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dwerten 02-18-2010 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tae1107 (Post 3008153)
Yes,the most important thing is his pnemonia..as if he does not get over that it does not matter about whether he has CT or LS/MVD.

He was at 50% oxygen in the tank..they moved him to %40 to see how he would do..so far he seems to be doing fine with it. He is still coughing but they want him to cough to help break up his lungs...

His blood work was off which is to be expected with a pup who came in so sick. His ALT was actually in the normal range... they were concerned about his ALB level and Cholestral level which can also indicate a liver issue... and him being so small is also a "sign"...

He is showing no HE symptoms so as I told the vets I am not overly concerned right now...as his blood would be off because of how sick he is..

I had my own vet look at all the blood work for a second opinion as I am not a vet even though I read blood work all the time I always go to my vet for any advice... especially when I am working with an ER.... she was not overly concerned with anything.. but wants to re-test him once he is better to see what we are dealing with then...

Please keep him in your prayers that the pnemominia clears up and he can reduce the amount of oxygen he needs to breath..
ALB and Chol are more protein losing if low so i would not be too concerned about liver either as if his liver was real bad his ALT would be off as my dd had normal alt but bats were elevated so only MVD - alb and chol are probably off as protein is low in body as he is so sick and probably not eating a whole lot unless they were high is that the case or low?

hope the little guy recovers real soon - do you think maybe he got kennel cough which lead to pneumonia thus triggering the tracheal cough sounds to me this might have been the case since he is so young maybe came to person with kennel cough and they gave him up as vet bills were high once led to pneumonia - sounds like that is the real story :( and 6 mos is when they get the vaccines so maybe he even got kennel cough from vaccine :(

Tae1107 02-18-2010 10:13 AM
He is loosing some protein...but we have not looked more into that right now.

We are assuming he had bad kennel cough,as he was tested for lung worms and it came back negative.

His trachea is deformed in the chest area....as you move down the neck...it decreases in size and is pushed upwards....we are hoping that once the lungs are cleared and he has gained some muscle mass it will not look as bad as it looks now...

I have a dog with MVD too.......

ladyjane 02-18-2010 10:58 AM
Yep, he could have a whole myriad of things from LP to renal or liver issues....if he cannot breathe, none of it will matter. Sounds like he is in great hands....with you and the vet...of course I already know that you are good. We go back a long way. :D

He is in my prayers.

dwerten 02-18-2010 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tae1107 (Post 3008189)
He is loosing some protein...but we have not looked more into that right now.

We are assuming he had bad kennel cough,as he was tested for lung worms and it came back negative.

His trachea is deformed in the chest area....as you move down the neck...it decreases in size and is pushed upwards....we are hoping that once the lungs are cleared and he has gained some muscle mass it will not look as bad as it looks now...

I have a dog with MVD too.......
yeah sounds like kennel cough triggered this whole thing so hopefully once pneumonia is fixed the ct will not be as bad and blood work will balance out - poor little guy what a rough start for him :(

czgirl71 02-18-2010 05:04 PM
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Hi everyone. I am new to the site and in desperate need of some reassurance. My 10 year old Yorkie, Izzie, was diagnosed yesterday with a collasped trachea. My Izzie only weighs 1lb. 14 oz. Obviously surgery is not an option. She is not responding well to the meds and I know I have to put her down. Y'all seem to have some experience with CT........she is my 4th Yorkie and I haven't had any previous problems. I had her brother (3.5 lbs) and he died last year of congenial heart disease but her heart and lungs are fine. I am devastated. She is on antibiotics, cough suppressant and Temeril-P. My vet said there was another med for this but it only comes in 100mg and he could not calculate the dosage for a dog her size. Any advice is appreciated.

dwerten 02-18-2010 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by czgirl71 (Post 3008667)
Hi everyone. I am new to the site and in desperate need of some reassurance. My 10 year old Yorkie, Izzie, was diagnosed yesterday with a collasped trachea. My Izzie only weighs 1lb. 14 oz. Obviously surgery is not an option. She is not responding well to the meds and I know I have to put her down. Y'all seem to have some experience with CT........she is my 4th Yorkie and I haven't had any previous problems. I had her brother (3.5 lbs) and he died last year of congenial heart disease but her heart and lungs are fine. I am devastated. She is on antibiotics, cough suppressant and Temeril-P. My vet said there was another med for this but it only comes in 100mg and he could not calculate the dosage for a dog her size. Any advice is appreciated.
please join this group and there are compounding pharmacies to dose down the other drug for her and they ship i am sure if none locally

CollapsingTrachea : YTNR_COLLAPSING TRACHEA

don't give up yet and i believe they posted the drug below - i am not that familiar with it just have a friend with a dog that has it :( so hopefully others can help and that group is a good one for help but i would not do the surgery though

was there anything that triggered it like anesthesia or anything ?

ladyjane 02-18-2010 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by czgirl71 (Post 3008667)
Hi everyone. I am new to the site and in desperate need of some reassurance. My 10 year old Yorkie, Izzie, was diagnosed yesterday with a collasped trachea. My Izzie only weighs 1lb. 14 oz. Obviously surgery is not an option. She is not responding well to the meds and I know I have to put her down. Y'all seem to have some experience with CT........she is my 4th Yorkie and I haven't had any previous problems. I had her brother (3.5 lbs) and he died last year of congenial heart disease but her heart and lungs are fine. I am devastated. She is on antibiotics, cough suppressant and Temeril-P. My vet said there was another med for this but it only comes in 100mg and he could not calculate the dosage for a dog her size. Any advice is appreciated.

Tell your vet to read his Vet Therapy book about CT! There are different medication options there that you have not mentioned. One is the use of Lomotil. I have personally had a pup on it and it did help. I also know of two other yorkies who responded well on it.
Main things to do: keep him as calm as you can and keep him out of humidity.
Alternating cough meds helped with my recent CT boy. We used Torb alternated with Hycodan. Also on bad nights, I had injectable Torb combined with Ace Pro and it really worked! It makes them loopy, but is enough to get that inflammation down so that they can relax and breathe better.
Good luck. Honestly, my experience is that in the end it will get them...the heart can only take so much; but you can buy some quality time for them with good medical management.

Tae1107 02-19-2010 05:24 PM
Cupid continues to do well..still coughing but the vets are saying it could take 4-6 months for his lungs to fully clear...of course he will be home before then.

They reduced the amount of oxygen again...so he is almost breathing on his own....if this keeps up he will be home soon....of course he will still need to recover...but it will be nice to get him to my house.

I am so sorry to hear about Izzie..I also lost a pup to a heart problem that was due in part to CT. Please consult with your vet about other medications or go for a second opinion...my Peppy also responded well to medications. Once in awhile he also needed a heavier medication to sleep when his "coughing" was very bad but it helped dramatically.

ladyjane 02-19-2010 06:55 PM
Oh, I am so happy to hear Cupid is doing better!! Hope he is in your home very soon!!! :)

Tae1107 02-21-2010 05:50 PM
He is HOME!!!! yeah...still coughing but happy he is home.

ladyjane 02-21-2010 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tae1107 (Post 3012339)
He is HOME!!!! yeah...still coughing but happy he is home.

yippee!!:)

BonBon 02-22-2010 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tae1107 (Post 3012339)
He is HOME!!!! yeah...still coughing but happy he is home.
That's wonderful!!! :D

dwerten 02-22-2010 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tae1107 (Post 3012339)
He is HOME!!!! yeah...still coughing but happy he is home.
so happy he is home

yorkielady06 02-22-2010 05:19 PM
So glad he is home...how is he today?

EXOTICYORKIES 02-22-2010 05:26 PM
Sending prayers for this baby


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