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Ellie May · 02-05-2008, 10:12 AM

My question for vets is why do they give antibiotics for it when I thought it was a virus?

yorkiegirl_101 · 02-05-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

My question for vets is why do they give antibiotics for it when I thought it was a virus?

Nope Bordertella is bactierial (sp?)

KathyinCali · 02-06-2008, 01:41 PM

Lucy got kennel cough the very next day after her shot

janelles · 02-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Can I ask? What is the purpose for the shot or the nasal? What is it supposed to prevent? Teddy had a cough when we first got him, which he passed on to Tootsie, but our vet prescribed a very low dosage of children's cough medicine, which cleared it up.
Thanks
Janelles

mc2319 · 02-22-2008, 06:00 PM

I wonder if Chelsea might have bordetella now...

She had her bordetella vaccine and others on the a week ago today...and I'm assuming it was intranasal because I didn't see them give her a shot... I thought they gave it orally, but I guess not... But since then she's been coughing like she's trying to get something up and she's been sneezing a little... but other than that she seems fine...eating, playing, etc like normal....

stewartsdsu · 02-23-2008, 01:27 PM

I think both of my dogs have kennel cough. My parents came down to help me move last weekend and brought their new rescue dog, who stayed with me the whole weekend. Their dog has kennel cough so I'm pretty positive mine do too. Last night they were both coughing and Riley threw up. I feel awful and so do my parents, but they didn't know their dog was infected. I tried to make an appointment today with three different vets but they're all booked till Monday. I think I'm gonna take them to an emergency vet. I talked to my vet on the phone to see if they've been vaccinated with Bortadella and they have. But the vet said they can still come down with it. It's like the human equivalent of the flu shot. I'm wondering if they would have gotten more sick if they didn't get vaccinated. Well, I better get going...gotta take care of the sick pups.

Kris Christine · 02-24-2008, 03:55 AM

Of the 5 dogs we have owned, the only ones who ever got kennel cough were the 3 who were vaccinated against it -- the 2 who were not vaccinated against kennel cough never caught it after being boarded! Hamish had the worst case of kennel cough -- he coughed up phlegm and it took about 3 weeks for him to recover. At the time, the vet did not give him any meds. The information at the bottom of this message might be of interest.

Also, I recently read about someone giving their dog honey and it helped with a cough and The Whole Dog Journal had an article about honey and dogs http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/iss...s_15967-1.html in which Juliette de Bairacli Levy says she believes dogs derive the same health benefits from it as humans.

Honey in tea certainly helps my children when they get coughs. I hope your little ones are better soon.

Regarding the Bordetella (Kennel Cough) vaccine, on Page 2 of the American Animal Hospital Association's 2003 Canine Vaccine Guidelines and Recommendations, it states that "Optional or 'noncore' vaccines are those that the committee believe should be considered only in special circumstances because their use is more dependent on the exposure risk of the individual animal. Issues of geographic distribution and lifestyle should be considered before administering these vaccines. In addition, the diseases involved are generally self-limiting or respond readily to treatment. The committee believes this group of vaccines comprises distemper-meases virus (D-MV), canine parainfluenza virus (CPIV), Leptospira spp., Bordetella bronchispetica, and Borrelia burdorferi."

Further, on Page 14 of the AAHA Guidelines, it states: "Bordetella bronchiseptica (B. bronchiseptica): Bordetella bronchiseptica is another cause of the “kennel cough” syn-drome. Infection in some susceptible dogs generally causes a self-limiting, upper respiratory disease and rarely causes life-threatening disease in otherwise healthy animals. Clini-cal disease resolves quickly when treated with appropriate antibiotics. Vaccination does not block infection but appears to lessen clinical disease, and vaccines provide a short DOI (<1 year) [table 2]. It is also unknown whether current vac-cine strains protect against all field strains."

Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm .

The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf .

Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/.

02-05-2008, 10:12 AM	#16
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02-06-2008, 01:41 PM	#18
KathyinCali Love My Li'l Lucy Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,700	Lucy got kennel cough the very next day after her shot __________________ Kathy and Lil' Lucy and Jammies Rest in Peace my Sweet Buster

02-23-2008, 01:27 PM	#21
stewartsdsu Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 91	I think both of my dogs have kennel cough. My parents came down to help me move last weekend and brought their new rescue dog, who stayed with me the whole weekend. Their dog has kennel cough so I'm pretty positive mine do too. Last night they were both coughing and Riley threw up. I feel awful and so do my parents, but they didn't know their dog was infected. I tried to make an appointment today with three different vets but they're all booked till Monday. I think I'm gonna take them to an emergency vet. I talked to my vet on the phone to see if they've been vaccinated with Bortadella and they have. But the vet said they can still come down with it. It's like the human equivalent of the flu shot. I'm wondering if they would have gotten more sick if they didn't get vaccinated. Well, I better get going...gotta take care of the sick pups. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/yorkiesforever

02-06-2008, 01:52 PM	#19
janelles YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 324	Can I ask? What is the purpose for the shot or the nasal? What is it supposed to prevent? Teddy had a cough when we first got him, which he passed on to Tootsie, but our vet prescribed a very low dosage of children's cough medicine, which cleared it up. Thanks Janelles

02-22-2008, 06:00 PM	#20
mc2319 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 12	I wonder if Chelsea might have bordetella now... She had her bordetella vaccine and others on the a week ago today...and I'm assuming it was intranasal because I didn't see them give her a shot... I thought they gave it orally, but I guess not... But since then she's been coughing like she's trying to get something up and she's been sneezing a little... but other than that she seems fine...eating, playing, etc like normal....

02-24-2008, 03:55 AM	#22
Kris Christine YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: THE RABIES CHALLENGE FUND Posts: 434	Of the 5 dogs we have owned, the only ones who ever got kennel cough were the 3 who were vaccinated against it -- the 2 who were not vaccinated against kennel cough never caught it after being boarded! Hamish had the worst case of kennel cough -- he coughed up phlegm and it took about 3 weeks for him to recover. At the time, the vet did not give him any meds. The information at the bottom of this message might be of interest. Also, I recently read about someone giving their dog honey and it helped with a cough and The Whole Dog Journal had an article about honey and dogs http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/iss...s_15967-1.html in which Juliette de Bairacli Levy says she believes dogs derive the same health benefits from it as humans. Honey in tea certainly helps my children when they get coughs. I hope your little ones are better soon. Regarding the Bordetella (Kennel Cough) vaccine, on Page 2 of the American Animal Hospital Association's 2003 Canine Vaccine Guidelines and Recommendations, it states that "Optional or 'noncore' vaccines are those that the committee believe should be considered only in special circumstances because their use is more dependent on the exposure risk of the individual animal. Issues of geographic distribution and lifestyle should be considered before administering these vaccines. In addition, the diseases involved are generally self-limiting or respond readily to treatment. The committee believes this group of vaccines comprises distemper-meases virus (D-MV), canine parainfluenza virus (CPIV), Leptospira spp., Bordetella bronchispetica, and Borrelia burdorferi." Further, on Page 14 of the AAHA Guidelines, it states: "Bordetella bronchiseptica (B. bronchiseptica): Bordetella bronchiseptica is another cause of the “kennel cough” syn-drome. Infection in some susceptible dogs generally causes a self-limiting, upper respiratory disease and rarely causes life-threatening disease in otherwise healthy animals. Clini-cal disease resolves quickly when treated with appropriate antibiotics. Vaccination does not block infection but appears to lessen clinical disease, and vaccines provide a short DOI (<1 year) [table 2]. It is also unknown whether current vac-cine strains protect against all field strains." Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm . The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf . Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/.