010 03:22 AM
Thinking of you this morning . . .I hope your night was restful . . .Hoping for good news today . . .

chachi 08-06-2010 03:47 AM
I doubt the breeder is just now finding out something is wrong with him Im sure he exhibited symptoms with her and she knowingly sold you a sick pup

BonBon 08-06-2010 04:01 AM
I'm just checking in, Karen. I hope you're feeling better and got some rest last night. Give Cooper and Max huggins for me.

AllDogBoots 08-06-2010 04:35 AM
Thanks everyone. I call at 9am for results.

musiccitymom 08-06-2010 04:37 AM
Hope you receive good news today Karen. This must be incredibly difficult.

kjc 08-06-2010 04:48 AM
Praying for good answers! Hugs.

kjc 08-06-2010 04:49 AM
Found it: or part anyway... file wouldn't open...

Copied & Pasted from the link above. Written by Dr. Center:
Additional Information;
*It is no longer recommended to fast a dog for 12 hours before first collection or meal. The same size and type of meal that the dog normally eats is what should be used for the meal.
*Test puppies at 16 weeks and again at 6 months. Dogs > 4 years of age can have other liver problems that will affect the Bile Acid test.
*If the dog is stuffed or if the dog is frightened the test result can possibly be skewed.
*The draw can be done one day pre feeding, then the dog can be taken home and fed and another draw done 2 hours post-feeding. It is not imperative it be done the same day.
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mojo 08-06-2010 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3228320)
I doubt the breeder is just now finding out something is wrong with him Im sure he exhibited symptoms with her and she knowingly sold you a sick pup
EXACTLY what I thought. The way she is acting about this whole thing, unwilling to help you or even find out if this is congenital, I had that very same thought.

I am so sorry you are going through this, it must be so horrible. My thoughts and prayers are with you today and hoping for a good outcome.

Darlene68 08-06-2010 04:49 AM
Thinking of you Karen and keeping you and Max in my thoughts, I pray for good news.

JeanieK 08-06-2010 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieChick1 (Post 3228198)
I really hope Max is OK. I feel so bad that the breeder was so unsupportive and cruel. She could have never dealt with this before but she should atleast be supportive and caring until she knows what is wrong with one of her pups. She obviously thought that you were a good enough Mama 5 days ago to have one of her puppies, yet now she thinks you haven't been watching him and he hit his head or something. I think you are handling it better than I would, I'm part Italian and I would've been all over her!! Take care and I hope the result of the test are negative and he gets better soon! Hugs & Licks!
A puppy can hit hit's head no matter how closely you watch them. Just like a baby can fall and hit it's head. I sat right in my kitchen and watched one of mine run into a table leg the other day. She was OK but it could have been fatal.

I'm guessing the breeder was shocked at being told that the puppy had LS. Perhaps she did not handle it very well, but that does not make her a bad person.

We are only getting one side of the conversation here.

Let's just give everyone the benefit of the doubt until we have all of the facts.

Personally I'm confused at the vet being so sure that it is not the Sentinel. It very well could be.. Just because he has not seen a reaction before, does not meant that it can't happen. It's poison, and it's given doses that is also given to a dog 5 times the size of the puppy.

JeanieK 08-06-2010 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3228320)
I doubt the breeder is just now finding out something is wrong with him Im sure he exhibited symptoms with her and she knowingly sold you a sick pup
You don't know that. That's a terrible thing to say without knowing the diagnosis. The OP had the dog a couple of days before he started with the symptoms.

I can believe how quick so many of you are to lynch the breeder without a diagnosis.

musiccitymom 08-06-2010 05:14 AM
This is not a situation to just "assume" anything. It isn't nice to bash someone's character with no facts.

AllDogBoots 08-06-2010 05:17 AM
Please be respectful to me and not argue in my thread. Nobody is bashing anyone. I never TOLD the breeder he has LS. I gave her the symptoms and she said it's not LS. We will hopefully work together. There is no blame anywhere. I haven't even mentioned who the breeder is. My puppy is sick and I would appreciate support ONLY.

MyBabyFynnlie 08-06-2010 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3228399)
You don't know that. That's a terrible thing to say without knowing the diagnosis. The OP had the dog a couple of days before he started with the symptoms.

I can believe how quick so many of you are to lynch the breeder without a diagnosis.
No one is lynching the breeder and no one has told the breeder that the dog has LS - they've just said that it is a possibility. All people are trying to say is that they can't believe that a breeder would react this way. Telling a new mom to put her puppy down? Offering no help or support? If this were my breeder, I would be more upset about her behavoir than if she sold me a sick puppy.

This thread was supposed to be to help Karen and support her while she tends to Max. Let's not try to turn it into 'who gets to throw the first stone?' deal.

Karen, you and Max have been on my mind since I started reading this thread and I sincerely hope that there is nothing seriously wrong with him. It'd be awesome if it was just a reaction to something simple. Let's hope that it's something like Mardelin's puppy and it's just a reaction to a medication. He's still a baby and he's had so many changes in such a short amount of time.

Good luck today, I am really hoping for a good report.

musiccitymom 08-06-2010 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3228414)
Please be respectful to me and not argue in my thread. Nobody is bashing anyone. I never TOLD the breeder he has LS. I gave her the symptoms and she said it's not LS. We will hopefully work together. There is no blame anywhere. I haven't even mentioned who the breeder is. My puppy is sick and I would appreciate support ONLY.
I am so sorry if you felt that was directed at you. It was definitely not! You have your hands full and I am very sympathetic to your situation. Please accept my apology.

AllDogBoots 08-06-2010 05:24 AM
it was a general statement.

megansmomma 08-06-2010 05:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AllDogBoots (Post 3228414)
Please be respectful to me and not argue in my thread. Nobody is bashing anyone. I never TOLD the breeder he has LS. I gave her the symptoms and she said it's not LS. We will hopefully work together. There is no blame anywhere. I haven't even mentioned who the breeder is. My puppy is sick and I would appreciate support ONLY.
Just checking in on how you are doing this morning and hoping for good news. No matter what the vet tells you today you can be sure that your friends on YT will all be there for you and Max. Hang in there it's only a few hours and you will hopefully know a few answers to what has been going on with Max. :hug:

* My suggestion at this point is to use the ignore button. :) It is not appropriate to argue and we should all be showing you love and support. :(

Rachael x 08-06-2010 05:36 AM
OMG Im so sorry to hear that! sending prayers!

JeanieK 08-06-2010 05:39 AM
Just for the record. I do not feel it is the OP who is bashing the breeder. it is a few of the respondents. And until the facts are in no one should be pointing a finger at anyone.

The comment about PTS could have been taken out of context, we don't have the entire conversation.

I know when you are upset, you want to find someone to blame, but it's best to wait until the diagnosis is made and the people are dealing with facts and not just suppositions.

Ladymom 08-06-2010 06:27 AM
Just checking in to see how you and Max are doing today. :big_hug:

I agree with Megansmomma. Use the Ignore button. ;)

MyMolly 08-06-2010 07:01 AM
checking in to see if you got the results...said extra prayers for you & Max!! :love:

chachi 08-06-2010 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 3228442)
Just for the record. I do not feel it is the OP who is bashing the breeder. it is a few of the respondents. And until the facts are in no one should be pointing a finger at anyone.

The comment about PTS could have been taken out of context, we don't have the entire conversation.

I know when you are upset, you want to find someone to blame, but it's best to wait until the diagnosis is made and the people are dealing with facts and not just suppositions.
I did not say the breeder knew the pup had liver shunt. I said it is unlikely that he wasnt showing symptoms when he was with her also and that is a fact

Rhetts_mama 08-06-2010 07:05 AM
Good morning Karen. How are you and Max today? Have you heard from the vet this morning.

Britster 08-06-2010 07:09 AM
Checking in on you and precious Max this morning.


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