Need help in caring for Diamond

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

The biopsies on him were $49 but that does not include sedation and they sent the samples away for the histocytology which was $90.

yeah doing a loan for a animal pathologist this week and she works for Covance: the CRO for Drug Development Services so was asking about pathology reports. She has a phd in pathology. Smart girl

what type of sedation do they do?

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Patti

My Pom had Cushing's and it was pretty expensive to diagnose. She had lost a lot of her fur but not that much. It did come back with treatment. I hope they can figure out what is going on with her.

good to know it runs in the pom breed thanks so much for posting this

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

good to know it runs in the pom breed thanks so much for posting this

As I said earlier, there is no way you can diagnose by using the "common in certain breeds" measure.
While some things may be common in certain breeds, it does not mean it is exclusive to them.
Just because a pom has cushings does not mean it "runs in the pom breed".

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by dwerten

dr dodds said tsh is a waste it is only 70% accurate in dogs and 95% accurate in humans. It is more expensive as well as i asked about it when she ran the 6 panel thyroid. The first time to diagnose they run all 6 panels but no TSH. Once they know the dog has hypot no need to keep running all 6 - I will check dd blood work but it is not all 6 after that as i questioned that.

The 6 panel is T4FREE, T4, T3FREE, T3, T4AA, T3AA - this should be done through michigan state lab or dr dodds but antech or idexx i believe can do it as well. The T4free should be 1.0 for yorkies per jean. Dee Dee was .38 on T4FREE when jean rant test. She was .78 the year prior so she dropped alot in one year. So she should have been on meds the year prior when vet only ran t4free and may have not lost all that hair.

Is wylie the one with allergies on atopica? If so hypoT and allergies go hand in hand - poor immune systems STINKS - I think it is a sebaceous gland excretion that causes the odor

HypoT dogs run hot and have a stinky musky smell as the thyroid is the bodies thermometer i believe

Marcel is the one on Atopica. But, now that Wylie's cortisol is managed - he's having some breakthrough pollen allergies too - luckily, Claritin is doing nicely. His Thyroid is WNL right now (@ .10 BID)...but it's interesting you mention "hot" bc before I started the Claritin, his body was just hothothot and almost felt damp sometimes. His thyr levels were perfect, but I think the allergic response was realllly irritating him, poor guy .

[Nikis2]

Hi guys I have been trying to go through all the great posts and figure out where I should start. She does have a pot belly but she does not walk that much due to her hips not being right. I wish I had all the info from the vet. But it makes me sick why this vet allowed this dog to leave that office without being spayed. So, when I call my vet I will ask her about getting the 6 panel work up and some of these other tests. I will only have her here with me for about 2 weeks so I was hoping to be able to help her as much as I can while she is here and when her parents come back talk to them and see exactly what all has been done at her vet and the diagnoses and what they are willing to do in the future to help Diamond.

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by Nikis2

Hi guys I have been trying to go through all the great posts and figure out where I should start. She does have a pot belly but she does not walk that much due to her hips not being right. I wish I had all the info from the vet. But it makes me sick why this vet allowed this dog to leave that office without being spayed. So, when I call my vet I will ask her about getting the 6 panel work up and some of these other tests. I will only have her here with me for about 2 weeks so I was hoping to be able to help her as much as I can while she is here and when her parents come back talk to them and see exactly what all has been done at her vet and the diagnoses and what they are willing to do in the future to help Diamond.

Was Diamond's hips or pelvis ever treated or does she not "walk much" as a result of non-treatment? I would think that has to be very painful.

Also, if your friend's Vet doesn't see the need to spay & neuter either of your friends dogs, why doesn't she find a NEW vet? I don't get it...

oops...just saw in the OP that she did have surgery for her hips...

[Nikis2]

you no what I don't get it either. I would never in a million years allow one of my animals to go through what this poor dog has. It is obvious to me that they aren't willing to spend any more money on the situation either. That is why I cam on here to see if anyone knew of anything I could personally do to help Diamond while she was in my care.

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by Nikis2

She seems to have a good appetite and has mainly stayed to herself since she came in late Sunday night. She is in heat with this male here so it has been difficult to just monitor her. Coupled with the fact that I am at my busy time of year with 3 litters of yorkie babies in. The poor dog does not know me or my home and animals and you know new Mommies are none to thrilled with strangers around so this has all been a bit overwhelming for us all. But, I now have her in the living room with me alone so I can monitor her. She does not seem to pee a lot and she is very protective over her food but is not consuming a whole lot of food. I have placed her food and water bowl close to her and I am not seeing her drink an abundance amount of water either. I am going to call my vet and see if she can do the blood work up. I am sure it hasn't been done in ages anyway, you are right let us start there.

OMG...please say you don't have any un-neutered Yorkies that could have access to Diamond, too. I really am having a hard time with this whole thing...why on God's earth is Diamond not spayed but, for pete's sake at least neuter the male Pom...sheesh!

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by Nikis2

you no what I don't get it either. I would never in a million years allow one of my animals to go through what this poor dog has. It is obvious to me that they aren't willing to spend any more money on the situation either. That is why I cam on here to see if anyone knew of anything I could personally do to help Diamond while she was in my care.

Here's the best offer you could make to your friend...assist her in finding a breed specific rescue who will take care of Diamond the way she "deserves" to be treated!

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Nikis2

you no what I don't get it either. I would never in a million years allow one of my animals to go through what this poor dog has. It is obvious to me that they aren't willing to spend any more money on the situation either. That is why I cam on here to see if anyone knew of anything I could personally do to help Diamond while she was in my care.

it is great you are doing this for her you are so sweet and caring. I hope it is just Alopecia X as that would be the easiest for this owner to care for. HypoT is cheap and easy too. I think i get 100 pills for $20 and she gets a 1/3 of a pill twice daily so they last forever.

I think if alopecia X the spaying of her may help

Ann does anything show up on a regular blood panel to indicate cushings? I know when dd was on prednisone they wrote on pred on the blood work and some numbers were off but it was a while ago.

sounds like blood work, thyroid panel add on, urine test for cushings, spaying are best place to start for this little one to get her better.

Don't vets know that if a father is bigger than mother that mother should not have those pups? Isn't that dangerous and shouldn't a vet advise against this? I do not know anything about breeding as all of mine are spay and neutered but just curious as this is upsetting to me that this girl shattered her pelvis for no reason makes me sad

[Juliealfies mum]

What a little sweetie she is , I have heard great things about this product as some of my friends have used it with their dogs with skin allergies, I am not saying that's what Diamond has but have a look at this product and see if you think it could help her in any way.Amazing Natural Cream for itchy skin on dogs

[miabellaamoure]

I also want to make sure you know I think you could be the vehicle to getting Diamond the care she needs...didn't want to come off like I was slamming you.

I just thought it irresponsible of your friend to place Diamond who's in heat with the male in your care all the while you have your own breeding life going on there, too.

You've certainly got your hands full and thank you for taking the time to try and get Diamond on the right track!

[Nikis2]

As I said earlier Diamond is 8 yrs old this is my 2nd time ever seeing the dog. I live hours away from where they live so we obviously are not that close of friends. They feel like Diamond did get the proper care and they feed her all the special food their vet told them to she cooks for her. She has drawers of outfits the dog wheres everyday. She puts skin so soft on her everyday. They were under the the assumption as I was when I first posted this that it was from the surgery and medicine. Their vet led them to believe he did everything he could for this dog. This happened years ago and she has been this way since. I can not answer why people do not spay and neuter their pets or why everyone and their Mother thinks because they have a female dog they can breed it and everything will be fine. They always tell me it is too expensive to spay and neutered their pets anymore in the vets so a lot of people now a day just don't do it. I have to deal with the matter I am dealing with at the moment. Judging people does not help Diamond either educating does. I have their un neutered male here too and I am certainly not crazy enough to allow anything horrible to happen to this baby in my home.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Nikis2

Hi guys I have been trying to go through all the great posts and figure out where I should start. She does have a pot belly but she does not walk that much due to her hips not being right. I wish I had all the info from the vet. But it makes me sick why this vet allowed this dog to leave that office without being spayed. So, when I call my vet I will ask her about getting the 6 panel work up and some of these other tests. I will only have her here with me for about 2 weeks so I was hoping to be able to help her as much as I can while she is here and when her parents come back talk to them and see exactly what all has been done at her vet and the diagnoses and what they are willing to do in the future to help Diamond.

Don't blame the vet for her not being spayed. A vet cannot spay a dog without permission from the owner.

I find it very depressing that your friend has left this dog intact and around intact males after all she went through. It is her responsibility to care properly for her dog....not her vets.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Here's the best offer you could make to your friend...assist her in finding a breed specific rescue who will take care of Diamond the way she "deserves" to be treated!

The best thing you could do is to tell your friend that if she is not willing to spend the money to properly care for Diamond, then she should surrender her to a reputable rescue that will care for all of her needs.