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KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:21 AM
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KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SexyJessi257 (Post 2061375)
omg im so sorry for ur loss. abby has been a picky eater since day 1 n still is 3 months laters :eek: i had posted many threads about her not eating and all that n i would constantly be told to have a BAT test performed on her. thank god i never did tho cuz she has a much better appetite now. the scary thing is that she is only 5 months now. imagine i would have listened to people n done it wen she was 3 months n nearly 2lbs!!!! :eek::eek: omg. thank god i didnt.

unless they are truly sick it is much better to wait until 6 months old as i have now learned it is to risky and even worse for a sick pup who may not be able to recover and not have a shunt

KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynn (Post 2061334)
Oh I feel a genetic marker will be found with Dr. Center doing all her hard work! It will be so much better for us breeders to have that marker and breed better and healthy yorkies!!

Donna


i agree let us hope it is soon so we may know our lines front and back and slowly breed this horrible trait out of these babies and be able to stop heart ache for the breeder's and potentail buyer's

Patti 06-20-2008 09:27 AM
I am so sorry for your tragic loss. I have a MVD dog and after going thru all that I said I would only get a puppy that had been BA tested. Well I decided that after reading so much on here that I was better making sure I got my next puppy/dog from a reputable breeder. So that's what I did. I also had no idea how hard the test is on our babies. Thank you for letting us nonbreeders know exactly what can go wrong and how hardit is on them.

NanaDtreasures 06-20-2008 09:34 AM
Omg
 
I too am crying as I read this Rose
NOT lil teaser...
After all you went thru with him and he was doing so good
I am so sad..
I know you are just crushed
(((((((((((ROSE)))))))))))
He was such a lil doll...I am just in shock here :(
I think ALL of us will take this to heart about testing

KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NanaDtreasures (Post 2061417)
I too am crying as I read this Rose
NOT lil teaser...
After all you went thru with him and he was doing so good
I am so sad..
I know you are just crushed
(((((((((((ROSE)))))))))))
He was such a lil doll...I am just in shock here :(
I think ALL of us will take this to heart about testing

thank you

you knew how i felt about teaser and yes my heart is broken but if there is something for all to learn than i feel is was not in vain
to raise him until 12 week's and than just gone in the night i feel so horrible
i watched his passing and i can't even start to go threw what i experenced
at the vet's it was a living night mare and i know he never even stood a chance to understand what was happening
even with all they tried to do it was just not meant to be everyone was crying in the vet's office they had taken care of him with exams and such since birth life sometimes is not to be understood

KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Patti (Post 2061403)
I am so sorry for your tragic loss. I have a MVD dog and after going thru all that I said I would only get a puppy that had been BA tested. Well I decided that after reading so much on here that I was better making sure I got my next puppy/dog from a reputable breeder. So that's what I did. I also had no idea how hard the test is on our babies. Thank you for letting us nonbreeders know exactly what can go wrong and how hardit is on them.
you are so very welcome just remember even if you require a bat from a puppy there is no way to know what may crop up as an adult

YorkieRose 06-20-2008 09:47 AM
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I have never tested a Yorkie under 6 months and never will, with one EXCEPTION..if it was sick and we suppected a liver problem...if that prevented anyone from wanting to own one of my puppies, so be it..they could go somewhere else...

Rose, I am so very sorry for your loss...I am also so very leery of a vet who would suggest fasting a A-sympotmatic litter of puppies, some under 2 pounds..and then drawing the amount of blood needed for a BA..

Simply make a contract stating you will pay for a 6 month BA test and you will refund the puppy cost if it has a shunt..they can keep the puppy.

PS.... I only fast a 3 to 4 pound adult for 6 hrs before a dental or S/N etc...

KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 2061453)
I have never tested a Yorkie under 6 months and never will, with one EXCEPTION..if it was sick and we suppected a liver problem...if that prevented anyone from wanting to own one of my puppies, so be it..they could go somewhere else...

Rose, I am so very sorry for your loss...I am also so very leery of a vet who would suggest fasting a A-sympotmatic litter of puppies, some under 2 pounds..and then drawing the amount of blood needed for a BA..

Simply make a contract stating you will pay for a 6 month BA test and you will refund the puppy cost if it has a shunt..they can keep the puppy.

PS.... I only fast a 3 to 4 pound adult for 6 hrs before a dental or S/N etc...


i can not blame my vet she did not want to do it i blame myself i do now know what can happen with this kind of testing on pups
the only bright side is i know they are clear at this point and time but who knows as an adult dog

i agree under 6 months it just not a thing to do
and for the people who want the tiny guys that are only 2 pound as an adult watch what you ask for because they are still not safe at that size for testing

Ellie May 06-20-2008 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SexyJessi257 (Post 2061375)
omg im so sorry for ur loss. abby has been a picky eater since day 1 n still is 3 months laters :eek: i had posted many threads about her not eating and all that n i would constantly be told to have a BAT test performed on her. thank god i never did tho cuz she has a much better appetite now. the scary thing is that she is only 5 months now. imagine i would have listened to people n done it wen she was 3 months n nearly 2lbs!!!! :eek::eek: omg. thank god i didnt.
Bile acid testing young puppies is sometimes the right thing to do.
If the pup isn't eating anything, it needs to be determined why, especially if there are other symptoms. Some Yorkies are also spayed or neutered at 16 weeks (which I would NOT do) and that has got to be harder on them than a blood test. It depends on the individual dog and whatever you do, you need to trust your vet.

KYBLUE 06-20-2008 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2061462)
Bile acid testing young puppies is sometimes the right thing to do.
If the pup isn't eating anything, it needs to be determined why, especially if there are other symptoms. Some Yorkies are also spayed or neutered at 16 weeks (which I would NOT do) and that has got to be harder on them than a blood test. It depends on the individual dog and whatever you do, you need to trust your vet.

i agree some pups are just stronger than other's

Susan123 06-20-2008 10:06 AM
I'm so sorry Rose. I know you're your heartbroken over this. I'm angry that people jump on a bandwagon and come down on breeders for not testing and this happens. We breeders try to do our best with our puppies and when so many are screaming testing, it puts alot of pressure on us. I'm very sorry.
Susan

bchgirl 06-20-2008 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 2061453)
I have never tested a Yorkie under 6 months and never will, with one EXCEPTION..if it was sick and we suppected a liver problem...if that prevented anyone from wanting to own one of my puppies, so be it..they could go somewhere else...

Rose, I am so very sorry for your loss...I am also so very leery of a vet who would suggest fasting a A-sympotmatic litter of puppies, some under 2 pounds..and then drawing the amount of blood needed for a BA..

Simply make a contract stating you will pay for a 6 month BA test and you will refund the puppy cost if it has a shunt..they can keep the puppy.

PS.... I only fast a 3 to 4 pound adult for 6 hrs before a dental or S/N etc...
That would be acceptable to me. I think it's a terrific idea. Once someone has purchased a puppy...they are in love with that puppy and don't want a replacement puppy...and certainly not from the same lines...they may have gotten sick puppy.

I'm sorry Teaser died, Rose.

KYBLUE 06-20-2008 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Susan123 (Post 2061483)
I'm so sorry Rose. I know you're your heartbroken over this. I'm angry that people jump on a bandwagon and come down on breeders for not testing and this happens. We breeders try to do our best with our puppies and when so many are screaming testing, it puts alot of pressure on us. I'm very sorry.
Susan
thank's susan i know you understand

YorkieRose 06-20-2008 10:52 AM
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Don't blame yourself Rose...I have made mistakes in breeding areas and wish I could undo the results...your heart was in the right place as you were trying to do the best for all involved, your breeding program, puppies and new owners... All we can do it learn from it...


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