To Bark or Debark? That is the Question! - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

speck103 · 04-27-2006, 04:05 PM

This is one of the silliest things I've ever heard! I'm tired of peopling trying to make dogs into something their not. Dogs bark, pee, poop and sometimes don't do what you want them, but guess what they are dogs!! My dog barks and yes sometimes it get's on peoples nerves, including mine, but I live in an apartment building that allows dogs, so they can either get over it like me or move.
I imagine that one day there will be a little robot breed of dogs that are A sexual and just sit and smile at you and do whatever it is you want when you want it.

kitty · 04-27-2006, 04:18 PM

I feel that debarking is cruel! I would give my baby up before putting it through such cruelty. Would you like your voice taken away?

speck103 · 04-27-2006, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitty

I feel that debarking is cruel! I would give my baby up before putting it through such cruelty. Would you like your voice taken away?

Well Said!

red98vett · 04-28-2006, 05:52 AM

I couldn't vote. I'd move before I gave up or debarked a dog I loved.

StewiesMom · 04-28-2006, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett

I couldn't vote. I'd move before I gave up or debarked a dog I loved.

I agree. I didn't vote either.

BabyFidgette · 04-28-2006, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewiesMom

I agree. I didn't vote either.

Me too, that's one reason we moved from the apartment to the house. But, there were only two choices, so....

lily's mom · 04-28-2006, 08:47 AM

I voted no, that I would never debark. However, I wouldn't give her away either! I have moved before just to be able to keep my dogs. I would again too but I would never debark her, never!!!!!

jim n · 04-28-2006, 03:06 PM

Are you barbaric?? I would never debark a dog, for any reason.

Kupara · 04-28-2006, 05:42 PM

Why do you find one type of pain and torture acceptable and the other not?

I find that docking of tails (on most dog breeds) or cropping ears (schnauzers for example) removing the uterus in spaying, removing the testicles in neutering, removing dew claws is just as "cruel and barbaric" as debarking a dog.

I understand that spaying and neutering is necessary to control the number of pets in each of our respective countries. But for the rest...

My mother-in-law used to be a schnauzer breeder and I can assure you that ear cropping is very painful to those poor babies. You can also lose puppies while they're under, AND there is no guarantee the ears will come up. The countries in the world that still allow ear cropping are a MINORITY and in likelyhood it may not be for much longer if the animal activists have their way. Here they don't even teach any ear cropping technique to the newer veterinarians anymore.

Mutilation in the name of fashion or tradition is just not acceptable in my opinion.

P.S. Sorry If my English isn't very good. It's only my third language but I'm trying really hard to improve my writing skills in English.

Elizabeth

BabyFidgette · 04-28-2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kupara

Why do you find one type of pain and torture acceptable and the other not?

I find that docking of tails (on most dog breeds) or cropping ears (schnauzers for example) removing the uterus in spaying, removing the testicles in neutering, removing dew claws is just as "cruel and barbaric" as debarking a dog.

I understand that spaying and neutering is necessary to control the number of pets in each of our respective countries. But for the rest...

My mother-in-law used to be a schnauzer breeder and I can assure you that ear cropping is very painful to those poor babies. You can also lose puppies while they're under, AND there is no guarantee the ears will come up. The countries in the world that still allow ear cropping are a MINORITY and in likelyhood it may not be for much longer if the animal activists have their way. Here they don't even teach any ear cropping technique to the newer veterinarians anymore.

Mutilation in the name of fashion or tradition is just not acceptable in my opinion.

P.S. Sorry If my English isn't very good. It's only my third language but I'm trying really hard to improve my writing skills in English.

Elizabeth

Sorry to get off topic, but I HAD to say this...3rd language? You write/speak great!

dezertblu · 05-04-2006, 03:58 PM

as a kid I knew a sheltie who was debarked, the owner had formerly lived in a no bark appartment, but now they had moved into thier own home, and the sheltie of course was still without his bark.He sounded like a very quiet raspy dog whisper barking if you could imagine that.Personally I would never look at living somewhere i couldn't have my pets as they are....I just don't do that, I mean I took them on and they come first, I mean would you take and move to a no childrens place knowing you had kids? Would you take the kids voice away to apease the place you lived? don't be silly of course not, you would look into a child friendly area, same goes for pets.Thats just my oppinion of course.

jbarile · 05-04-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dianne

I cant believe Im repling to this thread but sorry guys just my opinion but de barking is cruel and absolutly barbaric in my opinion.

I agree with you Dianne! and that Im even replying! I remember this same question came up in another thread last year sometime, and I feel the same way you do!! and I would move! Debarking wouldn't even come to my mind! My dogs are like my children (seriously) I either wouldn't have moved into a place where my dogs would be a problem or snuck them into a place where it
I had to attempt to hide them or debark them from being caught just to live there! it's senseless! there is never a good enough reason! I would move or not own a dog.. dogs Bark, Babies cry, children scream! just my opinion!

YorkieRose · 05-04-2006, 04:52 PM

I would do and did exactly what Zee of Cup"O" Luv Yorkies did many years ago...I was visiting and we were sitting in her family room..on the other side of the wall was the girls playroom....I made the comment about it being so quiet..minutes before we were in the room with a dozen Yorkies were a "bark off'...now there was not a peep...come to find out the room was sound proof!

If I could not move..I would get the money and have one bedroom made sound proof.

Infact when we built the dog rooms on our Md house, the contractor doubled the sheet rock and put metal sheeting between the two outside walls...15/20 Yorkies could bark and if you stood outside you heard nothing.

YorkieRose · 05-04-2006, 05:09 PM

A sentence got lost...."one room would be for confining while you are out of the house..at least no one could complain while you were gone...and you can teach them not to bark non-stop if you are with them.

doggrooming · 05-11-2006, 08:20 AM

imo debarking is the worse thing someone could do. I personally think that it is crule. There is nothing worse.

View Poll Results: Would you debark or rehome?
Yes!!!! I would debark my baby and keep him/her!	43	35.83%
No!!!! I could not do it, I would have to find Baby a new home.	77	64.17%
Voters: 120. You may not vote on this poll

04-27-2006, 04:05 PM	#16
speck103 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 255	Oh brother! This is one of the silliest things I've ever heard! I'm tired of peopling trying to make dogs into something their not. Dogs bark, pee, poop and sometimes don't do what you want them, but guess what they are dogs!! My dog barks and yes sometimes it get's on peoples nerves, including mine, but I live in an apartment building that allows dogs, so they can either get over it like me or move. I imagine that one day there will be a little robot breed of dogs that are A sexual and just sit and smile at you and do whatever it is you want when you want it. __________________ Merlot http://www.dogster.com/?280217 Lucy http://www.dogster.com/dogs/516916

04-28-2006, 05:52 AM	#19
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I couldn't vote. I'd move before I gave up or debarked a dog I loved. __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

04-28-2006, 08:47 AM	#22
lily's mom Lily Loves Maximus Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,633	I voted no, that I would never debark. However, I wouldn't give her away either! I have moved before just to be able to keep my dogs. I would again too but I would never debark her, never!!!!! __________________ Lily and Dawn

05-04-2006, 03:58 PM	#26
dezertblu YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 315	ummmmm as a kid I knew a sheltie who was debarked, the owner had formerly lived in a no bark appartment, but now they had moved into thier own home, and the sheltie of course was still without his bark.He sounded like a very quiet raspy dog whisper barking if you could imagine that.Personally I would never look at living somewhere i couldn't have my pets as they are....I just don't do that, I mean I took them on and they come first, I mean would you take and move to a no childrens place knowing you had kids? Would you take the kids voice away to apease the place you lived? don't be silly of course not, you would look into a child friendly area, same goes for pets.Thats just my oppinion of course. __________________ Love & Light Always

04-27-2006, 04:18 PM	#17
kitty My Best Friend Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 2,258	I feel that debarking is cruel! I would give my baby up before putting it through such cruelty. Would you like your voice taken away?

04-28-2006, 03:06 PM	#23
jim n Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 202	Are you barbaric?? I would never debark a dog, for any reason.

04-28-2006, 05:42 PM	#24
Kupara Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Qc, Canada Posts: 22	Why do you find one type of pain and torture acceptable and the other not? I find that docking of tails (on most dog breeds) or cropping ears (schnauzers for example) removing the uterus in spaying, removing the testicles in neutering, removing dew claws is just as "cruel and barbaric" as debarking a dog. I understand that spaying and neutering is necessary to control the number of pets in each of our respective countries. But for the rest... My mother-in-law used to be a schnauzer breeder and I can assure you that ear cropping is very painful to those poor babies. You can also lose puppies while they're under, AND there is no guarantee the ears will come up. The countries in the world that still allow ear cropping are a MINORITY and in likelyhood it may not be for much longer if the animal activists have their way. Here they don't even teach any ear cropping technique to the newer veterinarians anymore. Mutilation in the name of fashion or tradition is just not acceptable in my opinion. P.S. Sorry If my English isn't very good. It's only my third language but I'm trying really hard to improve my writing skills in English. Elizabeth

05-04-2006, 04:52 PM	#28
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	barking I would do and did exactly what Zee of Cup"O" Luv Yorkies did many years ago...I was visiting and we were sitting in her family room..on the other side of the wall was the girls playroom....I made the comment about it being so quiet..minutes before we were in the room with a dozen Yorkies were a "bark off'...now there was not a peep...come to find out the room was sound proof! If I could not move..I would get the money and have one bedroom made sound proof. Infact when we built the dog rooms on our Md house, the contractor doubled the sheet rock and put metal sheeting between the two outside walls...15/20 Yorkies could bark and if you stood outside you heard nothing.

05-04-2006, 05:09 PM	#29
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	barking A sentence got lost...."one room would be for confining while you are out of the house..at least no one could complain while you were gone...and you can teach them not to bark non-stop if you are with them.

05-11-2006, 08:20 AM	#30
doggrooming YT Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: foss, ok Posts: 321	imo debarking is the worse thing someone could do. I personally think that it is crule. There is nothing worse.