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Ladymom · 11-13-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sferrini

Oh, she was only probed once and when they did that her anal sacs, that were filled cleaned out. But yes, I am wondering why they can't just tell me why all of sudden this is happening. She seemed to be doing better last night and this morning I gave her homemade chicken with pumpkin and some green beans and she swelled up AGAIN. I am waiting for them to call me back. I have been giving her the myicol every hour as suggested and as I said it seemed to be working but now this morning.

this is breaking my heart. I just want her to be back to normal like she was last week before all this started.

thank you

This sounds like more than simple constipation or a food allergy to me, although green beans and other veggies can be hard for them to digest. Dogs don't have the necessary enzyme to break down vegetables like we do.

I would think it might be time for an abdominal ultrasound.

RachelandSadie · 11-13-2009, 08:23 AM

i would demand some answers or go to a different vet if it were me...this keeps happening and one of these times it wont' be so easy for her to get better.

sferrini · 11-15-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

This sounds like more than simple constipation or a food allergy to me, although green beans and other veggies can be hard for them to digest. Dogs don't have the necessary enzyme to break down vegetables like we do.

I would think it might be time for an abdominal ultrasound.

They did an ultrasound when I took her on Tuesday, they found nothing but poop in her system. I had them recheck on Friday and the vet had seen nothing. No blockage, everything looked great.

sferrini · 11-15-2009, 04:47 AM

As directed by our vet we have been giving Miracle her mylicon every hour and FINALLY Friday afternoon she had a HUGE poop!!!

We also started her on an elmination diet to find out what she is actually allergic to. I am feeding her chicken, pumpkin and/or sweet potato and green beans 1/3 cup per day. She can have chicken and carrots for treats and so far it is working. Her belly is soft, she pooped fine today and she is not itching.

We have been doing this since Friday and so far so good. She is sleeping normally, she is being sassy, waking me up at 6:00 am and following me around everywhere I go. Things seem back to normal. I am still giving her the mylicon but doing this every 3 to 4 hours until I talk to the vet tomorrow.

Thank you all so much for advice and suggestions, they have been a great help.

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 04:48 AM

NO CHICKEN this could be your problem. This could be inflammatory bowel disease if the bowels get inflamed then it can induce vomitting or diarhea but also can possibly produce constipation. The pumpkin should be helping. Have you tried using coconut oil as a dietary supplement as this may help move things through as well - start with a 1/8 of a teaspoon daily for a week then move up to 1/4 tsp right after eating in morning. I will read this whole thread to see what i can find. Another thing that will definitely move things is brown rice as it is a high source of fiber but can trigger colitis so it could do the opposite affect but it will definitely move things so cook up some brown steamed rice -- i bought the organic brown rice at whole foods in the freezer section - I will read this thread and see what if i can help further

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 04:50 AM

ok well if this is working stick to it but if you are still having to supplement with mylicon then something may still not be running right but you will not know until you start cutting back on that. What about lactulose as that makes dogs go as well just curious if they ever mentioned that

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 04:51 AM

also with a dog with constipation i would feed a wet food not dry as it is easier to digest

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

This sounds very awful to deal with. I hope she gets better and is able to eat without bloating up soon.

Not to sound rude at all, but is your vet really doing anything to help her other than continually probing her to poop? I mean I don't know much about dogs and their digestive systems, but constantly probing and cleaning the anal sacs sounds like it's doing more harm than good. and why can't the vet figure out what's causing her to bloat up to begin with, shouldn't he be smart enough to know what to feed her and what's actually causing the bloat instead of letting you come in every day for manual poop probing?? maybe i'm not reading this right or something... but personally i'd see a new vet that could fix this problem and not just keep forcing her to poop over and over.

also i feed a home made diet that was formulated by my aunt's mom whose hobby is dog nutrition...maybe you could see a nutritionist and have them formulate a diet just for your dog without the allergens and that would be balanced and healthy. it might not always be the turkey, (probably is) but it could be something else in the kibble that's making her sick.

if you want my Raw recipe i'll gladly share it, but it looks like your dog is allergic to some of the ingredients so i don't think it will help..

good luck on all this..hope you find out what to feed and stop her bloating soon and hope she feels better real soon

I agree with this here and sadly vets do not know alot about nutrition

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 04:58 AM

No turkey No poultry as sounds like poultry could be your trigger - I have read turkey is not good for dogs either and may be making her gassy. I would recommend feeding her canned natural balance venison and sweet potato or Fish and sweet potato - NO WHITE POTATO as it is inflammatory - NO inflammatory foods so google inflammatory foods. Go VERY BASIC. Just feed her the canned food and NO TREATS right now you need to get back to basics --Here is the deal with pumpkin it is used for constipation and for diarhea so too much can do the reverese affect so you have to be cautious of that - I gave too much along with brown rice and my girl had diarhea so the brown rice went through her whole along with having orange pudding poops.

sferrini · 11-15-2009, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten

ok well if this is working stick to it but if you are still having to supplement with mylicon then something may still not be running right but you will not know until you start cutting back on that. What about lactulose as that makes dogs go as well just curious if they ever mentioned that

Um, nope had not heard of that. I have cut back, the vet was having me give her the mylicon every hour but not to exceed 12 doses. I started cutting back on it yesterday, she only received about 5 doses.

She pooped again this morning and it looks normal.

sferrini · 11-15-2009, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten

also with a dog with constipation i would feed a wet food not dry as it is easier to digest

I am feeding her home cooked food due to her allergies, but for the record I couldn't get her to eat dry food to save my life. Her previous owners fed her Ceasar's so wet is all I could get her to eat.

sferrini · 11-15-2009, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten

I agree with this here and sadly vets do not know alot about nutrition

Nope I know but the good this is that both of the vets, her regular one and the one I took her to Tuesday because hers was not in both reccommended a nurtritionist, to make sure once we have her allergies and diet straight to make sure she is getting everything we need. She suggested talking to one that is located at Angel Memorial Hospital located out of Boston, which I am familiar with.

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 05:06 AM

here is some info on turkey and why the day after thanksgiving is a bad day for pancreatitis. It is mainly due to dark meat and skin being fatty.

Dog Park Etiquette Blog Archive Is Turkey bad for dogs?

But the internal medicine specialist did tell me many dogs with ibd cannot handle poultry

sferrini · 11-15-2009, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dwerten

No turkey No poultry as sounds like poultry could be your trigger - I have read turkey is not good for dogs either and may be making her gassy. I would recommend feeding her canned natural balance venison and sweet potato or Fish and sweet potato - NO WHITE POTATO as it is inflammatory - NO inflammatory foods so google inflammatory foods. Go VERY BASIC. Just feed her the canned food and NO TREATS right now you need to get back to basics --Here is the deal with pumpkin it is used for constipation and for diarhea so too much can do the reverese affect so you have to be cautious of that - I gave too much along with brown rice and my girl had diarhea so the brown rice went through her whole along with having orange pudding poops.

I was feeding her Natural Balance Duck and Potato until we found out that she is allergic to potato. The problem with the other ones that you suggested is that they contain potato protein so she can't have them. Believe me I have done my research.:-).

I am cutting back on the pumpkin, because, yes, I have read about the diarrhea so I am giving more sweet potato. She is also allergic to rice and this I know not by an allergy test but when I was feeding her the Blue Buffalo she would start itching almost immediately.

The chicken seems to be working fine and when I first brought her into my home she was eating ceasars chicken/beef stuff.

I just want to feed her a better source of food than that.

dwerten · 11-15-2009, 05:11 AM

The Veterinary Use of Lactulose (Enulose, Cephulac) in Pets

lactulose is for constipation and mylicon is for gas so not sure why they have not mentioned lactulose as a possible thing to help???

11-15-2009, 04:47 AM	#34
sferrini YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sterling Heights, Mi Posts: 318	Finally!! As directed by our vet we have been giving Miracle her mylicon every hour and FINALLY Friday afternoon she had a HUGE poop!!! We also started her on an elmination diet to find out what she is actually allergic to. I am feeding her chicken, pumpkin and/or sweet potato and green beans 1/3 cup per day. She can have chicken and carrots for treats and so far it is working. Her belly is soft, she pooped fine today and she is not itching. We have been doing this since Friday and so far so good. She is sleeping normally, she is being sassy, waking me up at 6:00 am and following me around everywhere I go. Things seem back to normal. I am still giving her the mylicon but doing this every 3 to 4 hours until I talk to the vet tomorrow. Thank you all so much for advice and suggestions, they have been a great help. __________________ Shannon , Prussia, Miracle, , Rebel and Lady July 7, 2009 to Aug. 19, 2009

11-13-2009, 08:23 AM	#32
RachelandSadie No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 5,748	i would demand some answers or go to a different vet if it were me...this keeps happening and one of these times it wont' be so easy for her to get better.

11-15-2009, 04:48 AM	#35
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	NO CHICKEN this could be your problem. This could be inflammatory bowel disease if the bowels get inflamed then it can induce vomitting or diarhea but also can possibly produce constipation. The pumpkin should be helping. Have you tried using coconut oil as a dietary supplement as this may help move things through as well - start with a 1/8 of a teaspoon daily for a week then move up to 1/4 tsp right after eating in morning. I will read this whole thread to see what i can find. Another thing that will definitely move things is brown rice as it is a high source of fiber but can trigger colitis so it could do the opposite affect but it will definitely move things so cook up some brown steamed rice -- i bought the organic brown rice at whole foods in the freezer section - I will read this thread and see what if i can help further

11-15-2009, 04:50 AM	#36
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	ok well if this is working stick to it but if you are still having to supplement with mylicon then something may still not be running right but you will not know until you start cutting back on that. What about lactulose as that makes dogs go as well just curious if they ever mentioned that

11-15-2009, 04:51 AM	#37
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	also with a dog with constipation i would feed a wet food not dry as it is easier to digest

11-15-2009, 04:58 AM	#39
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	No turkey No poultry as sounds like poultry could be your trigger - I have read turkey is not good for dogs either and may be making her gassy. I would recommend feeding her canned natural balance venison and sweet potato or Fish and sweet potato - NO WHITE POTATO as it is inflammatory - NO inflammatory foods so google inflammatory foods. Go VERY BASIC. Just feed her the canned food and NO TREATS right now you need to get back to basics --Here is the deal with pumpkin it is used for constipation and for diarhea so too much can do the reverese affect so you have to be cautious of that - I gave too much along with brown rice and my girl had diarhea so the brown rice went through her whole along with having orange pudding poops.

11-15-2009, 05:06 AM	#43
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	here is some info on turkey and why the day after thanksgiving is a bad day for pancreatitis. It is mainly due to dark meat and skin being fatty. Dog Park Etiquette Blog Archive Is Turkey bad for dogs? But the internal medicine specialist did tell me many dogs with ibd cannot handle poultry

11-15-2009, 05:11 AM	#45
dwerten BANNED! Join Date: May 2007 Location: USA Posts: 11,073	The Veterinary Use of Lactulose (Enulose, Cephulac) in Pets lactulose is for constipation and mylicon is for gas so not sure why they have not mentioned lactulose as a possible thing to help???