Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 1402295)

I have to agree with you Amber with this observation...Some people stick in our memories for good reasons or bad reasons, Mardelin has always been informative w/o making the person feel stupid for asking or condescending toward the person....Mardelin sticks in my memory for being one of the good ones :thumbup: ....

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1402263)

Just let me interject my feelings here. I do try to temper my words when posting. However, it's very difficult when you see people come on here posting about accidents....or people that haven't done their homework. It does anger me, because they didn't think of the dogs.......yes, to me they come first. To me it's irresponsible pet ownership, but it doesn't stop me from attempting to help.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1402292)

I guess...of course, for all those who "just read" as it has been pointed out in this very thread...they would only read the comments posted, so it really wouldn't do them any good, would it? :( Kind of a no win situation.

Originally Posted by judyeve (Post 1402254)

I've dropped off a lot lately because of a new feeling of negativity on threads that wasn't here when I joined.

I've seen threads being closed, people being bashed indirectly on other threads, etc. (The new batch of crazies who pop on every so often are not so bad - they're even funny and I don't let them bother me.)

What bothers me is the unnecessary nastiness I've seen. I'm finished buying into the excuse that this is an open forum and everybody is entitled to voice their opinions. This is true, however, putting that same opinion as nicely as you can is an adult choice. I don't have to listen to anyone's opinion if I feel they're just out and out nasty about how they state it.

As far as I'm concerned, that excuse is nonsense. The reality is that some people don't want to post here anymore, so, true or not, it's just not working out well. Learn to be nice about what you have to say, or don't say it at all.
In other words, grow up!

I just got a new puppy and haven't really put up too many pictures, nor shared a lot about her and Max. There are some people here who I do not want to share my joy or my business with. I don't need their negative energy in my life.

On the other hand, these people are in the minority. Most YT members are wonderful, amazing people who I care about. I care about your dogs, your families, when someone is sick, when you share your happiness and your sorrows.

I have also learned 90% of what I know about Yorkies from YT. I could not have raised Max so well without the help and support of YT. I certainly couldn't have found Gracie Leigh without the help and advice of YTers.

I'll be back on, but I do not believe that "freedom to state your opinion" crap.
State your opinion to somebody else. I just don't care all that much about it and I don't want negativity in my life.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Catrina (Post 1402311)

i think ppl are concerned about bad breeding on here.. they are just trying to help and from the threads i have read.. it has helped when a newbie comes asking about breeding her 2lber or her.. 8 lber.. ppl have seemed convinced some of them at least to do otherwise..

do u expect ppl to just smile and cheer her on? i think not

Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 1402295)

I have to agree with you Amber with this observation...Some people stick in our memories for good reasons or bad reasons, Mardelin has always been informative w/o making the person feel stupid for asking or condescending toward the person....Mardelin sticks in my memory for being one of the good ones :thumbup: ....

Originally Posted by judyeve (Post 1402254)

I've dropped off a lot lately because of a new feeling of negativity on threads that wasn't here when I joined.

I've seen threads being closed, people being bashed indirectly on other threads, etc. (The new batch of crazies who pop on every so often are not so bad - they're even funny and I don't let them bother me.)

What bothers me is the unnecessary nastiness I've seen. I'm finished buying into the excuse that this is an open forum and everybody is entitled to voice their opinions. This is true, however, putting that same opinion as nicely as you can is an adult choice. I don't have to listen to anyone's opinion if I feel they're just out and out nasty about how they state it.

As far as I'm concerned, that excuse is nonsense. The reality is that some people don't want to post here anymore, so, true or not, it's just not working out well. Learn to be nice about what you have to say, or don't say it at all.
In other words, grow up!

I just got a new puppy and haven't really put up too many pictures, nor shared a lot about her and Max. There are some people here who I do not want to share my joy or my business with. I don't need their negative energy in my life.

On the other hand, these people are in the minority. Most YT members are wonderful, amazing people who I care about. I care about your dogs, your families, when someone is sick, when you share your happiness and your sorrows.

I have also learned 90% of what I know about Yorkies from YT. I could not have raised Max so well without the help and support of YT. I certainly couldn't have found Gracie Leigh without the help and advice of YTers.

I'll be back on, but I do not believe that "freedom to state your opinion" crap.
State your opinion to somebody else. I just don't care all that much about it and I don't want negativity in my life.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 1402332)

I guess I will give my two cents here. This forum seems so nice and mild to me compared to the other ones online. I wouldn't want to be caught in the breeder's section as a newbie having bred a 3 pound female though. I really do think that the breeders here try to be nice though. Sometimes it looks like it gets frustrating when they need answers to questions and the person that bred their dog doesn't have them or the person is just not listening. So the breeders here do put up with a lot.

There is one major problem I see here lately. There was a certain person banned a couple months ago. Not every male newbie who comes on this site is that person. I think newbies may be scared away by people saying they are that person. If you think it is that person it should be reported to admin and not put in the thread... Just my opinion

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1402329)

Hey all, thanks. It's nice to be viewed that way.....but, remember I'm very human and do have a temper and bad days.......

I suppose there are those that haven't had the training and experts to turn to that some of us have had. But, if you're posting on an open forum such as YT, you're going to get different opinions, some nice and not so nice. And in the words of Yorkie Rose: If you want your ear tickled, don't ask the question.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1402284)

But unfortunately, that IS the case, to an extent.(And pretty significant part of what this country was founded on...regardless to what anyone's opinion is.) Maybe not nice, or ethical, or preferred, but fact, nevertheless.:) "Freedom of Speach" (and opinion) is 'all the time', not just when it's 'what you want to hear.' :(

Originally Posted by Catrina (Post 1402311)

i think ppl are concerned about bad breeding on here.. they are just trying to help and from the threads i have read.. it has helped when a newbie comes asking about breeding his/her 2lber or her.. 8 lber.. ppl have seemed convinced some of them at least to do otherwise..

do u expect ppl to just smile and cheer them on when we all know that person could potentially kill his/her yorkie? i think not

Originally Posted by jp4m2 (Post 1402348)

I think I know the thread your talking about, I was stunned when that ASSumtion was made also....

Originally Posted by judyeve (Post 1402354)

Freedom of speech does not include the right to be nasty. Like you said , "that IS the case, to an extent."

Yes, say what you feel needs to be said....but learn to say it in a way that will be heard. (I'm not talking about you when I use the word "you." I don't think your posts are nasty).

If you post something and are told, in as tactful a way as possible, something you don't want to hear, it is productive. You might not like it, but you might think about it later. Most people, on the other hand, respond to nastiness with anger and shut down. Nothing is learned, and nobody is helped.

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc (Post 1402368)

As someone mentioned, if someone(s) think Yorkie Talk is bad, they just visit some other forums.. :eek:

I hope I don't sound to rude by saying this but some people are just overly sensitive. It's the internet- not real life.. nothing to lose sleep over. :)

ETA: Also, because it's the internet, I think sometimes people over read things or just think someone is being rude when they aren't. How is it possibly to always know what someones means by what they have typed?

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc (Post 1402368)

As someone mentioned, if someone(s) think Yorkie Talk is bad, they just visit some other forums.. :eek:

I hope I don't sound to rude by saying this but some people are just overly sensitive. It's the internet- not real life.. nothing to lose sleep over. :)

ETA: Also, because it's the internet, I think sometimes people over read things or just think someone is being rude when they aren't. How is it possibly to always know what someones means by what they have typed?

Originally Posted by judyeve (Post 1402354)

Freedom of speech does not include the right to be nasty. Like you said , "that IS the case, to an extent."

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc (Post 1402368)

As someone mentioned, if someone(s) think Yorkie Talk is bad, they just visit some other forums.. :eek:

I hope I don't sound to rude by saying this but some people are just overly sensitive. It's the internet- not real life.. nothing to lose sleep over. :)

ETA: Also, because it's the internet, I think sometimes people over read things or just think someone is being rude when they aren't. How is it possibly to always know what someones means by what they have typed?

Originally Posted by Tillys_mom (Post 1402401)

I hope nobody thinks of me when they say exclamation mark. I tend to use them all the time. I don't mean any harm by them, I just get overly excited sometimes. Instead of saying "Cute dog." Often times I will say "Cute dog!!!" I hope nobody thought I was yelling at them. I would feel terrible.

Originally Posted by Tillys_mom (Post 1402401)

I hope nobody thinks of me when they say exclamation mark. I tend to use them all the time. I don't mean any harm by them, I just get overly excited sometimes. Instead of saying "Cute dog." Often times I will say "Cute dog!!!" I hope nobody thought I was yelling at them. I would feel terrible.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1402393)

Yes, is DOES include that right, OFF this forum....just not here on YT because Admin/rules won't allow it...which is a very GOOD thing!:thumbup:

Yes, I do agree things are taken better if delivered in a tactful manner. It took me a long time to understand that, but I'm slowly coming around.:p

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1402407)

Well Misty as I told you the other night....you have become very eloquent in projecting your opinions.

I know from personal experience how difficult it is for me. So, many times I've wanted to come through the screen and grab someone by the throat. How many times someone has posted their baby has been vomitting and has had dirreah for 2 days and all I've wanted to do is scream at them.....You, $%%%% what are you doing posting, get that baby to the Vet.

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1402405)

I don't think anyone has a problem with that :p I'm all the time saying things with exclamation points out of excitement and in a positive way. Such as "You're dog is so cute!!!" or "I LOVE this dress!!!". I think what people don't like are negative comments with exclamation points such as "You are stupid!!!" or "What are you talking about?!?!?!!!!"

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1402412)

LOL...picturing you comeing through the computer screen and grabbing someone...seriously made me laugh out loud.