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Bekgarrett 05-17-2010 03:07 PM

Thank you Jazzybee445. I have found veterinarian links that intubation can compromise the area in the throat among other reasons of course:


Trachea Problems
"Coughing due to endotracheal tube irritation is fairly common. In some dogs it can be severe, especially dogs with a pre-existing problem like chronic bronchitis or collapsing trachea. There are a lot of factors involved in producing the coughing, such as how tight a fit the endotracheal tube was, whether the cuff was inflated too much or in some cases if deflation of the cuff prior to removal created an ridge in the cuff the was irritating. The cuff is like a balloon around the tube which is inflated to allow a seal to be formed between the tube and the trachea. They are plastic and can form irritating ridges when deflated. I didn't know that this happened until I attended a seminar in which the speaker showed a few slides from endoscopic views of the trachea after removal of anesthetic cuffs. These are usually minor problems."

Segmental tracheal dysplasia in a mixed breed dog
"Tracheal stenosis indicates a narrowing of the diameter of the trachea due to trauma or less frequently a congenital lesion (1). Congenital stenosis with absence of tracheal rings has been reported (9). Stenosis or stricture due to trauma, previous surgery, or overinflation of endotracheal tube cuffs is seen more commonly than congenital stenosis in the dog."

Tracheal Collapse - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company!
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The victim is almost always a toy breed dog, with poodles, Yorkshire terriers, and Pomeranians most commonly affected. The disease usually becomes problematic in middle age but can occur at any age. The cartilage defect that leads to the flattened C rings seems to be hereditary.
Many dogs with collapsed tracheas do not show symptoms, however, until a second problem complicates matters. Factors that bring out symptoms might include:
Obesity
Anesthesia involving the placement of an endotracheal tube
Development of kennel cough or other respiratory infection
Increased respiratory irritants in the air (cigarette smoke, dust, etc.)
Heart enlargement (the heart can get so big that it presses on the trachea)
If a secondary factor such as one of those listed above should occur and make a previously incidental collapsed trachea problematic, oftentimes removal of the secondary factor (weight loss program, getting an air filter, etc.) may clear up the symptoms of the collapsed trachea.
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Thank you so much for allowing me to voice my worries and concerns. It never hurts to think outside the box.

rhondah 05-17-2010 03:20 PM

I had Phoebe fixed. She was having a lot of trouble each time she came in heat. My vet suggested having her spayed and I'm glad I did. He found a tumor on her ovaries that was very large. Had I not done that and tried to breed her there was a huge chance I may have lost her during her pregnancy or while giving birth.

Bekgarrett 05-17-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3131824)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you're trying to connect CT with the tubing from being neutered. If that's correct I don't think that I'd bring up any kennel's name in support your theory - without their permission.

This could be confusing because you have listed their kennel name in a thread talking about dogs being neutered/spayed and most established show/exhibitors/breeders only sell their dogs on a spay/neuter contract.

The only reason I listed it was because I wanted to give information found on the web for anyone to see about things that can precipitate a trachea collapse. Everyone can make up their minds as to whether or not to worry about this tube being put down their dogs throat. I realize this poll is about neutering and spaying and I know I digressed to the topic of intubation. From what I understand this is done for neutering, spaying, dental cleaning, and so on.

Have a great day!

shodanusmc 05-17-2010 04:09 PM

Both are fixed. Wife has been trying to FIX me for years, but to no avail!

jazzybee445 05-17-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bekgarrett (Post 3131830)
Thank you so much for allowing me to voice my worries and concerns. It never hurts to think outside the box.

Your Welcome Dear!! anytime!! i feel like if there is anything that anyone has to say about what they have found regarding the surgery and thier Experiance (good or bad) even if it may seem off topic like intubation, they should be able to say it here, where the topic is the surgery. Thank you for posting the information, i personally found it to be very helpful!

jazzybee445 05-17-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3131903)
Both are fixed. Wife has been trying to FIX me for years, but to no avail!


LOL thats funny!

mommadog1 05-17-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3131824)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you're trying to connect CT with the tubing from being neutered. If that's correct I don't think that I'd bring up any kennel's name in support your theory - without their permission.

This could be confusing because you have listed their kennel name in a thread talking about dogs being neutered/spayed and most established show/exhibitors/breeders only sell their dogs on a spay/neuter contract.

So what? Seriously, she can post what she wants. Nobody had a problem when without my permission a certain person on YT not only posted my web site but also copied words from my site and pasted them here on YT.. Again, without my permission. And when I asked it to be removed it was not removed even. So I don't see why she should be chastised for it by another member.

mommadog1 05-17-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3131903)
Both are fixed. Wife has been trying to FIX me for years, but to no avail!

hahahaha...I gave up trying to "fix" my hubby too;):D

cj125 05-17-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3132124)
hahahaha...I gave up trying to "fix" my hubby too;):D


HaHaHa - he must have given up trying to fix you too! :D

cj125 05-17-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3132114)
So what? Seriously, she can post what she wants. Nobody had a problem when without my permission a certain person on YT not only posted my web site but also copied words from my site and pasted them here on YT.. Again, without my permission. And when I asked it to be removed it was not removed even. So I don't see why she should be chastised for it by another member.

So what? I'll tell you so what. The kennel she mentioned (M**nlight) is a very well known reputable breeder who did not state that information for her to post and link it with a "do not spay or neuter" thread on a forum. :confused:

Do any of you know what their preference is? I doubt it. Most of these breeders only let the puppies go WITH a spay/neuter contract --- so why would you insinuate otherwise?

In other words.... you are taking something out of context!!!


cj125 05-17-2010 07:00 PM

I wasn't going to reply to these posts but since you can't let it go....



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Originally Posted by mommadog1 (Post 3129815)
Because you and others do not just give an opinion, you have to put people down and tell them how wrong their choice is.
That is the main problem here, people attacking each other and it happens way to much.
I really don't understand how you don't see that you're doing exactly what you're complaining about. :rolleyes:

You don't "NEED" to keep replying and make things worse.
And just what do you think you're doing?

And as far as finding an answer to pet over population, it's a farce! Yes indeed there are dogs in shelters. If they quit importing the street dogs from other countries it would go WAY down!!

Also, I don't need to do anything about it because I really am not concerned about it.. :eek: omg ya I said it and I mean it! If the AR folks want to do something let them.
You're not concerned because ???? you breed?


The below are OFF TOPIC
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I have other things that are more important to me then having no more dogs in shelters (ps: spaying will not stop it since they bring them in from poor countries.). Like helping homeless children and families in this country. they really need our help but to many people dogs above people.

Children should not be living in cars and on the street, or die from illnesses because they cannot get health care. Such a rich country and yet we have one of the highest rate of homeless people in the world!

I wish more people put as much, or even a little energy and time into humans in need then animals.

I am not saying animals are not worth helping, I am saying people need to come first. As a foster and adoptive parent I have seen more than you could ever imagine, and it is beyond horrific!
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Also, it isn't about keeping a dog intact just for breeding. It is about our rights!! Animals do not have rights, nor should they.
Really? Well it seems that you really don't care too much about dogs/animals which makes me wonder why you're here. Care to share? :D

Anyhow I am done with this topic...
I am going back outside to play with my dogs.


cj125 05-17-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzybee445 (Post 3131931)
Your Welcome Dear!! anytime!! i feel like if there is anything that anyone has to say about what they have found regarding the surgery and thier Experiance (good or bad) even if it may seem off topic like intubation, they should be able to say it here, where the topic is the surgery. Thank you for posting the information, i personally found it to be very helpful!

I agree dear, if you have any material to support your opinion, by all means - post it. Just be careful not to name drop. :D

MaddieBoo 05-17-2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3131869)
Do your homework..something like only 2500 dogs have been imported into this country and that included dogs that were bought for ownership...Overpopulation is not a farce.I personally do not like Cesar Milan but if you can call him an idiot then I guess I am allowed to call you an idiot!!!!! You cannot have it both ways.

I am also sick and tired of people talking about their rights when 5 million animals are destroyed every year and my taxes pay for the other 3 million that go into shelters along with euthanizing the other 5 million. Where are my rights???? This country should be ashamed at what happens in this country but for you to say pet overpopulation is a farce is beyond sane.:mad:

Thank you! I was going to stay out of this thread completely, but the claim that overpopulation is a farce, and that it ISN'T caused by irresponsible breeding...that is just completely ridiculous. Even if that WAS true (which it is absolutely not), it would in no way be a way to support refusal to spay/neuter.

Lucas is neutered and I would do this with any pet I had in the future. No matter what someone thinks or says or tries, accidents do happen, dogs get out or get too close to another unfixed dog and then the vicious cycle of irresponsible breeding continues. JMO.

While I do think it is extreme to impose a law to get pets spayed or neutered, I feel at this point in society, with the heinous results of poor breeding practices, overpopulation and therefore the euthanasia of millions of dogs, it has become the only suggestion I have seen that would make even a small difference. Obviously dogs with conditions and health concerns, and approved breeders etc, would be exempt and therefore I feel it would be appropriate for the condition society is currently in. I don't see any other way :(

Breeze 05-17-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddieBoo (Post 3132224)
Thank you! I was going to stay out of this thread completely, but the claim that overpopulation is a farce, and that it ISN'T caused by irresponsible breeding...that is just completely ridiculous. Even if that WAS true (which it is absolutely not), it would in no way be a way to support refusal to spay/neuter.

Lucas is neutered and I would do this with any pet I had in the future. No matter what someone thinks or says or tries, accidents do happen, dogs get out or get too close to another unfixed dog and then the vicious cycle of irresponsible breeding continues. JMO.

While I do think it is extreme to impose a law to get pets spayed or neutered, I feel at this point in society, with the heinous results of poor breeding practices, overpopulation and therefore the euthanasia of millions of dogs, it has become the only suggestion I have seen that would make even a small difference. Obviously dogs with conditions and health concerns, and approved breeders etc, would be exempt and therefore I feel it would be appropriate for the condition society is currently in. I don't see any other way :(

Your post will most likely be removed since the quoted post has been removed but it so important to say these things. Great post!

Judy in Waco 05-17-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddieBoo (Post 3132224)
Thank you! I was going to stay out of this thread completely, but the claim that overpopulation is a farce, and that it ISN'T caused by irresponsible breeding...that is just completely ridiculous. Even if that WAS true (which it is absolutely not), it would in no way be a way to support refusal to spay/neuter. :(

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