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Old 08-22-2009, 02:36 PM   #1
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So now Joey has been diagnosed with pancreatitis. He started throwing up on and off two days ago and then in the middle of last night, it got worse and he couldn't keep anything down. I ran over to the vet. Bloodwork came back positive for pancreatitis. Problem is he needs a low fat diet, but he also needs a low protein diet for his liver. The vet is scratching his head on this one. He doesn't want any food at the moment. They gave him fluids and meds, but he really seems to always have something. Last month it was a cold and conjunctivitis. I love him like crazy, but he is turning into the million dollar baby.
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Oh, we know all about million dollar dogs here.
Ellie also has a liver problem and has had pancreatitis.
Fortunately the liver problem isn't bad and she can tolerate a bit of fat.

Just thinking, I wonder if Purina HA is low protein and fat.
It seems to me that it's possible.
Ellie didn't do well on it but all dogs are different.
It's soy based.

If you can't find a dog food for it, you may need to homecook.
I'll go look up the HA info.
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Purina Veterinary Diets - HA HypoAllergenic - Canine

Maybe it will work...
It made Ellie's stool so hard that she could barely go though.
I suppose it's worth a try. Not a fan of Purina though...
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So now Joey has been diagnosed with pancreatitis. He started throwing up on and off two days ago and then in the middle of last night, it got worse and he couldn't keep anything down. I ran over to the vet. Bloodwork came back positive for pancreatitis. Problem is he needs a low fat diet, but he also needs a low protein diet for his liver. The vet is scratching his head on this one. He doesn't want any food at the moment. They gave him fluids and meds, but he really seems to always have something. Last month it was a cold and conjunctivitis. I love him like crazy, but he is turning into the million dollar baby.
purina ha -- it is a soy diet and is low in protein for liver and low in fat -- my two yorkies are on it and doing great -- i almost lost my boy yorkie to pancreatitis 3 years ago and he has ibd in small intestines and this food is a miracle so he has not had any issues for 3 years and blood work normal on it. My girl yorkie is on it for mvd so it works well for both
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Purina Veterinary Diets - HA HypoAllergenic - Canine

Maybe it will work...
It made Ellie's stool so hard that she could barely go though.
I suppose it's worth a try. Not a fan of Purina though...
both of mine are on it doing great so i would give it a shot but some do not like the taste luckily mine are little pigs and will eat anything lol
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Purina Veterinary Diets - HA HypoAllergenic - Canine

Maybe it will work...
It made Ellie's stool so hard that she could barely go though.
I suppose it's worth a try. Not a fan of Purina though...
mine do not have the stool issue but if yours does you can add some organic pumpkin to it once a day but i would first do it without anything
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Thank you both so much. I was just reading about that food and wondered if it would work. I'm willing to try anything. Poor Joey is in a lot of pain tonight. The vet gave him an injection of an anti-nausea medicine and it stung like crazy. He seemed ok, but then our kitten jumped on him (he feels like a feather) and since then no one can pick him up and he won't walk on his leash. He starts to scream and yelp. It is so upsetting. I hope this will resolve tomorrow. At least he is not throwing up anymore. This has been a bad day.
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Layla has pancreaitis (many yorkies on here do) but thankfully didn't have any symptoms. I home cook for her- very low fat diet- I am starting to bring a few healthy fats back in (mainly fish) and she is doing great. I used a nutritionist. Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care and I would suggest you look at her site and if you were going to get a consult- i would suggest doing the consult with the vet as well since your yorkie has multiple issues. Hoping tomorrow is a better day for him.
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I went through something similar this year with my Cody. Cody has multiple medical issues.
He was hospitalized in April and May three times with pancreatitis and his BUN and Creatinine were also elevated. At the time, we honestly did not think he had long to live. He was seen by a specialist who said that he was in stage 3 renal failure. He advised low fat and low protein, but was not very helpful about diet. He told me that I could try the different foods out there, but never gave me any idea about how much fat and how much protein. The major problem with the prescription diets was that if you found one that was low in fat, it was high in protein and vice versa.
Finally, after getting disgusted with this specialist who really was impatient and in my way of thinking arrogant, I called Texas A&M. They have a vet there who is a nutritionist. I asked if I could do a consult online since Cody had undergone the whole testing thing...ultrasounds, lab testing, etc. They said that my vet could do a telephone consult. I wanted a diet for Cody that I could cook myself. For $125 I received two recipes for him...and they included vitamins and also Tums to bind the phosporous for his kidney issues. Bottom line: He has had quality time with me...I realize his time is limited, but he is a happy boy and doing very well with this diet and also fluids daily.
You might want to consider something like this...This vet reviewed all of Cody's tests and came up with these recipes and told me exact amounts...and how much to feed .
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Oh...and a medicine that helped him was Mirtazapine. Ask your vet about it...it is an antiemetic, anti nausea and also an appetite stimulant.
It actually is an antidepressant for people, but they have used it for some time in cats..and now dogs. It really, really helped Cody!
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Thank you both so much. I was just reading about that food and wondered if it would work. I'm willing to try anything. Poor Joey is in a lot of pain tonight. The vet gave him an injection of an anti-nausea medicine and it stung like crazy. He seemed ok, but then our kitten jumped on him (he feels like a feather) and since then no one can pick him up and he won't walk on his leash. He starts to scream and yelp. It is so upsetting. I hope this will resolve tomorrow. At least he is not throwing up anymore. This has been a bad day.
take him in if in pain as pancreatitis is very serious and extremely painful and he will have to be in iv fluids, pain meds and antibiotics. He needs to be rested as they can die from pancreatitis Mine almost did and you should not be walking him or anything -he should only be resting - I am shocked vet just gave him anti-vomitting only and did not keep on iv fluids, etc as mine was hospitalized for 5 days with pancreatitis
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home cooking is great but if it is not something you can do at this time do the purina ha as it has worked very well for us with dexter and the one thing that concerns me about susan davis is she recommends white potato in diets and i am against that as many pancreatic dogs have ibd in small intestines and white potato inflames the intestines thus triggering pancreatitis. I am not big on a bunch of supplements either as i believe the body should function on its own as much as it can without a bunch of supplements and if you add pancreatic enzymes the pancreas stops doing its job and then you have a real problem so best to start with food and if you cannot get normalized then go to supplementation
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Also add digestive enzymes to food. This takes the stress off the pancreas to produce it while irritated. Only while resting with a fast and several small meals a day. This gives the pancreas time to heal.

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take him in if in pain as pancreatitis is very serious and extremely painful and he will have to be in iv fluids, pain meds and antibiotics. He needs to be rested as they can die from pancreatitis Mine almost did and you should not be walking him or anything -he should only be resting - I am shocked vet just gave him anti-vomitting only and did not keep on iv fluids, etc as mine was hospitalized for 5 days with pancreatitis
Are there varying degrees of pancreatitis? When I say I am walking Joey, I mean just to do his business outside and then come in, he is not trained on pee pads. The most bizarre thing is he screams in pain when I pick him up, no matter how little pressure I apply to his body. I am beside myself. He ate a few Hepatic LS kibble (Royal Canin) because this was what the vet said I should give him (for now), but that's it for eating. Yesterday he was given fluids subcutaneously, but not an IV. The vet said he wasn't dehydrated yet. Should I get pain meds for him? I have his bloodwork results if anyone can interpret them. My vet is not in today and I would have to take him to Oradell and I'm afraid they will start doing xrays, etc., although I know he didn't injure himself. I don't know what to do. He looks so uncomfortable and can't relax. I put him in his crate so he would be protected from the other pets trying to play with him and he just stands there. I really need some advice. If he eats and takes in fluids, would it be okay to wait until tomorrow when my regular vet gets in? I spoke to the vet last night on the phone and he seems to think Joey is crying from a hematoma at the injection site (where they gave him the anti-nausea med), even though when I pick him up, I am not touching that site. He is so tiny and he went through a lot yesterday that his whole little body is probably throbbing.
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