Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3757229)

OP since you are so concerned about the plight of people with the economy being as it is, just curious if you have perhaps cut down on breeding? That might be a perfect way right now to help the situation. It is probably hard to sell pups these days anyway....but I am sure you would not want to place one in a home that could not afford vetting expenses. I would rather see people try to prevent the problem rather than putting a bandaid on a wound that needed sutures if you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3756712)

The point of this thread was to have some of my concerns about how some people respond to an OP's question !

Some of you did just that. . .which proved my point. There are those who can answer just the question and are willing to provide answers and there are those of you who take it one step further by adding such harsh, judgmental words or just plain contempt instead of just answering the question !

My hope was that by bringing this to your attention people may think twice about how they approach the question. An OP shounldn't have to go into every little detail and aspect of there life situation before a member deems them worthy of a respectful response. I would hope that it could be managed with a little more grace and kindness. But, Oh well I tried.

I got a lot of input and reasonable responses from you with some very valid points. Others just didn't get it . . .

(Logging off frustrated !)

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3757238)

taken from my post: those of you who take it one step further by adding such harsh, judgmental words or just plain contempt instead of just answering the question !



I'm not talking about this thread, I am referring to a percentage (NOT All) replies to OP's questions that they seek answers to here on YT. Please don't think that I am not talking about YT in general. That is not the case in any way. I totaly enjoy spending long hours here in the YT community. Why else would I make myself a target by starting this thread.

Belive me, I dont like conflict in any way. Thats not who I am. In my life I run the other way. I try to live a drama free life. But I do care enough to listen, and I am very opinionated and straight to the point. I dont coddle or beat around the bush. But underneath all of that I am a very caring person. Although that may be up for debate right now !!

I'm not sure why I cant be that way here. I guess maybe I just dont want to be labeled one of those people . . . uhh uhhh, not me. "Call me fake" (I really hope you dont) but whatever. I just cant do it. I would rather get my point across in the most respectful, kind hearted way as I can.

That being said, by starting this thread I now understand a bit better why some members reply in the manner they do. I get it . . .but, I may have never known if I hadn't asked !

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3757253)

OK...maybe I am confused. It sure did appear to me that you were referring to this thread. You just quoted only a piece of it...if you look at the entire highlighted and red sentence above, it sure looks to me like it was THIS thread that had you calling people harsh, judgemental and full of contempt. I personally thought it was a bit over the top.

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 3757255)

:thumbup:

What parts of this thread were harsh and judgmental? I'm really just confused here. These terms get used a lot without much explanation.

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3757238)

Belive me, I dont like conflict in any way. Thats not who I am. In my life I run the other way. I try to live a drama free life. But I do care enough to listen, and I am very opinionated and straight to the point. I dont coddle or beat around the bush. But underneath all of that I am a very caring person. Although that may be up for debate right now !!

I'm not sure why I cant be that way here. I guess maybe I just dont want to be labeled one of those people . . . uhh uhhh, not me. "Call me fake" (I really hope you dont) but whatever. I just cant do it. I would rather get my point across in the most respectful, kind hearted way as I can.

That being said, by starting this thread I now understand a bit better why some members reply in the manner they do. I get it . . .but, I may have never known if I hadn't asked !

Originally Posted by KazzyK810 (Post 3757320)

Caring, kind.....I get what you're saying...but this is a public forum, so you're going to get all types of people & personalities.

I honestly wouldn't describe myself as real caring. I care about my family, my pup.....I'm not one of those warm fuzzy people that will always hug you when they see you. That's just not me....so my posts probably won't come across as all warm & fuzzy either. I hope that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to post.

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3757348)

Of course not, Please Do !!

It would be nice if when I ask a question or post something it came with a Warning: Kind Remarks ONly Please all other need Not bother, but not gonna happen. I know there are all types of people & personalities that not everyone thinks that same way I do.

Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 3757368)

Believe it or not, there are plenty of threads that have that in the first post. Pretty hilarious I say. If you have to put that in your post, you already know what type of answers you're gonna be getting.

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3757408)

I'm still trying to find the "poll" in this OP's post...:confused:

Anyone wanna explain...or should I just walk away?:rolleyes::p

Originally Posted by dawn27 (Post 3753600)

What if . . we all just set our frustrations and opinions aside for once and just answer the OP questions ?

Every post is part opinion. Even just posting a link is telling the OP you think xyz is wrong and this may help. That's an opinion. Frustration with inadequate veterinary care and inexperienced breeding is not a bad thing.

What if . . we care so much about the animal in question and only wrote what we know and guided them in the right direction or only answered what is asked of us ?

...because only answering what is asked is not going to help that person or their dog in the future. And if somebody gets there in time to tell a poster that breeding their 3lb, 6 month old is wrong, maybe they will listen. Perhaps they didn't ask if it was a good idea, but it is certainly in the best interest of the dog to bring up this point. Posters are guided to vets and that is what we know to do. If we know exactly how to fix a problem, most of us won't say so. It is ethically wrong.

What if . . . just for once when someone comes to us for our help and those of us who have the answers give them freely and those of you who only have harsh, unkind, opinionated, judgmental words to say Just Dont !!

I think we've been over this one enough. But most of us do give answers to the best of our ability. Being persistent does not mean that somebody doesn't have the right answer and being kind doesn't mean that somebody does have the right answer. I've read many a kind response from well meaning people who think they are right, but are medically wrong and could seriously injure or kill a dog with their advice. I'm not saying this never happens when somebody says something sternly, but that kindness does not equally correctness.

Too many time I have seen members leave YT because of the harsh opinions of other member. They go away without the knowledge and information they came here for. Information that could have make a deference. I know because I was also judged when I first came to YT, and It frustrates the hell out of me. There are so many times when members will judge others so harshly but do nothing to help them.

I feel good when I log off at the end of the day knowing that I was able to help someone. That when I come here I can offer my experiences as a pet owner and yes a breeder to those who need it. I try very hard to leave my opinions to myself unless asked. I am also very happy to take from YT member the knowledge that I have gathered during my time here on YT and I can admit I learn something new every day.

So, why is it so hard to give other that same respect and knowledge that they seek when they come to us for our help ?

Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3757734)

I'm really loving this thread. I wish it would be a sticky for when people ask "why is everyone being so mean" or "why won't you just give me help/info" or "what is no one just telling me how to breed my 3lb gril" etc.

BOOM send them right to this thread. Sometimes the "harsh" words on here are said from the most honest/truthful place in our heart and out of pure love for these dogs. We are here because we love Yorkies. Not because we love the people that own them. [Although A LOT of you are pretty darn lovable!!]

Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 3757773)

Exactly! I don't know about that last line, though. :p:eek:;)

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3757810)

What you talking about Willis? - YouTube

Sorry but, this just came to mind...and just for the record, I am definitely "lovable"!:rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3757951)

As lovable as I am...Heh, I'm done with this thread. It's casued people who really care about Yorkie's and their health and well being to get suspended. For no other reason then retaliation to being called "rude" and "mean" and I honestly don't think it's fair. Especially considering that I feel this post was meant to simply start drama.

Once again, good luck to everybody else.

Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3757951)

As lovable as I am...Heh, I'm done with this thread. It's casued people who really care about Yorkie's and their health and well being to get suspended. For no other reason then retaliation to being called "rude" and "mean" and I honestly don't think it's fair. Especially considering that I feel this post was meant to simply start drama.

Once again, good luck to everybody else.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3758004)

Yep~I've been on the receiving end of this type of drama one too many times. :rolleyes: but I've decided to just ignore these types of posts within a thread, say what I feel needs to be said and move on. One person has made my forever ignore list and there are others that I just don't even bother opening their threads. I've just added another....done.....done.....done. :)

Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3758416)

Ignore feature?
Watchoo talkin' bout willis!

Originally Posted by maci_mace (Post 3758416)

Ignore feature?
Watchoo talkin' bout willis!

Originally Posted by Jinger (Post 3758439)

I just want to say that my first posts on YT were questions about how to take care of Zoe and to a person every answer was helpful, caring and kind. She wouldn't be here without YT, & I'm grateful to this day. (BTW, there was ample "ammunition" for anyone who "wanted" to be harsh or whatever. But NOBODY was.) Then again, I wanted to keep her alive whatever it took, and it wouldn't have occurred to me to judge the "tone" or "warm fuzziness" of the help I got.
I don't understand anyone who wants to prove a point, cause problems, judge others or defend the practices of owners that are not caring for their pets with both appropriate physical care AND love. There are plenty of places to go and find contention and problems--YT doesn't need to be one of them...it's a place to learn, help one another, and enjoy yorkies and people.

P.S. I'm a thread killer, for some unknown reason to me :confused::D, so this will probably put this thread to a merciful end.

Originally Posted by Taryn0405 (Post 3757951)

As lovable as I am...Heh, I'm done with this thread. It's casued people who really care about Yorkie's and their health and well being to get suspended. For no other reason then retaliation to being called "rude" and "mean" and I honestly don't think it's fair. Especially considering that I feel this post was meant to simply start drama.

Once again, good luck to everybody else.

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 3758004)

Yep~I've been on the receiving end of this type of drama one too many times. :rolleyes: but I've decided to just ignore these types of posts within a thread, say what I feel needs to be said and move on. One person has made my forever ignore list and there are others that I just don't even bother opening their threads. I've just added another....done.....done.....done. :)