RIMADYL side effect = death!?!?!

[ladyjane]

Rimadyl is certainly not one of my favorite meds to use. There are others that I feel can do the trick...so why risk it? That being said, they are given by a lot of vets without any ill effects in dogs.

I would never give steroids over NSAIDS!!!

The side effects of NSAIDS are usually due to not being given correctly and from long term use.

Steroids have issues no matter how you give them! And, those issues are not something that food can prevent.

Just my thoughts.....

[dwerten]

another thing you can look into for pain which is natural but i have not used it is ARNICA - google it and if you use a holistic vet this is what they would prescribe so check it out

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/arnica-000222.htm

[BonBon]

Rimadyl makes me very nervous. Here's a thread I started on it a while back. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...l-warning.html

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

rimadyl and metacam is the same thing they just came out with metacam as rimadyl was having alot of bad press about it and i believe it was taken off the market for humans and put on the market for dogs. They then came out with metacam to compete against it as well so per jean dodds exact same type of drug with same side effects

I do not believe that they are the same medications. They act the same way in that they inhibit prostaglandin synthesis and that helps with inflammation.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I do not believe that they are the same medications. They act the same way in that they inhibit prostaglandin synthesis and that helps with inflammation.

both are NSAIDS sorry do not like nsaids in dealing with many specialists they feel the same so will never advocate these drugs ever

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by bonbon

Rimadyl makes me very nervous. Here's a thread I started on it a while back. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...l-warning.html

yep and a maltese on our maltese group went into renal failure on metacam after only 7 days on them sorry these drugs are NOT safe

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

both are NSAIDS sorry do not like nsaids in dealing with many specialists they feel the same so will never advocate these drugs ever

I know how you feel about them. I am just saying that steroids are MUCH more dangerous! I have also dealt with many specialists and I don't know one who would prescribe an steroid over an NSAID!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

rimadyl and metacam is the same thing they just came out with metacam as rimadyl was having alot of bad press about it and i believe it was taken off the market for humans and put on the market for dogs. They then came out with metacam to compete against it as well so per jean dodds exact same type of drug with same side effects

I read that as you thought they were the same medication. Yes, they are in the same family.

[dwerten]

my dog has been on steroids for 2 years with perfect blood work so having seen on one dose what an nsaid can do definitely would do steroids over nsaid - steroids have their own set of problems

if a dog has a neurological problem you are going to use steroids over nsaid in those situations for inflammation

If a dog has a sprain or mild injury tramadol takes away the pain so that should be sufficient if you want the dog to not feel any pain.

I am just wondering though in regards to the neck - did they do xrays to make sure it was just a sprain as there are some issues in this breed in regards to the neck so that is a concern as to what is going on for me not just the meds ?

[ladyjane]

It was already shown that one dose did not do it. I honestly do not think that you will find any real documentation that one dose of an NSAID would do the kind of harm you tout. If it was that dangerous, it would not be used.

Every dog is different...every case is different. When my vet prescribes something I ask questions about why...and if there is something better. We all need to be our pups' advocates. We cannot cookie cutter every diagnosis and medication.

[Cha Cha]

This is all very interesting. I had a special needs dog that was on Rimadyl on and off long term for 10 years with no issues. She was not a Yorkie. She didn't seem to have any problems with it. Now, I have Mylee and when she had her xrays done and diagnosed with hip dysplasia, my vet mentioned that she may have to go on Rimadyl long term for pain and inflamation. He did say they would do blood work before starting this medication, however. Now I don't know what to think either......guess I will be talking further with him if it gets to that point.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

I know how you feel about them. I am just saying that steroids are MUCH more dangerous! I have also dealt with many specialists and I don't know one who would prescribe an steroid over an NSAID!

for inflammation a neurologist would but yes in most cases no like orthopedic etc but even the orthopedic told me nsaids are not safe and he prefers tramadol over nsaid so having a dentist, internal medicine, orthopedic, and jean dodds no way I feel very strongly on this topic and if someone does use them if the dog vomits or has diarrhea STOP IMMEDIATELY and when i called with reaction the company gave me NO INFO just said wow you better have her liveR and kidneys checked - GREAT THANKS FOR THE HELP

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

for inflammation a neurologist would but yes in most cases no like orthopedic etc but even the orthopedic told me nsaids are not safe and he prefers tramadol over nsaid so having a dentist, internal medicine, orthopedic, and jean dodds no way I feel very strongly on this topic and if someone does use them if the dog vomits or has diarrhea STOP IMMEDIATELY and when i called with reaction the company gave me NO INFO just said wow you better have her liveR and kidneys checked - GREAT THANKS FOR THE HELP

Tramadol is for pain,...is not an anti-inflammatory.

Again, I think people need to consult with their vets about what is best for their pups...ask questions about the side effects...and the risk vs the benefit.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Cha Cha

This is all very interesting. I had a special needs dog that was on Rimadyl on and off long term for 10 years with no issues. She was not a Yorkie. She didn't seem to have any problems with it. Now, I have Mylee and when she had her xrays done and diagnosed with hip dysplasia, my vet mentioned that she may have to go on Rimadyl long term for pain and inflamation. He did say they would do blood work before starting this medication, however. Now I don't know what to think either......guess I will be talking further with him if it gets to that point.

Yeah labs have issues with it too as my friend's son's baseball coach had a lab that was on it for a short time and died of renal failure with labs and rimadyl is not good at all

the reason this breed has more issues with it is they already have ibd issues and this drug affects the intestines so dogs with ibd or intestinal issues should also NEVER take this drug per out vet.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by dwerten

for inflammation a neurologist would but yes in most cases no like orthopedic etc but even the orthopedic told me nsaids are not safe and he prefers tramadol over nsaid so having a dentist, internal medicine, orthopedic, and jean dodds no way I feel very strongly on this topic and if someone does use them if the dog vomits or has diarrhea STOP IMMEDIATELY and when i called with reaction the company gave me NO INFO just said wow you better have her liveR and kidneys checked - GREAT THANKS FOR THE HELP

I believe that was appropriate...first place to go is the vet!